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   Lt. Gen. Russell Honoré: Federal and local responses to Sandy are stuck on stupid

15 Nov 2012 11:19 AM   |   5309 clicks   |   CNN
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Dinki    [TotalFark]  
Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré led Task Force Katrina in the aftermath of the hurricane that struck the Gulf Coast in 2005.


Yes, tell us how to run a disaster recovery response.

15 Nov 2012 07:59 AM
Gulper Eel    [TotalFark]  

Dinki: Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré led Task Force Katrina in the aftermath of the hurricane that struck the Gulf Coast in 2005.


Yes, tell us how to run a disaster recovery response.



He's the one who got the job of cleaning up the mess left behind by Katrina, Brownie and four decades worth of local incompetence and corruption...were you expecting to trust maybe Ray Nagin's judgment instead? Brownie's? Oprah's?

15 Nov 2012 08:01 AM
kronicfeld    [TotalFark]  
I'm not sure I see any real criticism of the federal response in there; it seems to be questioning why New York isn't letting the federal government help more.

15 Nov 2012 08:56 AM
Bendal     
His comments are aimed at NY's response more than NJ or the Fed. One does wonder why Cuomo hasn't called for more NY NG troops when people still don't have food/water/power at their community.

15 Nov 2012 11:23 AM
InspectorZero     
I'd trade 10 four stars for one of this guy.

15 Nov 2012 11:24 AM
Headso     

Bendal: His comments are aimed at NY's response more than NJ or the Fed. One does wonder why Cuomo hasn't called for more NY NG troops when people still don't have food/water/power at their community.


my experience with living in NY is that it is a money grubbing shiathole that does as little as possible for the citizenry.

15 Nov 2012 11:25 AM
JackieRabbit     

kronicfeld: I'm not sure I see any real criticism of the federal response in there; it seems to be questioning why New York isn't letting the federal government help more.


Maybe Subby's stuck on stupid?

And maybe, just maybe the response isn't as big as the one for Katrina because NY and NJ got hammered, but not on the scale of Katrina.

15 Nov 2012 11:25 AM
iheartscotch     
I am forced to conclude; Obama hates white people.

/ I keed, I keed

15 Nov 2012 11:25 AM
ManRay     
FEMA typically gets high ratings for their handling of a disaster right after it happens. As the recovery goes on, opinions tend to sour.

15 Nov 2012 11:27 AM
RandyJohnson     
Obama hates orange people.

15 Nov 2012 11:27 AM
ghare     

kronicfeld: I'm not sure I see any real criticism of the federal response in there; it seems to be questioning why New York isn't letting the federal government help more.


Yes, but you can't get clicks without blaming the ebil ebil Feds.

15 Nov 2012 11:27 AM
GranoblasticMan     
THIS IS OBAMA'S KATRINA'S KATRINA!

15 Nov 2012 11:31 AM
ShadowLAnCeR     
well look at the area that the hurricane hit, and there you go.

15 Nov 2012 11:32 AM
vudukungfu    [TotalFark]  
Where is the command center? D.C.
Who is in charge? POTUS
Where is the National Guard? Recovering from shooting students at Kent State.

15 Nov 2012 11:33 AM
Twilight Farkle    [TotalFark]  
I remember first hearing about this guy during Katrina. Ordering troops to lower weapons aimed at civilians because they were "on a rescue mission, damnit!" It's good to see he's still a John Wayne dude who gets stuff done.

/salute.

15 Nov 2012 11:40 AM
Albert     
heck of a job "brownie"!!


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The media also did a great job of hiding the cluster fark until their boy was elected.

15 Nov 2012 11:42 AM
starsrift     

RandyJohnson: Obama hates orange people.


I snrked.

15 Nov 2012 11:43 AM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

Headso: Bendal: His comments are aimed at NY's response more than NJ or the Fed. One does wonder why Cuomo hasn't called for more NY NG troops when people still don't have food/water/power at their community.

my experience with living in NY is that it is a money grubbing shiathole that does as little as possible for the citizenry.


And as much as possible *TO* the citizenry.

15 Nov 2012 11:46 AM
Mrbogey     
People have a lot of outrage depending on who is available to blame.

15 Nov 2012 11:48 AM
Skiffy     

Dinki: Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré led Task Force Katrina in the aftermath of the hurricane that struck the Gulf Coast in 2005.


Yes, tell us how to run a disaster recovery response.


Your a idiot.

15 Nov 2012 11:51 AM
Headso     

Albert: The media also did a great job of hiding the cluster fark until their boy was elected.


yeah, the liberal media conspiracy... you should only trust right wing news, look how accurate they were with the election results. they never lie.

15 Nov 2012 11:54 AM
k1j2b3     

Headso:

yeah, the liberal media conspiracy... you should only trust right wing news, look how accurate they were with the election results. they never lie.


If you look at FoxNews's polls before the election, they always reported a very close race. Besides, we all knew that it was about turnout. Republicans didn't get their supporters out there to vote. That's about it. I think the disconnect was looking at polls based on 2008 turnouts and wondering, "Will the Democrats be able to repeat that turnout?" They didn't quite do it, but Republicans failed to get close to their 2008 turnout also. Some just didn't believe there would be anywhere near the Dem turnout in 2008 and looked to previous elections for some balance.

15 Nov 2012 12:05 PM
hasty ambush     
Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré sounds racist

15 Nov 2012 12:06 PM
mongbiohazard     
I don't think he's properly taking in to account the differences between New Orleans and NYC. For all its faults, NYC has a much better functioning state apparatus than New Orleans had. More National Guard troops might possibly not help as much in NYC.

I actually let my company know I was happy to volunteer to go up and help our office clean up/recover. They told me know, they have plenty of manpower already. In fact, some of our associates were spending a lot of time in the office because they didn't have power yet restored at home.

15 Nov 2012 12:16 PM
germ78     

Dinki: Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré led Task Force Katrina in the aftermath of the hurricane that struck the Gulf Coast in 2005.

Yes, tell us how to run a disaster recovery response.


I tend to think the Lt. Gen. learned a thing or two about disaster response from Katrina. His opinions are grounded in experience, so I'll take his word for it.

/don't put on the blinders because they criticized your guy
//voted O

15 Nov 2012 12:20 PM
planes     
Another case of Democratic selective outrage:

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Before internet and satellite tv coverage, there was the 1995 Chicago Heat Wave. 739 poor, and mainly black, people died, while President Clinton vacationed. (new window)

15 Nov 2012 12:55 PM
yagottabefarkinkiddinme     
The General is a leader. I have the highest respect for this man. Our Country needs more leaders like him.

15 Nov 2012 01:02 PM
seadoo2006     
Uh, maybe because nobody gives a flying fark about the Jersey Shore or Long Island ... just sayin' ...

15 Nov 2012 01:08 PM
Snort     
Too much turf protection. Same reason it took so long to start building a new tower.

15 Nov 2012 01:10 PM
uber humper     
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15 Nov 2012 01:53 PM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

uber humper: [i.imgur.com image 358x293]


That's the same look he (Mike Myers) had in the "Amazing Time Savers" sketch, when Heather Locklear talks about the Holocaust being a big lie.

15 Nov 2012 02:12 PM
ringersol     
Lt Gen "shoulda used Google": "Why did New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo only call in half the New York Guard"

Wild guess, but has anyone checked Afghanistan?

15 Nov 2012 02:22 PM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

ringersol: Lt Gen "shoulda used Google": "Why did New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo only call in half the New York Guard"

Wild guess, but has anyone checked Afghanistan?


The New York Guard can't deploy outside of the state. You might be thinking of the New York National Guard.

15 Nov 2012 02:27 PM
uber humper     

dittybopper: uber humper: [i.imgur.com image 358x293]

That's the same look he (Mike Myers) had in the "Amazing Time Savers" sketch, when Heather Locklear talks about the Holocaust being a big lie.


I'm pretty sure that's the same look everyone had who saw that.

15 Nov 2012 02:38 PM
chetbango     
WTF is the New York Guard?

15 Nov 2012 03:05 PM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

chetbango: WTF is the New York Guard?


It's the purely state organized militia force that "fills in the gap" for the New York National Guard if it gets deployed. The New York Guard, however, can't be federalized, and thus can't be deployed outside of the state without the express consent of the governor, so it's always available for in-state use.

15 Nov 2012 03:20 PM
The Dog Ate My Homework     
This development will surely help Romney's chances in last week's election.

15 Nov 2012 03:29 PM
Sean M     
From a Floridian who's been through quite a few major hurricanes:

Hey NE US! This is what a hurricane is like. This is what Floridians go through every few years and somehow still manage to live. We've even managed to stop biatching about power being out and have learned to enjoy our extended time off from work.

/ProTip: Find a good coastal community (w/adequate preparations) which has a strong fishing community. Hurricanes mean some of best parties you'd ever seen. The fisherman have giant diesel-powered ice machines, the bars have kegs, and the restaurants have walk-in freezers/fridges full of food that needs to be eaten.

15 Nov 2012 03:49 PM
plewis     
one thing to remember, New Yorkers and northeasterners in general aren't floundering retards without resources. This has less to do with being black or orange and more to do with the geography. In NOLA, the less you move the better because it's a steambath, in the NE, you freeze to death half the year. Plus, the NE is less about "family" and more about "community." You don't have to actually KNOW the guy you are helping out in order to help out, you just realize that theere is someone who had a dune move into their living room, see that you aren't doing anything more important and pick up a shovel.

There are going to be lots of disruptions, but by the summer, Jersey and New York will be back to being themselves while New Orleans will still have people living in rotting FEMA trailers.

15 Nov 2012 04:48 PM
fredbox    [TotalFark]  
Those of us on the west coast have known that the media only concerns itself with events on the east coast for quite some time. I guess we now understand that they really only concern themselves with a few blocks of Manhattan.

15 Nov 2012 05:12 PM
weclock     
"We've seen this kind of destruction before.."
What a load of bull, Katrina was massive, and it was hard and painful, but super storm sandy blows katrina out of the water.

15 Nov 2012 06:24 PM
uber humper     

fredbox: Those of us on the west coast have known that the media only concerns itself with events on the east coast for quite some time. I guess we now understand that they really only concern themselves with a few blocks of Manhattan.


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Just about

15 Nov 2012 06:24 PM
Mrbogey     

plewis: one thing to remember, New Yorkers and northeasterners in general aren't floundering retards without resources. This has less to do with being black or orange and more to do with the geography. In NOLA, the less you move the better because it's a steambath, in the NE, you freeze to death half the year. Plus, the NE is less about "family" and more about "community." You don't have to actually KNOW the guy you are helping out in order to help out, you just realize that theere is someone who had a dune move into their living room, see that you aren't doing anything more important and pick up a shovel.


I'm curious if you've ever spent any time here. Because I wonder where you got such a dissonant sociology of the area.

15 Nov 2012 06:42 PM
Mrbogey     

weclock: What a load of bull, Katrina was massive, and it was hard and painful, but super storm sandy blows katrina out of the water.


By what metric have you arrived at that claim?

15 Nov 2012 06:43 PM
uber humper     

Mrbogey: weclock: What a load of bull, Katrina was massive, and it was hard and painful, but super storm sandy blows katrina out of the water.

By what metric have you arrived at that claim?


I guess Sandy was larger in area. But wasn't Sandy a category 1? 

And the reason they called it a "super storm" was because it was not quite a hurricane?

15 Nov 2012 07:00 PM
uber humper     

Mrbogey: weclock: What a load of bull, Katrina was massive, and it was hard and painful, but super storm sandy blows katrina out of the water.

By what metric have you arrived at that claim?


Just checked damage

Katrina: 1,899 deaths $100B damage
Sandy: 200 deaths $50B damage

15 Nov 2012 07:02 PM
MadMagnum     

plewis: one thing to remember, New Yorkers and northeasterners in general aren't floundering retards without resources. This has less to do with being black or orange and more to do with the geography. In NOLA, the less you move the better because it's a steambath, in the NE, you freeze to death half the year. Plus, the NE is less about "family" and more about "community." You don't have to actually KNOW the guy you are helping out in order to help out, you just realize that theere is someone who had a dune move into their living room, see that you aren't doing anything more important and pick up a shovel.

There are going to be lots of disruptions, but by the summer, Jersey and New York will be back to being themselves while New Orleans will still have people living in rotting FEMA trailers.


This is possibly the dumbest thing I have seen on the internet. And I remind you, I roll with the Palin crowd....

15 Nov 2012 08:14 PM
Gulper Eel    [TotalFark]  

plewis: New Yorkers and northeasterners in general aren't floundering retards


Just the ones we elect.

15 Nov 2012 08:35 PM
ihatedumbpeople     
Colonel Honorè, (at the time) used to come to our site every morning for coffee when we provided coms for 1st Brigade 3rd ID at Ft Stewart. Dude was cool.

/csb
//31F
///not sure what that MOS is now

15 Nov 2012 10:36 PM
praxis44241     
I met the General before Katrina. That man can punch you in the face and wipe your tears with bleach. That guy is not laughing. NOPE.

15 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
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