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   Buckingham Palace website FAQ announces that when Prince Charles becomes king, Camilla will not be referred to as the Queen. However, he still can call her "My trusty steed"

14 Nov 2012 11:26 AM   |   4190 clicks   |   USA Today
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RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  
How is this surprising? Did everyone forget this guy?
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14 Nov 2012 09:56 AM
basemetal    [TotalFark]  

RexTalionis: How is this surprising? Did everyone forget this guy?
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Can it!

14 Nov 2012 10:17 AM
PhiloeBedoe    [TotalFark]  
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14 Nov 2012 10:55 AM
Lumpmoose     
A king married to a princess? They're just paying tribute to the rich tradition of incest in the royal family.

14 Nov 2012 10:56 AM
MisterRonbo     
.WTF is the point of even having royalty if these guys don't marry women I can fap to?

14 Nov 2012 11:28 AM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  

MisterRonbo: .WTF is the point of even having royalty if these guys don't marry women I can fap to?


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14 Nov 2012 11:29 AM
JackieRabbit     
I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.

14 Nov 2012 11:32 AM
Jake Havechek     
Royal bag of bones?

14 Nov 2012 11:32 AM
RevCarter     

Lumpmoose: A king married to a princess? They're just paying tribute to the rich tradition of incest in the royal family.


Hence this link's presence in the Politics tab.

14 Nov 2012 11:33 AM
fred_chan     
They don't call Philip 'King' either. Was this supposed to be surprising?

14 Nov 2012 11:34 AM
Jiro Dreams Of McRibs     
Yes, but is he her Love Tampon? This is important.

14 Nov 2012 11:35 AM
Jake Havechek     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


Doesn't matter who has the title, really. Look at Roger Mortimer, who effectively ruled England via his wife until he was executed.

14 Nov 2012 11:35 AM
FloydA    [TotalFark]  

basemetal: RexTalionis: How is this surprising? Did everyone forget this guy?
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Can it!


That's a very piercing comment.

14 Nov 2012 11:36 AM
jj325    [TotalFark]  
And not a single fark was given

14 Nov 2012 11:37 AM
The My Little Pony Killer     
Wait, is Camilla even considered a princess?

And we've known since their affair that she would never become queen.

14 Nov 2012 11:37 AM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  

JackieRabbit: Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now.


Ahem. Prince Philip, the Prince Consort and Duke of Edinburgh is Queen Victoria's oldest living great-great grandchild. He is, most assuredly, royal.

Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was Queen Victoria's first cousin and is also, most assuredly, royal.

14 Nov 2012 11:37 AM
sprawl15    [TotalFark]  

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen.


You're surprised that Americans don't give a shiat about that thousand year old inbred tea party that festers like a boil on the ass of the English government?

14 Nov 2012 11:38 AM
SavageWombat     
Royal blood doesn't matter if someone would just man up and violently overthrow this sad dynasty.

Honestly, shouldn't Charles have pushed her down the stairs by now? His son's going to steal his throne before he ever sits on it.

14 Nov 2012 11:38 AM
Gyrth     
Quick note people - I've seen Camilla in person and she is an attractive older woman. She just doesn't photograph well. When I saw her me and my friend were shocked.

14 Nov 2012 11:39 AM
pyr8bwoy     
prince phillip is of royal blood, he was a prince of greece, but had to give up his titles when he married elizabeth. being greek, does that mean he puts it in the queen's butt?

14 Nov 2012 11:39 AM
Jake Havechek     
In the old days, only strong and effective monarchs held on to power through sheer force of their will, using intelligence and forging alliances with trustworthy compatriots. Weaker monarchs were ruled by fractious earls, an overbearing church and malign outside influences.

14 Nov 2012 11:39 AM
themeaningoflifeisnot     

Gyrth: Quick note people - I've seen Camilla in person and she is an attractive older woman. She just doesn't photograph well. When I saw her me and my friend were shocked.


Then you f*ck her.

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  

The My Little Pony Killer: Wait, is Camilla even considered a princess?

And we've known since their affair that she would never become queen.


All women, upon marriage into the Royal family, automatically gains the title of princess and become royalty themselves.

The men who marry into the Royal family do not automatically gain the title of Prince, however. Prince Phillip wasn't granted any titles or estates until years after his marriage to Elizabeth II (he gave up his royal titles to marry Elizabeth II).

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
offmymeds     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


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Is not amused.

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
ArkPanda     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


It's a little more complicated than that. Albert and Phillip are Prince Consorts because the are men who married into the royal family--Victoria and Elizabeth had the superior titles going into the marriage. Normally it would be up to Charles what title he wants to give Camilla, but everyone in Britain except for Charles thinks she's a biatch. Of course in the old days they wouldn't have gotten married in the first place, but then he and Diana would never have been divorced, etc. Kate Middleton will almost certainly be Queen but she wasn't nobility until Elizabeth created her Duchess of Cambridge.

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
rufus-t-firefly     
"When I become king, will Camillla be queen?"

"Neigh."

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
Pair-o-Dice     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


Yea, what a dumb ass. Diana was smokin' hot. Camilla, not so much.

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
Great_Milenko     
The confusion regarding this might have something to do with the fact that Camilla looks more like a drag queen than a fairy tale princess.

14 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
Jake Havechek     
I still don't know why Chuck was so indifferent to Di, who we can all admit was a fine piece of ass, for this horse faced wrinklebag.

Maybe she gives great head, or something.

14 Nov 2012 11:41 AM
uncleacid     
Camilla will be pulling the coach at his coronation.

14 Nov 2012 11:42 AM
NeoCortex42     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


I thought Albert was referred to as Prince simply because if the monarch is the Queen, there is never a King. However, if the monarch is the King, than the spouse is referred to as Queen.

14 Nov 2012 11:43 AM
Jackson Herring     
A Horse Joke

14 Nov 2012 11:45 AM
SavageWombat     
You're forgetting that Charles seemed to like men. Maybe a classically-attractive woman made the little prince wither.

14 Nov 2012 11:45 AM
Fano    [TotalFark]  

rufus-t-firefly: "When I become king, will Camillla be queen?"

"Neigh."


Should have been the headline

14 Nov 2012 11:46 AM
Katchaa     
JackieRabbit:
I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering. 

Erm.. sorry, but this is nonsense. Piddle. Tish and flip. The reason Prince Philip is not king is because the queen, whose title/position came by birth, is allowed to rise her husband up to the level of king upon her ascension to the throne, or maintain him as a prince. She chose the latter. And probably for good reason.

14 Nov 2012 11:46 AM
maggoo     
Nice way to thumb your nose to the concept of equality.

14 Nov 2012 11:46 AM
Need_MindBleach     
If the ruler is female, her spouse is referred to as "Prince-consort," I guess so nobody could mistake him for a king. But if the ruler is male, his spouse is referred to as "Queen" even though she's not the one ruling by blood. So really, Charles referring to his spouse as "Princess Consort" rather than "Queen" seems more consistent.

14 Nov 2012 11:50 AM
Deucednuisance    [TotalFark]  
Umm, far be it from me to interrupt a jolly good royals-bashing thread, but how can I be the first to point out that a "Steed" is by definition a "stallion"? Twig and berries and all that.

So, Camilla would be more properly referred to as Charles' "trusty Mount".

Which, come to think of it, is apparently entirely appropriate.

14 Nov 2012 11:54 AM
JackieRabbit     

Jake Havechek: JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.

Doesn't matter who has the title, really. Look at Roger Mortimer, who effectively ruled England via his wife until he was executed.


Oh, there have been several usurpers to the throne, with Oliver Cromwell being the most known. There are revisionists today who celebrate Cromwell for having risen to oppose a tyrant, but the fact remains that he was signatory to Charles' death warrant and set himself up as Lord Protector, in his effort to rid England of the monarchy and set up a new kind of oligarchy. If this isn't textbook usurpation, I don't know what is.

14 Nov 2012 11:54 AM
Twilight Farkle    [TotalFark]  
So much for the coronation ceremony.

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There's a joke to be made here about throwing your wife at your problems just to make them go away, and it's so obvious I could just chuck and die.

14 Nov 2012 11:57 AM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  
In some countries, the commoner spouse of a royal prince or princess has the courtesy title of "Serene Highness". Ah, to be serene all the time. It would almost be as good as being gracious.

Royalty and nobility can be really nit-picking about tiny details of presidence because that is how they keep score. Whoever came up with this system of paying the super-rich (and often not so super-rich) upper classes off in titles and honours of no material value or cost was a genius.

Imagine if you could get Senators to work for free by giving them the occasional bit of string to play with. And what is a ribbon or a sash but a piece of string with a college education?

Everything was a honour or a privilege in former times. Having read a considerable bit of the Memoires of the Duke of Saint Simon and various other works of higher gossip and back-staircase history, I know that grown men and women with small private armies at their command gave up their freedom and their dignity in attend the Royal bowel movement.

Louis XIV was adept at playing this game. Every single moment of his day was spent in ceremonious twaddle except for some of the time he spent asleep or with his mistress. The slightest service provided to the King was ritualized. Handing him the cloth or sponge for his bum was fought over.

At the same time, the nobility and royalty were mad for titles and privileges. Wearing a hat in the King's presence (a privilege of dukes), sitting on a stool rather than standing for hours (a privilege of the top duchesses), and, of course, the right to speak to the King while performing some trifle of an honour, were almost worth killing for.

On the other hand, the King was lavish with money and offices (where you could make a lot of money if you were sufficiently crooked and cruel). He paid doweries so young women could marry, paid gambling debts of members of his family and the Court who were in his good graces (these often amounted to hundreds of thousands of Francs as the nobility played for very high stakes and some did little else).

In short, a Royal Court looks completely insane to us democratic moderns. But then, look at the privileges that we accord to celebrities and the way even Republicans (or especially Republicans), fight over tickets to an event during a Royal Visit. De Tocqueville noted the made up honours and ranks and titles of American clubs and fraternities with noble condescension. The Royal Water Buffalos were a lot more important in his day than today and De Tocqueville noted that even the negroid races had elaborate costumes, ceremonies, rituals, etc., in their fraternal orders, which "aped" those of citizens.

The study of such matters can be a fascinating if frivolous hobby for individuals who are so inclined. It makes genealogy look like surgery by comparison if you do not belong to the class of people who have to know Debrett's, the Peerage, the Baronetage and other reference works and rule books by memory, but it is fascinating to see humans jumping through hoops for the equivalent of a doggy bone.

Clearly this sort of behaviour is built into our monkey brains as thoroughly as it is built into the brains of dogs, horses, and some of the dumber rodents.

But you have to give Royalty credit for replacing constant warfare with constant pointedly bad manners and an elbow in the slats on the way through a double door.

American Conservatives think that other people are slaves for collecting a government insurance rebate on their doctor's visit. I wonder if they'd whine so much if they were given the right to sit in the front rows at theatres (Roman Senators and the Equestrian Classes), or the right to wear their hat indoors while others turn white-knuckled with rage and envy.

I know that they would shoot people as happily for the right to be first out the door as they beat up or shoot little girls for being a threat to their daughter in the county beauty contest.

Vanity of vanities, sayeth the Preacher, all is vanity.--Ecclesiastes

One touch of Nature makes the whole world kin.--Shakespeare

14 Nov 2012 11:58 AM
thunderbird8804     

14 Nov 2012 12:09 PM
ryarger     

JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.


What's funny is that this post combines condescension with complete inaccuracy. It's like a Starbuck's Double Shot of fail.

14 Nov 2012 12:25 PM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  

ryarger: JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.

What's funny is that this post combines condescension with complete inaccuracy. It's like a Starbuck's Double Shot of fail.


Yes, I have noticed that. He doesn't know what he's talking abo ut.

14 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
cryinoutloud     

brantgoose: American Conservatives think that other people are slaves for collecting a government insurance rebate on their doctor's visit. I wonder if they'd whine so much if they were given the right to sit in the front rows at theatres (Roman Senators and the Equestrian Classes), or the right to wear their hat indoors while others turn white-knuckled with rage and envy.
I know that they would shoot people as happily for the right to be first out the door as they beat up or shoot little girls for being a threat to their daughter in the county beauty contest.


Americans would adopt some form of royalty instantly if they thought they could maintain some form of upper class privilege. Now all they have to use against the tyranny of the masses is their money.

Jake Havechek: I still don't know why Chuck was so indifferent to Di, who we can all admit was a fine piece of ass, for this horse faced wrinklebag.
Maybe she gives great head, or something.


That's OK, I wouldn't expect anyone on Fark to have any comprehension of love or a life-long devotion to another person. Plus Diana was crazy, but from what I've seen around here, that doesn't slow any of you down either.

14 Nov 2012 12:39 PM
JackieRabbit     

Katchaa: JackieRabbit:
I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering. 

Erm.. sorry, but this is nonsense. Piddle. Tish and flip. The reason Prince Philip is not king is because the queen, whose title/position came by birth, is allowed to rise her husband up to the level of king upon her ascension to the throne, or maintain him as a prince. She chose the latter. And probably for good reason.


I just looked it up to be sure before I posted to be sure I was correct (it's been a long time since college). Sorry.

14 Nov 2012 12:48 PM
mechgreg     

Pair-o-Dice: JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.

Yea, what a dumb ass. Diana was smokin' hot. Camilla, not so much.


I don't know, I would much rather marry a not as hot chick who I totally got along with that I was actually in love with, then a hot chick who I didn't really get along with that my mom pretty much forced me to marry. I mean till death do you part is a really long time to spend with someone you don't really care for, especially when you have to pretend to like that person in public pretty much all the time. And especially considering how much free time you have when you are the prince of wales.

14 Nov 2012 01:02 PM
GreatPenguin     
Not an issue. The Queen is going to outlive Prince Charles, just to spite him.

14 Nov 2012 01:10 PM
wotthefark     
Ride up on my big ass steeeeddddd!!!!
Then we gonna ride gonna smoke some weeeeedddd!!!!
Ride Camilla Ride.

14 Nov 2012 01:13 PM
Rent Party    [TotalFark]  

JackieRabbit: Jake Havechek: JackieRabbit: I guess that Americans know so little about royalty that they have to be told that one must be of royal blood to have the title Queen. Non-royals married to a monarch are always Prince or Prince Consort, just as Albert is now. Diana Spencer was of royal lineage and would have been queen had Charles' royal cock hadn't gone a wandering.

Doesn't matter who has the title, really. Look at Roger Mortimer, who effectively ruled England via his wife until he was executed.

Oh, there have been several usurpers to the throne, with Oliver Cromwell being the most known. There are revisionists today who celebrate Cromwell for having risen to oppose a tyrant, but the fact remains that he was signatory to Charles' death warrant and set himself up as Lord Protector, in his effort to rid England of the monarchy and set up a new kind of oligarchy. If this isn't textbook usurpation, I don't know what is.


At the end of Cromwell's life, he had become King in everything except title. He had the authority over state, he had the authority over church, he formed and disbanded parliaments at his pleasure. His farking crypt looks like a Kings, and his funeral was fit for one.

He did get one thing right, though, along with the French. The proper way to deal with anyone claiming God's anointment to rule you.

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