Many years ago, on a planet much like this one, someone who may or may not fit my description took many more than that. They were empty, but they were there, for me to make fermenters out of.
I spared those poor vessels the fate of being filled with more crap.

Um, I mean, that other person might have done it and thats why they did it.

Ebay, craigslist - heck, even aluminum scrap value. This isn't really that hard to understand.

at 30 bucks a pop thats about $300.

Maybe hes just a really big homebrewer?

shark hunters?

In college we used to steal empty kegs left on patios, etc to get the security deposit when we returned them. I think it was 40 to 50 per barrel.

alienated: Many years ago, on a planet much like this one, someone who may or may not fit my description took many more than that. They were empty, but they were there, for me to make fermenters out of.
I spared those poor vessels the fate of being filled with more crap.

Um, I mean, that other person might have done it and thats why they did it.

I agree a "friend" of mine (yeah, that's it) has a couple of A-B keggles and "he" feels they've been spared from a life of indignity.

Actually ten kegs would be even.

I grew up in PA and we used to swipe 'em all the time. I think the security deposit was 10 bucks, so if you grabbed two or three that was a couple of cases of beer for free. Then they started requiring a receipt to get the deposit back, for some reason.

Drew calls 10 full kegs " a six pack".

You would think that they would have noticed how light the kegs were and realized that they were empty. Unless they thought that they were stealing light beer.

Keep an eye out for shifty swarthy skinned olive pickers. They are currently packing those kegs with AmFO

KEG BOWLING!

No one's done this?
/Lame-o's

10 empty kegs at one time is something odd


10 sounds even to me.


In decimal and in binary.

It's odd to most people, not to a meth head though.

/scrap metal
//or deposit money......

Is not impressed

He can't go down with ten barrels on him...not with ten barrels he can't.

leboff: at 30 bucks a pop thats about $300.

Righteous bucks.

My vote's for home brewer. Ten kegs would be quite useful, especially for a group of home brewers.

Cooperage is one of the biggest capital expences a brewery puts out. They cost us some $120 a pop new, 80 used, and thats getting them in bulk. The deposit doesn't cover replacement costs, and stainless goes for around $60 on the scrap market.
We are constantly adding new stock to fuel demand and replace lost ones.

We tried out the new ABS ones, but they have high rate of failure.

Electric_Banana: I grew up in PA and we used to swipe 'em all the time. I think the security deposit was 10 bucks, so if you grabbed two or three that was a couple of cases of beer for free. Then they started requiring a receipt to get the deposit back, for some reason.

I hope not. I'm picking up a half keg on Friday, and I lost my receipt from the last keg.

I came

Not if you're trying to build a raft to get off this godforsaken island.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLTTTT!!!! !

Not odd at all for a homebrewer. I have six of the blighters.

Someone is making one hell of a still.

Boxcutta -- did you mean WIIILLLSSSONNN ?

Ten kegs?

Amateur.

Kegs do make for a pretty nice MLT, HLT, and BK.

lenfromak: My vote's for home brewer. Ten kegs would be quite useful, especially for a group of home brewers.

my bet would be on tin mining tweakers. crushed, cut up, and sold for scrap. to a unscrupulous scrap yard that doesn't care about accepting stolen property.

because I simply can't see a group of honest, Hardworking homebrewers, that are always above reproach, willfully steal property from a brewery and destroy it.

either scrapped or they plan to try and return them somewhere...

Homebrewers use 5 gallon Pepsi ball lock kegs or Coke pin lock kegs.

I know, I have 2 pepsi kegs in my chest freezer & need 2 more.

vegasj: either scrapped or they plan to try and return them somewhere...

Homebrewers use 5 gallon Pepsi ball lock kegs or Coke pin lock kegs.

I know, I have 2 pepsi kegs in my chest freezer & need 2 more.

Corny kegs are used for despencing home brew, I'm talking about folks turning HB kegs into brewing vessels, 15 gal. cooking pots, etc, de-gas the keg, chop the top off of it, so a 12" pot lid fits over top. etc.

these kegs were stolen to be sold to a scrap yard.

we had a big problem with that here in town until we threatened all the scrap yards with legal action if any of our kegs showed up there. then we made the deal with them that if any keg did show up to pay the person dropping off the deposit, and we would reimburse them. It turned out that if we just threatend to sue and impress them if they accepted the kegs, they would just be dumped by the thieves. this way, we actually get them back..

as said, each one of those kegs represents a $120 investment from the brewery. and each time we loose a keg to the nether, be it someone stealing it and scrapping it like this, some collage kid turning the keg into furniture, or somebody holding on to it to save deposit costs on the next one, we don't have that keg available to clean and refill and put back out into circulation. so it must be replaced.

so no offense to the folks trying to save $30, but you are costing me $120.

Cerebral Knievel: vegasj: either scrapped or they plan to try and return them somewhere...

Homebrewers use 5 gallon Pepsi ball lock kegs or Coke pin lock kegs.

I know, I have 2 pepsi kegs in my chest freezer & need 2 more.

Corny kegs are used for despencing home brew, I'm talking about folks turning HB kegs into brewing vessels, 15 gal. cooking pots, etc, de-gas the keg, chop the top off of it, so a 12" pot lid fits over top. etc.

these kegs were stolen to be sold to a scrap yard.

we had a big problem with that here in town until we threatened all the scrap yards with legal action if any of our kegs showed up there. then we made the deal with them that if any keg did show up to pay the person dropping off the deposit, and we would reimburse them. It turned out that if we just threatend to sue and impress them if they accepted the kegs, they would just be dumped by the thieves. this way, we actually get them back..

as said, each one of those kegs represents a $120 investment from the brewery. and each time we loose a keg to the nether, be it someone stealing it and scrapping it like this, some collage kid turning the keg into furniture, or somebody holding on to it to save deposit costs on the next one, we don't have that keg available to clean and refill and put back out into circulation. so it must be replaced.

so no offense to the folks trying to save $30, but you are costing me $120.

Actually costing the Brewery, not you...

OlderGuy:
Actually costing the Brewery, not you...

semantics TIm, and considering I work for the brewery, and the breweries bottom line effects raises and bonuses, yes, it effects the brewery, and in the long term.. me. as the guy who works in the brewery.

or are your people you work for so rich that this is not a consideration for you to worry about?

Cerebral Knievel: OlderGuy:
Actually costing the Brewery, not you...

semantics TIm, and considering I work for the brewery, and the breweries bottom line effects raises and bonuses, yes, it effects the brewery, and in the long term.. me. as the guy who works in the brewery.

or are your people you work for so rich that this is not a consideration for you to worry about?

Not semantics..you are inferring that it is your brewery... which it is not...you work there, like I did.. I was maintainance, you are utility.. the cost of the kegs do not affect your pay.. and since when have bonuses been paid? I know of only 4 bonuses.. the fat twins and two other folks in the Pub.. over three years ago... any type of theft affects the ability to grow.. in any business.. cooperage loss is going to happen: breweries plan for that.. 'my people' plan on it as well.. and we are looking at RFID chipping and scanning.. others are also...

OlderGuy: Cerebral Knievel: OlderGuy:
Actually costing the Brewery, not you...

semantics TIm, and considering I work for the brewery, and the breweries bottom line effects raises and bonuses, yes, it effects the brewery, and in the long term.. me. as the guy who works in the brewery.

or are your people you work for so rich that this is not a consideration for you to worry about?

Not semantics..you are inferring that it is your brewery... which it is not...you work there, like I did.. I was maintainance, you are utility.. the cost of the kegs do not affect your pay.. and since when have bonuses been paid? I know of only 4 bonuses.. the fat twins and two other folks in the Pub.. over three years ago... any type of theft affects the ability to grow.. in any business.. cooperage loss is going to happen: breweries plan for that.. 'my people' plan on it as well.. and we are looking at RFID chipping and scanning.. others are also...

well, Im not going to get into an argument on past operations, Yes, I work there, I've worked there a very long time, I believe in the company and the product we make, I go out of my way to make sure people know that I work for the company, that I am a brewer/cellarman I have NEVER INFERRED that I own the place. I take ownership of the product, it is the fruits of my labor. Do I own the place as in the guy who started up? or a capital investor? a share holder?

No..

but the people who know me, know of me, KNOW that I am passionate about what I do and that my blood, sweat and tears go into every last keg, bottle and what not that comes out of there. yes I OWN what I do, how I do it, and who I do it for.

I'm sorry if you can't wrap your mind around this ENTIRE, almost SOCIALIST NOTION, But I'm happy for YOU that can disassociate yourself from your job so much that it's meaningless to you.

so yes, if some ass hole steals a keg from the brewery, they've stolen from ME, John, Alex, Brian, Smitty, Lee, Mark, our families and every person we employ.

Now, I kindly ask you drop this GOTCHA! crap with me, understand my work ethic and philosophy, and if you have any other issues regarding pay, bonuses and all that crap, then you take it up with Tom, Dave, or Rick and not with me.

as for RFID chipping kegs? its good for internal tracking, inventory control, and shipping, but they will not track a wild keg. you need GPS for that. which.... incidentally has yielded hilarious results when breweries have logged in to find their kegs.