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DammitIForgotMyLogin: Since when is beer a hidden college expense?
Jim_Callahan: tuition and fees accounts for only 38 percent of the total student expense budget for in-state students enrolled in public four-year institutions.In-state tuition is on the order of 5-6k$ for a 9-month semester. In an urban area, rent will run you easily 500-700$ a month, i.e. 4.5k$ to 6.3k$ for the non-summer period.Article proceeds on the assumption that the 200$-300$ yearly spent on parking and clubs are a significant hidden cost to someone that has to come up with 12k$ a year. Riiiiiiiiight.
D3_WR: Books and media: According to The College Board, the average annual cost of books for a college student ranges from $850-1000. This is one item you shouldn't skimp on. To save money, buy used textbooks (even cheaper used books can be found online vs. in the bookstore) or use library resources. If books cost more than you expected, revise the "textbook" budget for future semesters accordingly.What a bunch of bullshiat! Who the fark pays 1000 bucks in textbooks per year? The only way to approach that is if you bought new versions from the university bookstore, and had 4 science classes per semester that all had $150 textbooks. This is one item you SHOULD skimp on. Share with a friend, use the library, buy online, or half the time, don't even bother to buy a book, since they often aren't even really required
december: 14. Retaking classes.I teach at a university where students can retake classes as many times as they like to try to improve the grade. Many students take this as an invitation to blow off the class the 1st time around, see what grade they get, then decide whether to take it again.As a money making scheme it's brilliant: you get lazy students to pay twice. As a prof it's annoying because as soon as grades are posted you get a rash of students emailing to find out if the assignments will be the same next time the class is offered.
JackieRabbit: I fail to see how any of these are "hidden". Most are expense of daily living. Some are unnecessary and easily avoided.
JonZoidberg: I was told that federal loans will no longer pay for retaking a class a third time to improve your grade. They did say, however, that if you failed it twice and are retaking a third time, the loans will cover it. I can't comprehend taking a class 3 times, much less 2, when having passed it already; and I think that if you fail it twice you should change your major or take some time off to get your priorities straight instead of trying it yet again.
LiberalEastCoastElitist: Books and media - Do not buy books if you can possibly get away with it. Borrow someone else's book and photocopy the assignment pages and buy an older edition from ebay. Either it's something like philosophy, which does not change, or it's something like science, which does change, inevitably resulting in a $200 brick in 5 years. 100% chance it will wind up resold (for much less money) or in a garbage can. Nobody has use for a 15 year old biochem text.Class and parking fees - Use the freaking catalog and figure it outHaving fun - Get a jobFraternities and Sororities - Get a jobGetting involved - Get a jobFurnishings - Hand me downsElectronics - Get a jobCable TV - Go study!Wardrobe - Get a jobMobile phone service - Get a jobFood and beverage costs - Pack a sammichTravel costs - Ok, I'd pay for a semester abroad/I remind myself of my parents right now
JonZoidberg: JackieRabbit: I fail to see how any of these are "hidden". Most are expense of daily living. Some are unnecessary and easily avoided.Totally agreed. Transportation? "I guess they might come visit at some point..." Books? Yeah, you might need a book or two. Buy the previous edition or international edition if available, or even better, the international previous edition. For my Genetics class, most of the group paid $125 for the brand new 9th ed; I paid $8 for the international 8th edition and got invited to be the tutor for the class after acing it so well. I hope the supreme court doesn't quash our ability to legally reimport books that undercut the excessive prices at the bookstore, but in a few months it's no longer my problem, whee!/After a year or so at work, I go back for my doctorate, whee.....
I May Be Crazy But...: When I was in grad school, one of the courses you that everyone had to take at first was taught over and over by one professor, and he gave the same homework every year. (It's really well done, so he reuses it.) I had loaned my notes out after I took it, and apparently my homework was there as well. So a few years later I'm grading for that class and see a homework where every part I say to myself "That how I would do that!" I went and asked the guy whose work it was and he shows me an old homework of mine and says, "Oh, I mostly followed this." Apparently the fact that my name was at the top of the page was a minor detail that had escaped him.
curtis_e_bare: Hold on, you need books for these college courses? Shirley, theses books are free.
justneal: yeah, no one ever knew they had to buy books
rbt: I know of a couple of universities whose parking fees are approaching $1000/yr.Surface lots around strip malls here in Toronto cost about $80/month/spot to build and maintain a paved lot. That includes land cost, snow clearing, repaving once a decade, etc. Charging less than $960/year in this city would be a subsidy to drivers, penalizing those who take other modes or live on campus.Multi-level parking garage costs are quite a bit higher due to the added capital for building the lot.
JonZoidberg: december: 14. Retaking classes.I teach at a university where students can retake classes as many times as they like to try to improve the grade. Many students take this as an invitation to blow off the class the 1st time around, see what grade they get, then decide whether to take it again...I was told that federal loans will no longer pay for retaking a class a third time to improve your grade. They did say, however, that if you failed it twice and are retaking a third time, the loans will cover it. I can't comprehend taking a class 3 times, much less 2, when having passed it already; and I think that if you fail it twice you should change your major or take some time off to get your priorities straight instead of trying it yet again.
FizixJunkee: And federal loans or Pell grants shouldn't be used to cover the cost of remedial courses, either.
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