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JesseL: This is the stupidest article I've read all week. I wish I could determine whether the blame lies with the reporter or with the researchers.
doubled99: JesseL 2012-11-16 03:27:36 PMThis is the stupidest article I've read all week. I wish I could determine whether the blame lies with the reporter or with the researchersBut it's SCIENCEHow can you possibly disagree? Doctors trained in psychology used the scientific method. It's a fact..
JesseL: My question is answered. The researchers are stupid (or perhaps pushing an agenda that overrules their scruples).
JackieRabbit: OMFG! Does this include spanking the monkey?!?! I gotta get to work on my will.
draypresct: FTA:"Children physically abused, including spanking".In other words, if you put kids who have been spanked into a group that includes much more severely abused kids, the group as a whole has much higher risk of a number of health problems than children not in that group.Next up: People who drink, including both massive alcoholics and people who have 1 drink/year, are at a higher risk of liver disease than non-drinkers. Therefore, having 1 drink a year raises your risk of liver cancer.
loveblondieo: Damn, my husband gave me some cancer the other night.
JesseL: doubled99: JesseL 2012-11-16 03:27:36 PMAh here we go. http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6639Yes, and cardiac disease and asthma, too. Or so say Michael Hyland, Ahmed Alkhalaf, and Ben Whalley in the Journal of Behavioral Medicine. The press is already hot on this story.Here's how this statistical discovery was made. Our trio ventured to Saudi Arabia and gathered 150 patients (half men) suffering from asthma, then the same number of heart disease and cancer patients. Then they found 250 folks (half men) who did not so suffer. These healthy were culled from "nursing and administrative staff departments" at the same hospitals were the sick people were. All were between 40 and 60.They asked participants "Were you beaten as a child?" (they also looked at insults). Curiously (Table 2), 24 of the 450 sickies (5%) said they were beat "At least once a day." Maybe that's true, but golly that seems high. Anyway, 78% of the asthmatics were beat at least once; 93% of the cancerous were; and 75% of the cardiac patients were. Lo, only 55% of the healthy nurses and administrators were beaten.Theses numbers were fed into a fancy statistical model and it was decided that lack of spanking makes one healthy; or to put it another way, spanking causes cancer, asthma, and heart disease. Case closed?Perhaps there were other factors at play? Turns out (Table 1) that the healthy folks were on average younger than the sickies: 47 versus 50 (cancer), 53 (heart), and 50 (asthmatics). And then the healthy nurses and administrators had more eduction on average, too: 4.5 (higher is more) versus 3.4 (cancer), 2.6 (heart), and 3.4 (asthmatics).Same thing turned out to be true for the education of the participants' mothers: healthy people had more educated moms. And then the same thing turned out true yet again for the education of the participants' fathers, etc. Any other differences? We do learn that healthy people are nurses and administrators. We never learn what the sick people do.My question is answered. The researchers are stupid (or perhaps pushing an agenda that overrules their scruples)
Loreweaver: ...your average spanking has nothing to do with actual child abuse.
Day_Old_Dutchie: Correlation does not equal causation..But, generally, those from the lower socioeconomic classes (rednecks) who would tend to view violence as a solution, and therefore consider corporeal punishment 'normal' and tend to use tobacco in the house more rather than smoke outside, exposing their kids to secondhand smoke ergo cancer for the poor kids.
Dahnkster: [www.intriguing.com image 800x441]And here in Castle Anthrax, we have but one punishment for setting alight the grail-shaped beacon... cancer. I think I must have cast off about as million knuckle orphans pretending I was Galahad being offered all those spankings.
Theonceovertwice: And then, the oral sex!
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