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   Somehow, Ohio has still managed not to count 300,000 votes. Not that it will change the results--but how hard can it be?

14 Nov 2012 11:56 AM   |   7842 clicks   |   Washington Examiner
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DamnYankees    [TotalFark]  
Arizona has the same. It's farking pathetic.

14 Nov 2012 08:36 AM
HST's Dead Carcass    [TotalFark]  
Do you think Karl Rove is pointing to this as a means to distract the Koch Brothers from him funneling the SuperPAC money to his offshore accounts?

/just asking questions

14 Nov 2012 08:37 AM
Generation_D    [TotalFark]  
when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.

14 Nov 2012 08:42 AM
Lumpmoose     
So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's
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14 Nov 2012 08:56 AM
Dufus    [TotalFark]  

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


I guess some guy named "Chad" is in charge of that count?

14 Nov 2012 09:02 AM
Kingly Weevil     
Have we not already covered that Ohio sucks? We were aware of this before, during, and after the election.

Sometimes incompetence just...continues. Don't pretend to be surprised.

14 Nov 2012 09:07 AM
MacEnvy    [TotalFark]  

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


Byron York.

14 Nov 2012 09:14 AM
nekom    [TotalFark]  

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.

14 Nov 2012 09:17 AM
BunkyBrewman     
The comments on that thread are priceless. The ones where they're saying the "election is not over" until all of the votes are counted is the most priceless.

Sorry Ohio, Florida and Arizona. You've effectively rendered your states irrelevant with your shenanigans.

Why yes, I am amused by your shenanigans.

14 Nov 2012 09:28 AM
ManateeGag    [TotalFark]  
once they get to potato, they get confused and need to take a break.

14 Nov 2012 09:43 AM
ArkAngel    [TotalFark]  

Dufus: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

I guess some guy named "Chad" is in charge of that count?


Hey! The Chad is great!

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


When hundreds of thousands of people cast their votes in a way that makes it more difficult to verify and count them (especially when it's more than it has been in the past), it takes longer. Look at California - they have millions of uncounted ballots still.

14 Nov 2012 09:49 AM
Lumpmoose     

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


I agree that the voting system needs to be improved--perhaps even federally regulated for national races. But I also think the secretary's office can take its time to sort through 300,000 provisional and absentee paper ballots. If Ohio was close enough to trigger a recount, I think they should take even longer.

In my mind, Minnesota's very transparent and coordinated recount of the Franken-Coleman race is ideal. The Supreme Court preventing the true outcome of Florida in 2000 is not. Taking your time and establishing methods is preferable.

14 Nov 2012 10:03 AM
Mugato    [TotalFark]  
So Florida finished their vote counting before at least one other state? Way to go!

/still finds it hilarious that after all the time Romney spent campaigning in FL, the fact that they held the RNC there and all the shady registration shenannegans the republicans pulled, not only did he still lose FL, it didn't matter that he lost FL

14 Nov 2012 10:10 AM
Testiclaw     

DamnYankees: Arizona has the same. It's farking pathetic.


Saw that on Maddow last night...blew me away. 18,000 counted per day, with 300,000+ remaining to be counted -by Friday.

What happens to the votes left over that aren't counted by Friday? Tossed.

Unbelievable.

/Ring ring ring banana republic

14 Nov 2012 10:12 AM
Irving Maimway    [TotalFark]  

Testiclaw:

/Ring ring ring banana republic


Doo doo doobie doo!

Farking sad, we need someone like Jimmy Carter to monitor our elections because we can't run them as well as Nicaragua.

14 Nov 2012 10:47 AM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  
Perhaps the law could be changed so that provisional ballots will be counted on election day instead of ten days after the election?

14 Nov 2012 11:24 AM
Lando Lincoln    [TotalFark]  
Certifying over 200,000 provisional ballots can take some time.

14 Nov 2012 11:41 AM
uberaverage     
Ohio is the Florida of the mid-west.

14 Nov 2012 12:02 PM
StokeyBob     
Should we bother? They aren't going to agree with the teleprompter anyways.

14 Nov 2012 12:02 PM
Cataholic     
We have a system that can flash-fry a buffalo in 40 seconds...but we want it NOW!

14 Nov 2012 12:04 PM
Bacontastesgood    [TotalFark]  

Testiclaw: What happens to the votes left over that aren't counted by Friday? Tossed.


srsly? Everyone responsible for that fiasco should get one UFIA for each citizen's vote they throw away.

14 Nov 2012 12:04 PM
Nightsweat     
How hard can it be?

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14 Nov 2012 12:05 PM
crabsno termites     
Ummm . . . if they haven't counted them, how do they know how many there are? Just askin'

/arthametic is so hard for me

14 Nov 2012 12:05 PM
jfivealive     
One Vote
AH AH AH AH
Two Votes
AH AH AH AH
Three Votes
AH AH AH AH

14 Nov 2012 12:06 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  
It's because this guy is doing the counting:

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"One! One vote for Obama, Ah Ah Ah!"
"Two! Two votes for Obama, Ah Ah Ah!"

14 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  

jfivealive: One Vote
AH AH AH AH
Two Votes
AH AH AH AH
Three Votes
AH AH AH AH


Damn, was just a little slow on the draw there.

14 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
senorpogo     
This isn't a matter of being slow or unable to count ballots. In Ohio, provisional ballots are given to voters whose eligibility is in question. Voters then have ten days to prove their eligibility. The votes will be counted this Saturday.

Things have been set up this way to avoid voter disenfranchisement and make sure that people's votes do get count. That's a good thing, right?

14 Nov 2012 12:09 PM
Dimensio     

OregonVet: Perhaps the law could be changed so that provisional ballots will be counted on election day instead of ten days after the election?


A provisional ballot may only be counted for the election results after the voter has verified his or her eligibility to cast it after the day of the election. Reading the results of the ballot prior establishing the voter's eligibility, but not adding them to the final results until after eligibility is established, would require recording the voter's specific vote choices, which eliminates voter secrecy.

14 Nov 2012 12:09 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  

HST's Dead Carcass: Do you think Karl Rove is pointing to this as a means to distract the Koch Brothers from him funneling the SuperPAC money to his offshore accounts?

/just asking questions


I thought about this. How do we know Karl Rove isn't just doing what the Koch Brothers want him to do, which is get money from their offshore accounts, funneled through the SuperPAC, then back through to their bank accounts in the states, to avoid tax laws.

14 Nov 2012 12:11 PM
OnlyM3     
Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.

Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?

14 Nov 2012 12:15 PM
Generation_D    [TotalFark]  

Lumpmoose: nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.

I agree that the voting system needs to be improved--perhaps even federally regulated for national races. But I also think the secretary's office can take its time to sort through 300,000 provisional and absentee paper ballots. If Ohio was close enough to trigger a recount, I think they should take even longer.

In my mind, Minnesota's very transparent and coordinated recount of the Franken-Coleman race is ideal. The Supreme Court preventing the true outcome of Florida in 2000 is not. Taking your time and establishing methods is preferable.


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14 Nov 2012 12:16 PM
crabsno termites     

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


I can believe that OH has 25 counties without any resident elephants, but filled with asses.

14 Nov 2012 12:18 PM
Dimensio     

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


Please identify a county in which no Republican received a vote.

14 Nov 2012 12:18 PM
DontMakeMeComeBackThere     

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?


Let's say someone shows up to vote, and their name is not on the list, even though they say they've lived in the same house for 30 years. They cast a provisional ballot. Now, some live person (not a computer) has to verify that this person really does live at the address they provided, and really should have been able to vote AND the person in question may even have to show up in person and show someone ID and power bills or something to prove who they are and where they live.

That times 300 THOUSAND...and you want that done in a couple days? Really?

You can argue about how Ohio got 300,000+ provisional ballots in the first place...but it's gonna take a long time to sort out...no amount of "Where's my flying car" logic is going to change that.

14 Nov 2012 12:19 PM
Fizpez     

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


Here ya go ACE Link

Don't let facts get in the way of a good talking point.

14 Nov 2012 12:20 PM
Lobo2010     
These states are only getting attention to their issues because they're so close. Who knows? Solid states like California could be setting half their ballots on fire, as far as we know!

14 Nov 2012 12:21 PM
hdhale     

RedPhoenix122: HST's Dead Carcass: Do you think Karl Rove is pointing to this as a means to distract the Koch Brothers from him funneling the SuperPAC money to his offshore accounts?

/just asking questions

I thought about this. How do we know Karl Rove isn't just doing what the Koch Brothers want him to do, which is get money from their offshore accounts, funneled through the SuperPAC, then back through to their bank accounts in the states, to avoid tax laws.


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14 Nov 2012 12:23 PM
kiwimoogle84     
"Not all provisional or absentee ballots will be counted. They are subject to challenge"


...well, now I feel like my vote matters a TON.

/sarcasm

14 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
bunner     
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Thou hast made me loseth the count again, woman!

1... 2..."
 

14 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
HST's Dead Carcass    [TotalFark]  
So, Obama concedes Ohio to Romney, he still won by a long shot. Romney is still not president!

14 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
jack21221     

nekom: You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


What's the big hurry? They have until sometime in December before the electoral college votes.

14 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
MindStalker     
I can see not ONE of you actually read the article. These provisional ballots WON'T be reported until November 17th when canvasing officially starts. Its the process under Ohio law. Give it a rest people.

14 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
ringersol     
Generation_D: "when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan"

This. The goal is to make provisional ballots look like a dead-end, so anyone who isn't 110% sure they won't wind up with a provisional stays home and anyone offered a provisional at a polling place rage-quits the whole deal. If they actually knew what to do with provisionals and counted them according to the existing laws, they wouldn't be a dead-end and wouldn't suppress anything.

All that said: it may be time the nation as a whole puts forward a "vote however you want, backwards states, but you must support a nationally-consistent vote-by-mail system for those who choose to use it."

Because all this suppression nonsense -- not to mention the inanity of holding elections on workdays without consistent hours or early voting laws -- has gone on long enough.

14 Nov 2012 12:32 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  

hdhale: RedPhoenix122: HST's Dead Carcass: Do you think Karl Rove is pointing to this as a means to distract the Koch Brothers from him funneling the SuperPAC money to his offshore accounts?

/just asking questions

I thought about this. How do we know Karl Rove isn't just doing what the Koch Brothers want him to do, which is get money from their offshore accounts, funneled through the SuperPAC, then back through to their bank accounts in the states, to avoid tax laws.

[roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com image 360x460]


Not saying I'm right, just saying, if you wanted to bring money back in while avoiding tax laws, it'd be a good way to do it.

14 Nov 2012 12:36 PM
limeyfellow     

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


It may not be enough votes to overrule the presidential vote, but some of the local votes are rather close. That is probably the main reason to need to count them.

14 Nov 2012 12:36 PM
Gosling     

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


If it was your vote that was one of those ballots, I guarantee you'd get pissed off for someone even suggesting there isn't a problem.

14 Nov 2012 12:37 PM
trappedspirit     
Yeah, we don't need election observers. We can handle it ourselves.

/too proud to compromise reputation for legitimacy

14 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
zippythechimp     
Bring in Jethro Bodine to do some cyphering.

14 Nov 2012 12:43 PM
Lumpmoose     

Generation_D: Lumpmoose: nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.

I agree that the voting system needs to be improved--perhaps even federally regulated for national races. But I also think the secretary's office can take its time to sort through 300,000 provisional and absentee paper ballots. If Ohio was close enough to trigger a recount, I think they should take even longer.

In my mind, Minnesota's very transparent and coordinated recount of the Franken-Coleman race is ideal. The Supreme Court preventing the true outcome of Florida in 2000 is not. Taking your time and establishing methods is preferable.

[www.lizardpersonornot.com image 225x300]


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I love that example because it actually counted as an overvote, not a vote for Franken. The State Canvassing Board decided that write-ins would count as votes even if the oval wasn't filled in. So the above ballot had two votes for Senator and was discounted. I disagree--I think it should have been a vote for Franken since only his oval was filled in. But I respect the board's procedures and final decision. It's a great example of election fairness.

14 Nov 2012 12:43 PM
DECMATH     

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


I guess those "Voting Republican is a Felony" billboards did their job.

14 Nov 2012 12:45 PM
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