Holy crap.
That's pretty great.

Good.

as the current cubmaster of my son's pack, I say "good" as well.

People shouldn't give to the Boy Scouts because they covered up thousands of cases of their people raping children.

Even if they reverse their bigoted policies, they'll still be an organization that covered up child rape.

Aarontology: People shouldn't give to the Boy Scouts because they covered up thousands of cases of their people raping children.

Even if they reverse their bigoted policies, they'll still be an organization that covered up child rape.

How would you compare this to the Penn State thing?

/ Why do I feel like I'm trolling with that question?
// Not trolling.

Barfmaker: How would you compare this to the Penn State thing?

Scope. The Boy Scouts had many, many, many more victims.

All while claiming to be a moral organization.

I read about Intel doing this a couple of days ago in my local newspaper. Good on them and good on UPS too.

Headline is so-so. There is a bit of snark, but I aint feeling it here.

/BTW, awesome for UPS and Intel doing this

Time to petition Obama to resign his post as honorary president of the BSA. What's he have to lose?

Aarontology: Barfmaker: How would you compare this to the Penn State thing?

Scope. The Boy Scouts had many, many, many more victims.

All while claiming to be a moral organization.

They were moral. Morality means public adherence to rules. What they weren't was honorable.

Good on them. Loving folks and caring isn't immoral.

The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

What do you expect from the author of "Scouting for boys?"

Matthew Keene: I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

Did you enjoy yourself?

schoolbread: Did you enjoy yourself?

Most certainly did.

kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

So this is what things have come to. An organization stands up for it's longstanding beliefs and is immediately shouted down and ostracized by the PC crowd. Fark UPS- they suck anyway.

dinwv: So this is what things have come to. An organization stands up for it's longstanding beliefs and is immediately shouted down and ostracized by the PC crowd. Fark UPS- they suck anyway.

Handy hint: Freedom of speech does not protect you from other people having an opinion on what you say, and acting on it.

Now, if I could just get UPS to deliver my package on time and unbroken.

/shiat, nevermind, I forgot this isn't Rainbowland

Yes, good on them. The anti-gay policies of scout leadership aren't morally straight. Neither is covering up child abuse. It's nice to see some of their funders calling them out on this.

That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

They really are pathetic.

dinwv: So this is what things have come to. An organization stands up for it's longstanding beliefs and is immediately shouted down and ostracized by the PC crowd. Fark UPS- they suck anyway.

If, by immediately, you mean over the coarse of 100+ years, and if, by ostracized, you mean companies and people decide to stop giving them free money until stop acting like bigoted assholes, then I completely agree with everything you just said.

It's really sad to see BSA involved in such deplorable things. I was a boyscout. Scouting taught me a lot. Not just about wilderness survival, but also about safety and preparedness. I built a lot of character in the scouts and learned a lot of things that still help me today. It's sad to see them bring so much scorn upon themselves.

Hunter_Worthington: That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

They really are pathetic.

0.5/10, although "professional homosexuals" is kind of catchy.

Good. This is the same reason I dont give to United Way.

Bigots can go find another way of financing their organizations.

Matthew Keene: schoolbread: Did you enjoy yourself?

Most certainly did.

Well... this thread took an unexpected turn...

Matthew Keene: I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

dinwv: So this is what things have come to. An organization stands up for it's longstanding beliefs and is immediately shouted down and ostracized by the PC crowd. Fark UPS- they suck anyway.

I've never understood the appeal to tradition.

Matthew Keene




I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

Were you the pivot man

Goodfella
BSOA


Good. This is the same reason I dont give to United Way.

Bigots can go find another way of financing their organizations.

Ironic since I don't give to the United Way either because some of their chapters don't donate to the BSOA.

H31N0US: Hunter_Worthington: That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

They really are pathetic.

0.5/10, although "professional homosexuals" is kind of catchy.

Wonder if they are anything like executive transvestites

cman: Headline is so-so. There is a bit of snark, but I aint feeling it here.

/BTW, awesome for UPS and Intel doing this

Agreed.
/subby
//was out of ideas

The future is coming. You can't stop it. It isn't going to be "conservative", and it isn't going to be white, and it isn't going to be "Christian".
Deal with it.

one small post for man: H31N0US: Hunter_Worthington: That's awfully short sighted of them. Nothing says grind a political axe like burying it in the backs of the nation's youth.

Intel and UPS should be proudly supporting the Boy Scouts instead of making short sighted, spineless decisions like giving into the bullying of the professional homosexuals, whose only accomplishment is trying to destroy the achievements of others.

They really are pathetic.

0.5/10, although "professional homosexuals" is kind of catchy.

Wonder if they are anything like executive transvestites

I think it's a licensed title, like Certified Public Bisexual.

orbister: kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

It's no coincidence that our favorite gay-bashing religious group has basically infiltrated and taken over most of the upper level scouting positions on the west coast as they are willing to throw lots of money behind it.

stolen from elsewhere:

"Mormons participate in Boy Scouts at a very high rate. While Mormons only make up 2% of the total US population, they account for nearly 20% of all Scouts. The Mormons even have their own specialized division of scouting, LDS Scouting and, until recently, a student could major in Scouting leadership at Mormon-based university, Brigham Young.

It seems the Mormons aren't afraid of throwing their weight around on issues they are concerned with and are on record as saying if the Boy Scouts of America is forced to accept gays as scoutmasters, the LDS Church will withdraw from the organization and take more than 400,000 Scouts with it."

Heck, they even have "eagle scout factories" where they pretty much ensure the kids get their eagle scouts handing them pre-packaged projects (which often tend to be building something the church wants).

The Scouts are going to find out what brown can do for them

Sorry Mods...

I'll try again..

Penn and Tellers Bullpoopy: How the Boy Scouts have been hijacked by the mormon church and began discriminating. 

Buffalo77: Goodfella
BSOA


Good. This is the same reason I dont give to United Way.

Bigots can go find another way of financing their organizations.

Ironic since I don't give to the United Way either because some of their chapters don't donate to the BSOA.

Bigot doesn't mean what you thinks it means, bigot. And hey, another gathering of the regular Fark pedos.

Yet another case of companies caving because of outside pressure, its pathetic that assholes use this tactic to shame and bully companies into doing what they say.

Once you look at all the teachers who are in their 30s-40s trying or farking 12-15 year old boys you can see why parents would have issues with gay men camping alone with their boys.

Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.A
In short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

Goodfella: Good. This is the same reason I dont give to United Way.

Bigots can go find another way of financing their organizations.



Raises hoof.

I wonder if he is trying to boycott Chick-fil-a too, because that seemed to work as planned.

Teaching kids to be perverts is heroic.

The_Homeless_Guy: orbister: kmmontandon: The Scouts' anti-gay stance is fairly ironic considering the rumors surrounding Baden-Powell's "friendship" with a close male friend.

Might I just point out that homophobia in Scouting is an american thing? The (original) Scout Association in the UK is completely gay-friendly. Here's what they say: The Scout Association has an equal opportunities policy, and welcomes members regardless of their sexual orientation or gender.

If you follow the link you'll find fact sheets encouraging gay scouts and gay scout leaders. Note to any BSA defenders: the skies haven't fallen in and Scouting remains very popular in the UK.

It's no coincidence that our favorite gay-bashing religious group has basically infiltrated and taken over most of the upper level scouting positions on the west coast as they are willing to throw lots of money behind it.

stolen from elsewhere:

"Mormons participate in Boy Scouts at a very high rate. While Mormons only make up 2% of the total US population, they account for nearly 20% of all Scouts. The Mormons even have their own specialized division of scouting, LDS Scouting and, until recently, a student could major in Scouting leadership at Mormon-based university, Brigham Young.

It seems the Mormons aren't afraid of throwing their weight around on issues they are concerned with and are on record as saying if the Boy Scouts of America is forced to accept gays as scoutmasters, the LDS Church will withdraw from the organization and take more than 400,000 Scouts with it."

Heck, they even have "eagle scout factories" where they pretty much ensure the kids get their eagle scouts handing them pre-packaged projects (which often tend to be building something the church wants).

Yep. I have dealt with a number of LDS units and they have made Scouting the de facto youth group for the religion.

Stinkyy: Teaching kids to be perverts is heroic.

Hurrr Durr.

MagicMissile: Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.A
In short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

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Go back and read the Elmo thread, at least two dozen Farkers were there arguing why it was ok for them to rape children. All of them need to be on a "stay far far away from" list. Link One of them actually said "Sexual interest in pubescent children is not pedophilia". Fark needs to bring in some adult mods, perhaps some associated with that ABC show.

Yeah let's show those 10 year old kids not to mess us....grumble..grumble..hurrahump.

Hey ! I didn't get a hurrahump out of this guy.

MagicMissile: Its supposed to be an organization for young boys... I don't understand societies fascination with wanting to read see and hear about homosexual relationships going on in the Boy Scouts. Its like some kind of pedophiles fantasy that has spread through the politically correct zombie landscape known as the U.S.A
In short, our country has gone to hell in a hand basket and there is no saving it at this stage of retardation.

Man, the trolls in this thread just aren't working very hard. Even the grammatical errors are grade school stuff.

Matthew Keene: I participated in my first circle jerk in scouts. Not kidding.

Okay so I'll ask what everyone else is thinking but afraid to ask... did the leader participate?

I have mixed feeling about this,,, I am a very strong advocate of Gay rights (I have many friends and several relatives who are gay and see all the bullshiat that they have to put up with). But having a son who is in Scouts I always wondered how I would handle this. He is almost 12 and he knows what someone being gay means, but I would have really hated to have to explain it to him when he was too much younger because his leader had brought his boyfriend to a meeting or on a camping trip (like a lot of leaders whose wives are involved at the cub scout level.)

That being said, I was very hesitant to even allow him to be a Scout in the first place, because of their discrimination policies and the horror stories, but his father (my EX) insisted and had a very long talk with him about what to do IF...
and I did my part explaining to him about some "Christians" who are not very Christ-like in their thoughts or actions. I now know I made the right decision because I have watched my son growing into a very responsible, courageous and caring young man through his involvement.

As far as companies withdrawing their funding... Bravo to them for standing up for their beliefs (and what the majority of the country believes).

/prepared for the hypocrite comments
// and those about my precious "snowflake"