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   Ikea: Yeah, sorry about using slave labor to make our furniture. Our bad

16 Nov 2012 12:08 PM   |   7423 clicks   |   New York Daily News
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Linoleum_Blownapart     
Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

* Or less if they're temp workers

16 Nov 2012 11:39 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves    [TotalFark]  
That explains why my new microwave cart is named "Toby"

16 Nov 2012 12:09 PM
cgraves67     
If labor is that cheap, why can't they just assemble the damned thing and be done with it?

16 Nov 2012 12:11 PM
Psychopusher     
All in all, it's just another brick in the wall unit.

16 Nov 2012 12:13 PM
ringersol     
Without their knowledge.
Despite explicit attempts to prevent it.
Thirty to fifty years ago.

I think it speaks to IKEA's corporate character that they even give a shiat about mistakes made decades ago.
US corporations usually can't be bothered to give a shiat about what mistakes they made *last quarter*.
Let alone bother to apologize or claim they won't repeat them.

Hell, even the very concept of a US corporation *having* character is laughable on its face.

16 Nov 2012 12:16 PM
KrispyKritter     
holy crap! they've never bought sneakers in America, huh.

16 Nov 2012 12:16 PM
uttertosh     

Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

* Or less if they're temp workers


or you could post something relevant to tfa.

Communist Germany political prisoners in forced labour camps, I'm quite sure, did not get any holidays or receive any payment.

/Though this was a 'snowflake' headline about Swedes making their own children assemble ikea furniture, with no candy reward.

16 Nov 2012 12:17 PM
JohnCarter     
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16 Nov 2012 12:19 PM
ArcadianRefugee     
Holy shiat this is--

25 to 30 years ago

oh.

16 Nov 2012 12:20 PM
danielscissorhands     
Ohhh...so that's why my bookshelf is called Stasi!

16 Nov 2012 12:20 PM
cig-mkr     
Hey, as a company they have to bring shareholder value, so you find the lowest labor cost. Maybe that's why so many companies are in China now. Oh wait, the companies are reverting back to Mexico, because Mexico isn't so far away, they don't use lead paint, and there isn't as much bribery going on.

16 Nov 2012 12:21 PM
The Face Of Oblivion     
Communism sucked and big businesses with longstanding ties to nominally third-way social democrats provided political cover in exchange for cheap labor? Oh boy, that's never happened before.

16 Nov 2012 12:21 PM
BigNumber12     
In before before "not true communists."

16 Nov 2012 12:25 PM
Bluemoons     
Ok, I rarely ever commment, but this is ridiculous. They were a burgeoning and expanding company at the time, and outsourced a little labor. They obviously had a system of checks and balances in place, and it failed, so they fixed it. End of story.

16 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
Walt_Jizzney     
Not a bad place for cheap breakfast and semi-disposable furniture.

16 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
cuzsis     

ringersol: Without their knowledge.
Despite explicit attempts to prevent it.
Thirty to fifty years ago.

I think it speaks to IKEA's corporate character that they even give a shiat about mistakes made decades ago.
US corporations usually can't be bothered to give a shiat about what mistakes they made *last quarter*.
Let alone bother to apologize or claim they won't repeat them.

Hell, even the very concept of a US corporation *having* character is laughable on its face.


This.

Strangely enough, this makes me like them as a company more.

/whowouldathunkit?

16 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
mekkab     

ArcadianRefugee: Holy shiat this is--

25 to 30 years ago

oh.


I am deeply ambivalent about this whole story.


/Survivors should get an apology and some swedish meatballs

16 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
FatherChaos    [TotalFark]  
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16 Nov 2012 12:31 PM
trialpha     
FTA: "Wagner said he hoped that Ikea and others would consider compensating former prisoners, many of whom carry psychological and physical scars from arduous labor they were forced to do."

Ah, fishing for money. I was wondering why this was brought up.

16 Nov 2012 12:38 PM
BigLuca    [TotalFark]  
It's funny cause there is a boxed Ikea bookcase sitting in my living room right now that the wife and I are both pointedly ignoring.

We'll see who breaks first.

/actually I think it's Sauder. Can't afford that fancy Ikea shiat

16 Nov 2012 12:40 PM
mekkab     

BigLuca: We'll see who breaks first.


This game is the real joy of marriage.


/good luck; hope you don't buckle!

16 Nov 2012 01:00 PM
OldManDownDRoad     

trialpha: FTA: "Wagner said he hoped that Ikea and others would consider compensating former prisoners, many of whom carry psychological and physical scars from arduous labor they were forced to do."

Ah, fishing for money. I was wondering why this was brought up.


Yep. Any time you see a story like this, there's an "ask" in there somewhere. And if they say they just want "justice" you can be sure you'll see another story in the near future where "justice" is defined as a pay-out.

/and we all know who ends up with most of the money

16 Nov 2012 01:03 PM
ProfessorOhki     
Wait, why does Ikea even need labor? It sure as hell ain't for assembly.

16 Nov 2012 01:06 PM
StaleCoffee     
Apple went them one better with child and slave labor.

That was this year though so it needs some time in the barrel.

16 Nov 2012 01:10 PM
Devolving_Spud     
"Ikea is only the tip of the iceberg,"

Iceberg...Goldberg....

16 Nov 2012 01:12 PM
497.5 Feet of Rope     
Bümmer.

16 Nov 2012 01:15 PM
jtown     
I'll bet this bumps the value of old Ikea furniture if it can be authenticated as having been produced by East German prison labor.

16 Nov 2012 01:23 PM
antidumbass     
In the US, the Corrections Corporation of America sells a labor pool (guess where) to do jobs including office furniture assembly for as little as 23 cents an hour. Even a phone call from behind bars can run $2.50 a minute.

/welcome to the new China, comrades
//a vastly under reported story

16 Nov 2012 01:24 PM
Random Discord     
Um they were prisoners, not slaves.

I'm OK with it

16 Nov 2012 01:25 PM
TheRameres     

OldManDownDRoad: trialpha: FTA: "Wagner said he hoped that Ikea and others would consider compensating former prisoners, many of whom carry psychological and physical scars from arduous labor they were forced to do."

Ah, fishing for money. I was wondering why this was brought up.

Yep. Any time you see a story like this, there's an "ask" in there somewhere. And if they say they just want "justice" you can be sure you'll see another story in the near future where "justice" is defined as a pay-out.

/and we all know who ends up with most of the money


What kind of scars do you get from building a Shlorbanen or a Fikkenduren? I mean, yeah, that Haggendruggen I put together took longer than I expected, and I did scratch myself on one of the edges, but it didn't leave a scar.

Then again, that Yurgenblurzendausen I saw with the Plurj set... that could get nasty.

16 Nov 2012 01:26 PM
DasBeast     
I swear Ikea just names this shiat randomly to see if we'll actually call it by name.

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16 Nov 2012 01:29 PM
tbhouston     
wait, y'all get paid???? i have to put that stuff together for free

16 Nov 2012 01:46 PM
OldManDownDRoad     

TheRameres: OldManDownDRoad: trialpha: FTA: "Wagner said he hoped that Ikea and others would consider compensating former prisoners, many of whom carry psychological and physical scars from arduous labor they were forced to do."

Ah, fishing for money. I was wondering why this was brought up.

Yep. Any time you see a story like this, there's an "ask" in there somewhere. And if they say they just want "justice" you can be sure you'll see another story in the near future where "justice" is defined as a pay-out.

/and we all know who ends up with most of the money

What kind of scars do you get from building a Shlorbanen or a Fikkenduren?


I do have a few scars on my tongue from trying to tell the staff what kind of living room furniture I was looking for.

"I want a Funkengroven. No, wait, that's only in brown. How about a, a, a, fark it, too many vowels for me. What have you got in black leather, no matter what you call it?"

16 Nov 2012 01:46 PM
whither_apophis     

ringersol: Without their knowledge.
Despite explicit attempts to prevent it.
Thirty to fifty years ago.

I think it speaks to IKEA's corporate character that they even give a shiat about mistakes made decades ago.
US corporations usually can't be bothered to give a shiat about what mistakes they made *last quarter*.
Let alone bother to apologize or claim they won't repeat them.

Hell, even the very concept of a US corporation *having* character is laughable on its face.


I only wish my purchases would count as a charitiable donation.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011 /04/11/157682/ikea-thwarts-union s /?mobile=wp

16 Nov 2012 01:49 PM
mekkab     

jtown: I'll bet this bumps the value of old Ikea furniture if it can be authenticated as having been produced by East German prison labor.


An authentic East German Lack table can fetch anywhere from $4 to $40 dollars at the auctionhouse.


/And if you find an East German attytid in the attic, it could make you a hundred-dollar-aire overnight!

16 Nov 2012 01:49 PM
Diogenes Teufelsdrockh     
Old news...

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...or is it?

DUN DUN DUN!

16 Nov 2012 01:52 PM
pseydtonne     

jtown: I'll bet this bumps the value of old Ikea furniture if it can be authenticated as having been produced by East German prison labor.


Old. Ikea. furniture.

I know those words, but that phrase makes no sense.

/Yahoo Serious Festival
//the Ikea in Carson lets you take the cart all the way to your car, unlike in Burbank

16 Nov 2012 01:54 PM
Linoleum_Blownapart     

uttertosh: Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

* Or less if they're temp workers

or you could post something relevant to tfa.

Communist Germany political prisoners in forced labour camps, I'm quite sure, did not get any holidays or receive any payment.

/Though this was a 'snowflake' headline about Swedes making their own children assemble ikea furniture, with no candy reward.


Yes, I can see that Ikea's current labor issues have no relevance to their labor issues from the 80's. It's not like the same people are making these decisions.

16 Nov 2012 01:55 PM
Big Punisher     
Help me choose a punchline:

IKEA benefited from forced labor in the 80s more than A) Tracy Morgan B) Planned Parenthood C) the clothes hanger industry.

16 Nov 2012 01:57 PM
freetomato     

Random Discord: Um they were prisoners, not slaves.

I'm OK with it


I was just thinking that for our inmates in the US, I'd rather see the prisoners working and earning some money and self respect than spending all their time in the gym or learning how to be better criminals.

Behold - UNICOR.

16 Nov 2012 02:10 PM
BolshyGreatYarblocks     
How are those apologies for using Chinese Lao Gai slave labor coming along? Maybe a few decades into the future?

16 Nov 2012 02:24 PM
jshine     

Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!


Actually, I think its the "not being allowed to quit" that defines slavery. There are plenty of people who volunteer for charities and are paid $0/hour (and, of course, receive no paid vacation from the job), but would certainly not be classified as slaves -- simply because they have the option to quit, should they so-choose.

16 Nov 2012 02:36 PM
Dreyelle     

ringersol: Without their knowledge.
Despite explicit attempts to prevent it.
Thirty to fifty years ago.

I think it speaks to IKEA's corporate character that they even give a shiat about mistakes made decades ago.
US corporations usually can't be bothered to give a shiat about what mistakes they made *last quarter*.
Let alone bother to apologize or claim they won't repeat them.

Hell, even the very concept of a US corporation *having* character is laughable on its face.


Um, yeah...'cause they are admitting it out of the goodness of their hearts not because someone outed them. Did you RTFA?

16 Nov 2012 02:48 PM
RoyHobbs22     
IKEA crap has always been far easier to assemble than anything else for some reason. Maybe paying prisoners to draw pictures and arrows with no text is the way to go?

16 Nov 2012 03:06 PM
kimmygibblershomework     
Aww did Swedish Wal-Mart shed a solitary tear from its hairless, bleached anus? DIAF. Sauder furniture for yuppies. Have they ever looked into their Chinese manufacturers? Probably can't even visit them which says a lot. It is easier to visit an Eastern European prison labor camp than it is to visit a Chinese production factory. Same reason Amnesty International can eat a cack.

16 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
MythDragon     
That would explain why there is usualy several pieces missing. The prisoners where using them to build an escape tunnel.

I wonder how far they tunneled with my Goddamn Fastener B and two #7 shelf tabs.

16 Nov 2012 03:26 PM
uttertosh     

Linoleum_Blownapart: uttertosh: Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

* Or less if they're temp workers

or you could post something relevant to tfa.

Communist Germany political prisoners in forced labour camps, I'm quite sure, did not get any holidays or receive any payment.

/Though this was a 'snowflake' headline about Swedes making their own children assemble ikea furniture, with no candy reward.

Yes, I can see that Ikea's current labor issues have no relevance to their labor issues from the 80's. It's not like the same people are making these decisions.


jshine: Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

Actually, I think its the "not being allowed to quit" that defines slavery. There are plenty of people who volunteer for charities and are paid $0/hour (and, of course, receive no paid vacation from the job), but would certainly not be classified as slaves -- simply because they have the option to quit, should they so-choose.


Go read up about Stazi war 'criminals' and how super-duper they were treated, then come back and tell me that tfa bears any relevance to people getting money and paid leave for that work.

Next you'll be likening low-wage crop pickers in Sweden, to African 'cotton harvesters' in America before Emancipation.

EABOD, DIAF if you make this comparison, btw. For real, for real.

16 Nov 2012 04:33 PM
jshine     

uttertosh: jshine: Linoleum_Blownapart: Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!

Actually, I think its the "not being allowed to quit" that defines slavery. There are plenty of people who volunteer for charities and are paid $0/hour (and, of course, receive no paid vacation from the job), but would certainly not be classified as slaves -- simply because they have the option to quit, should they so-choose.

Go read up about Stazi war 'criminals' and how super-duper they were treated, then come back and tell me that tfa bears any relevance to people getting money and paid leave for that work.

Next you'll be likening low-wage crop pickers in Sweden, to African 'cotton harvesters' in America before Emancipation.

EABOD, DIAF if you make this comparison, btw. For real, for real.



I said that "slavery" is defined by ones inability to quit the job. In other words, its involuntary work (rather than unpaid work). I stand by that -- do you disagree? Your post, while sufficiently angry, wasn't particularly clear.

16 Nov 2012 05:38 PM
uttertosh     

jshine: I said that "slavery" is defined by ones inability to quit the job. In other words, its involuntary work (rather than unpaid work). I stand by that -- do you disagree?


"Just because they make $8/hour* and get less than a week of vacation per year doesn't make them slaves!" is what you said.

I'm in a paid job that I can't quit, as there's nothing else available to me, and get paid ~25% less than others I know in the same job overseas. Quitting would have me bankrupt and on the street within a month. Am I, therefore, a 'slave', like the political prisoners of the stasi in TFA, in your mind? Of course not, that comparison would be very silly, and borderline disrespectful of those prisoners. -- do you disagree?

Good luck with your ham and chalk sandwich. Do try the American orange pie for dessert!

16 Nov 2012 07:46 PM
coffee smells good     

Bluemoons: Ok, I rarely ever commment, but this is ridiculous. They were a burgeoning and expanding company at the time, and outsourced a little labor. They obviously had a system of checks and balances in place, and it failed, so they fixed it. End of story.




Please defend their being setup as a nonprofit to avoid paying taxes, yet "administrative expenses" are so large they don't make any charitable contributions.

/not a hipster so doesn't understand the appeal of particle board furniture

16 Nov 2012 07:51 PM
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