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   The Post tracked all homicides in D.C. between 2000 and 2011 to learn what happened to each case. It found that fewer than a third of the homicides have led to a conviction for murder or manslaughter

13 Nov 2012 12:15 AM   |   4082 clicks   |   Washington Post
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Bontesla     
About 1/3rd resulted in conviction?
I'm not surprised.
Disappointed but not surprised.

12 Nov 2012 08:28 PM
Silly Jesus     
Meanwhile...

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Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

12 Nov 2012 08:37 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP


What?

12 Nov 2012 08:39 PM
cman    [TotalFark]  
Why?

12 Nov 2012 08:41 PM
SilentStrider    [TotalFark]  
Hate tomsay it, but it doesn't surprise me. The workload of most prosecutorss just doesn't allow for prosecuting everyone thats arrested. So i'm sure a fair amount of those, where the person was caught, they pled out.

12 Nov 2012 08:44 PM
make me some tea    [TotalFark]  
Does that include plea deals?

12 Nov 2012 08:49 PM
Silly Jesus     
Where?

12 Nov 2012 08:51 PM
make me some tea    [TotalFark]  
Who?

12 Nov 2012 08:53 PM
Silly Jesus     
How?

12 Nov 2012 08:54 PM
unyon    [TotalFark]  
Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.

12 Nov 2012 08:54 PM
Silly Jesus     

unyon: Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.


Demographics, how do they work?

12 Nov 2012 08:57 PM
BSABSVR     

SilentStrider: Hate tomsay it, but it doesn't surprise me. The workload of most prosecutorss just doesn't allow for prosecuting everyone thats arrested. So i'm sure a fair amount of those, where the person was caught, they pled out.


It also boils down to being able to make a case. I would bet that the police know who committed 75%+ of those murders, but there's just not enough proof to take to the prosecutors..

12 Nov 2012 09:02 PM
SilentStrider    [TotalFark]  

BSABSVR: SilentStrider: Hate tomsay it, but it doesn't surprise me. The workload of most prosecutorss just doesn't allow for prosecuting everyone thats arrested. So i'm sure a fair amount of those, where the person was caught, they pled out.

It also boils down to being able to make a case. I would bet that the police know who committed 75%+ of those murders, but there's just not enough proof to take to the prosecutors..


Also a reasonable possibility.

12 Nov 2012 09:03 PM
BSABSVR     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?


He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

12 Nov 2012 09:03 PM
Silly Jesus     

BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".


She won't understand that either.

12 Nov 2012 09:05 PM
GAT_00     
I think that's actually higher than for most crimes.

12 Nov 2012 09:07 PM
Bontesla     

BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".


Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

12 Nov 2012 09:11 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.


He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)

12 Nov 2012 09:13 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.


Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines. ;)

12 Nov 2012 09:15 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.

He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)


Well it confused you to start with, at least.

12 Nov 2012 09:16 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)


I fixed it for you! :)

12 Nov 2012 09:23 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.

He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)

Well it confused you to start with, at least.


Well, you have to admit, there was a substantial amount of derp in the point you almost articulated.

12 Nov 2012 09:24 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)

I fixed it for you! :)


Aaaaand socioeconomic status is intertwined with socially classified racial lines. It's all connected.

12 Nov 2012 09:28 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.

He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)

Well it confused you to start with, at least.

Well, you have to admit, there was a substantial amount of derp in the point you almost articulated.


Meh, I wouldn't say substantial.

I just find it humorous that they go march in Sanford when one kid is killed by a "white" guy yet 94% of the deaths in D.C. are black and not a peep from them. Just odd how they choose their outrage.

12 Nov 2012 09:29 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)

I fixed it for you! :)

Aaaaand socioeconomic status is intertwined with socially classified racial lines. It's all connected.


www.instructables.comView Full Size

12 Nov 2012 09:29 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)

I fixed it for you! :)

Aaaaand socioeconomic status is intertwined with socially classified racial lines. It's all connected.

[www.instructables.com image 768x1024]


WTF?

12 Nov 2012 09:31 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.

He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)

Well it confused you to start with, at least.

Well, you have to admit, there was a substantial amount of derp in the point you almost articulated.

Meh, I wouldn't say substantial.

I just find it humorous that they go march in Sanford when one kid is killed by a "white" guy yet 94% of the deaths in D.C. are black and not a peep from them. Just odd how they choose their outrage.


Except that's not really what happened.

The outrage didn't stem from Martin's death as much as it stemmed from what appeared to be an unwillingness to investigate given the amount of conflicting information.

While you may argue that the police met their minimum duty as required by Florida law - certainly you can understand how that minimum effort could come across as inadequate. Especially given American history in which police have often neglected to properly investigate cases involving a young black male.

That's the thing with you - you really dislike nuance. You prefer to generalize to the extent that events lose specific, distinctive details that are essential to understanding the opposing argument.

12 Nov 2012 09:36 PM
Bontesla     

Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)

I fixed it for you! :)

Aaaaand socioeconomic status is intertwined with socially classified racial lines. It's all connected.

[www.instructables.com image 768x1024]

WTF?


It was the very first thing that came to mind when you used "intertwined" and "it's all connected" in the same thought.

12 Nov 2012 09:37 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

She won't understand that either.

He says - as if he had the cognitive awareness to notice ;)

Well it confused you to start with, at least.

Well, you have to admit, there was a substantial amount of derp in the point you almost articulated.

Meh, I wouldn't say substantial.

I just find it humorous that they go march in Sanford when one kid is killed by a "white" guy yet 94% of the deaths in D.C. are black and not a peep from them. Just odd how they choose their outrage.

Except that's not really what happened.

The outrage didn't stem from Martin's death as much as it stemmed from what appeared to be an unwillingness to investigate given the amount of conflicting information.

While you may argue that the police met their minimum duty as required by Florida law - certainly you can understand how that minimum effort could come across as inadequate. Especially given American history in which police have often neglected to properly investigate cases involving a young black male.

That's the thing with you - you really dislike nuance. You prefer to generalize to the extent that events lose specific, distinctive details that are essential to understanding the opposing argument.


ZIMMERMAN THREAD!!! DRINK!!!!

12 Nov 2012 09:41 PM
Silly Jesus     

Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Bontesla: BSABSVR: Bontesla: Silly Jesus: Meanwhile...

[www.trbimg.com image 600x384]
Al, Jesse and Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP

What?

He got sick of being pretend obtuse, so he decided to go full "racial awareness".

Yeah. He never fully grasped that human race variation was a social classification and not a biological one.

Sure I did. And you never grasped that culture tends to differ along those socially classified racial lines socioeconomic status. ;)

I fixed it for you! :)

Aaaaand socioeconomic status is intertwined with socially classified racial lines. It's all connected.

[www.instructables.com image 768x1024]

WTF?

It was the very first thing that came to mind when you used "intertwined" and "it's all connected" in the same thought.


Oh.

12 Nov 2012 09:42 PM
make me some tea    [TotalFark]  

Bontesla: That's the thing with you - you really dislike nuance. You prefer to generalize to the extent that events lose specific, distinctive details that are essential to understanding the opposing argument.


The term is "intellectually lazy".

12 Nov 2012 09:44 PM
Silly Jesus     

make me some tea: Bontesla: That's the thing with you - you really dislike nuance. You prefer to generalize to the extent that events lose specific, distinctive details that are essential to understanding the opposing argument.

The term is "intellectually lazy".


Unless I just don't accept her premises...

12 Nov 2012 09:45 PM
vartian    [TotalFark]  
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12 Nov 2012 09:47 PM
Silly Jesus     

vartian: [oi46.tinypic.com image 500x707]


LULZ. That one is a good one.

12 Nov 2012 09:55 PM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  
Heck 50% arrest rate for murder is fantastic. Most murders never result in a conviction.

12 Nov 2012 10:11 PM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  

SilentStrider: Hate tomsay it, but it doesn't surprise me. The workload of most prosecutorss just doesn't allow for prosecuting everyone thats arrested. So i'm sure a fair amount of those, where the person was caught, they pled out.


That would be a conviction.

12 Nov 2012 10:12 PM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  

unyon: Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.


There have only been 2 within 25 miles of me so far today. Come to Florida some time.

One was a murder suicide, and the other was some teenager walking to school.

12 Nov 2012 10:14 PM
cman    [TotalFark]  

feckingmorons: Heck 50% arrest rate for murder is fantastic. Most murders never result in a conviction.


Maine has ~90% clearance rate on murder cases. Jealous?

12 Nov 2012 10:18 PM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  

cman: feckingmorons: Heck 50% arrest rate for murder is fantastic. Most murders never result in a conviction.

Maine has ~90% clearance rate on murder cases. Jealous?



Yep.

I don't know what the local one is. Probably about the national average.

12 Nov 2012 10:33 PM
CruiserTwelve    [TotalFark]  
Incidences of murder witnesses refusing to cooperate with the police are enormous. Either fear of retaliation, or some absurd feeling of racial allegiance is usually the reason. As a result, it's become almost impossible to solve many murders and difficult to prosecute those cases that are solved. The "stop snitching" movement has succeeded in keeping many violent criminals on the street.

12 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
Ambivalence    [TotalFark]  

Silly Jesus: unyon: Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.

Demographics, how do they work?


And just what are you implying there, exactly?

12 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
BSABSVR     

vartian:


That reminds me, has a poster who rhymes with Crick-Louse been around at all in the past 7 days?

12 Nov 2012 10:51 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake     

unyon: Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.


And I'm to move to D.C. at the end of this month for a new job. Lucky me.

12 Nov 2012 10:52 PM
vartian    [TotalFark]  

BSABSVR: vartian:

That reminds me, has a poster who rhymes with Crick-Louse been around at all in the past 7 days?


Nope. :)

12 Nov 2012 10:54 PM
vartian    [TotalFark]  

I_Love_Cheesecake: unyon: Wow. 10x the homicide rate of my similarly sized Canadian city. I have trouble getting my head around that.

And I'm to move to D.C. at the end of this month for a new job. Lucky me.


I've lived here for nearly a decade and a half, in all parts of the city, usually carrying around around 5k worth of video equipment. You'll be fine. :)

12 Nov 2012 10:55 PM
nmrsnr    [TotalFark]  

I_Love_Cheesecake: And I'm to move to D.C. at the end of this month for a new job. Lucky me.


Unless it's to Southeast D.C. and involves gangs and/or drugs, you'll be fine.

12 Nov 2012 11:01 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake     

vartian: I've lived here for nearly a decade and a half, in all parts of the city, usually carrying around around 5k worth of video equipment. You'll be fine. :)


nmrsnr: Unless it's to Southeast D.C. and involves gangs and/or drugs, you'll be fine.


I wasn't really serious. I have no idea yet where I'll live, though - one of my future co-workers has suggested Mt Pleasant, U Street or Adams Morgan.

12 Nov 2012 11:06 PM
nmrsnr    [TotalFark]  

I_Love_Cheesecake: I have no idea yet where I'll live, though - one of my future co-workers has suggested Mt Pleasant, U Street or Adams Morgan.


Mt. Pleasant is quiet, but a little out of the way, I'd stay away from Adams Morgan if I could, just because I hate the Red Line and drunken college students.

12 Nov 2012 11:31 PM
Britney Spear's Speculum     
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13 Nov 2012 12:18 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  
Used to love Friday nights at Tracks in SE. Three dance floors. A beach volleyball court. A proper cloak. And cheap drinks.

Good times. Good times.

13 Nov 2012 12:19 AM
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