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   "But if you live in France, you're used to being judged harshly"

19 Nov 2012 09:08 AM   |   6157 clicks   |   Telegraph
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LordOfThePings     
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19 Nov 2012 09:12 AM
JackieRabbit     
He should be bitterly disappointed in himself. These failures are, after all, his progeny and he taught them their values.

19 Nov 2012 09:13 AM
Father_Jack     
This is what makes news in Britain now? An email from an angry father?

Glad to see the US isnt the only country in the world whose news media is slowly circling the drain.

19 Nov 2012 09:14 AM
LewDux     
Daughter defends area man who told children he was 'bitterly disappointed' in them

19 Nov 2012 09:15 AM
vudukungfu    [TotalFark]  
A real man would choke back his ego and tell his kids he was proud of them.
they aren't junkies or thieves.
He could have done worse.

cheese eating surrender monkeys
If it wasn't for their hot women, wine, excellent food, and faboo artists, they would be nothing.

19 Nov 2012 09:21 AM
Snarfangel     

LewDux: Daughter defends area man who told children he was 'bitterly disappointed' in them


Speaking of Area Man (Superpower: appearing in news stories), I don't see him around too often. Did he finally run afoul of the law one too many times?

19 Nov 2012 09:23 AM
NutWrench     
But if you live in France, you're used to being judged harshly."

I think it was Jean-Paul Sartre who said, "Hell is other people" and he should know since he was from France.

19 Nov 2012 09:24 AM
Holocaust Agnostic     

Father_Jack: This is what makes news in Britain now? An email from an angry father?

Glad to see the US isnt the only country in the world whose news media is slowly circling the drain.


Circling?

Slowly??!

19 Nov 2012 09:24 AM
padraig     

vudukungfu: If it wasn't for their hot women, wine, excellent food, and faboo artists, they would be nothing.


Don't forget existential ennui.

19 Nov 2012 09:24 AM
Englebert Slaptyback    [TotalFark]  

The 67-year-old former Royal Navy officer said his "beautiful" grandchildren had parents who lacked maturity and sound judgment. "It makes us weak that so many of these events are copulation-driven, and then helpless to see these lovely little people being so woefully let down by you, their parents," he wrote.
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Mr Crews's email to Mrs Crews-Montes, and her younger siblings Alice, 38, and Fred, 35, included criticism that despite their private education they had "contrived to avoid even moderate achievement". He signed off by saying he did not want to hear any more from them until they had "a success or an achievement" or a realistic plan for the support and happiness of their own children to report.


To be fair, his kids are (or should be) old enough to have their acts together. If they were in their early 20s I'd say he was being too harsh.

I'm just wondering why anyone felt it needed to be published.

19 Nov 2012 09:25 AM
unchellmatt    [TotalFark]  
First.... She published this email? So, she felt the need to publish not only that she's a whiny little failure, but that her is a critical douchebag? What his children did with their lives is their business, not his, and what they "achieve" or don't is also none of his business.

IF she felt the same way and that they needed a "kick in the pants", swell... But how that shiat is news is completely beyond me.

It's starting to sound more and more like The Onion has invaded real life. I'm waiting for the day I read that some guy in Manchester had a really really bad pudding.

Oh yeah, and French...

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19 Nov 2012 09:26 AM
doubled99     
This is very important. What is Obama doing about it?

19 Nov 2012 09:27 AM
mhd     
TFA: "She said her father's email did not upset her because she had already begun to turn her life around when she received it in February. She had set up a business and had started translating a French self-help book into English."

I smell a homebrew viral marketing campaign.

19 Nov 2012 09:30 AM
freewill    [TotalFark]  
Are we not over the self-esteem movement yet?

19 Nov 2012 09:33 AM
topcon     
Hey, let's not confuse Paris attitudes with the rest of the country.

19 Nov 2012 09:34 AM
willfullyobscure     

vudukungfu: A real man would choke back his ego and tell his kids he was proud of them.
they aren't junkies or thieves.
He could have done worse.


"could have done worse" isn't what successful people aim for, little Billy. His kids are over forty and they are completely useless, and they're going to be a burden on the state in a few more decades. I'd say his disappointment is pretty warranted. Sorry your parents didn't love you enough to care how you turned out.

19 Nov 2012 09:37 AM
freewill    [TotalFark]  

vudukungfu: A real man would choke back his ego and tell his kids he was proud of them.
they aren't junkies or thieves.
He could have done worse.



"I'm not a criminal or a drug addict" is not an accomplishment. That's just something you're expected to manage no matter what. There is no prize for it.

19 Nov 2012 09:40 AM
Deep Contact     
Looks like dad was away a lot playing submarine captain.

19 Nov 2012 09:44 AM
sodomizer     
Good for her. She's taking charge of her life, which will benefit her.

I agree with Deep_Contact's implied point, which is that in "privileged" families, Moms and Dads are generally dedicated to their careers and essentially leave their children to be raised by wolves.

While that's a tragedy, the solution is to take charge and do something great with your life, especially something that uses your above-average skills.

Even if it doesn't piss Dad off as much as ripping bong hits and having unprotected sex in stairwells and alleways.

19 Nov 2012 09:52 AM
error 303     
It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.

19 Nov 2012 09:54 AM
sid2112     
If only more parents were like this one. Sometimes you need admonishment so you can take a critical look at yourself. I'm an old man now, but when I was younger, my Dad took me to breakfast one morning and told me that he wasn't happy about where I was in life. He said that I needed to shape up and get myself into focus. I told me that I was better than that and if I wanted to remain a part of the family, I should prove it. That was the single best moment in my life. I did what he told me. I shaped up, got myself straightened out, and I live a good life. I owe all of that to my hard work brought on by a Dad who wasn't scared to say "I'm disappointed in you".

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I got all the beers, just like Dad said.

19 Nov 2012 09:54 AM
mrlewish     
"He complained that he and his wife, Sarah, were "constantly regaled" with stories of the "happy, successful" lives of the families of friends and relatives but had nothing to say about their own children which reflected any credit on them. "

Oh please, do you think they tell you the bad crap about their kids?

19 Nov 2012 09:57 AM
Ebbelwoi     
Some people might consider "marrying a surgeon" a fairly bright career move and an achievement itself.

19 Nov 2012 10:03 AM
Phil Moskowitz     
Maybe being a self involved absentee father obsessed with career and being away most of their life had some bearing on that.

Stupid prick.

19 Nov 2012 10:24 AM
computerguyUT     
"But if you live in France, you're used to being a judgemental elite prick"

There...fixed it.

19 Nov 2012 10:32 AM
SkunkWerks     
So, um... Better late than never?

19 Nov 2012 10:37 AM
SkunkWerks     

SkunkWerks: So, um... Better late than never?


Incidentally, I don't really know whether dad was over-critical or under-critical here, and I'm not willing to address it one way or the other. One e-mail well after the fact tells me almost nothing about how things came to this particular juncture.

I do think it's kinda funny though that he seems to think glowering at them this late in the game will make a huge difference. It's almost as if he seems to believe that he- as a parent- hasn't been at least partly responsible for setting the stage for his childrens' success or failure for quite a number of years (a charge he seems to have no trouble leveling at them regarding the care of his grandchildren- so we at least know he understands how the dynamic works).

I don't know if he's right, wrong, or somewhere in the middle. He does sound like quite the prick though, in any event.

19 Nov 2012 10:46 AM
bratface     
Seems like most of you DRTFA.

19 Nov 2012 01:18 PM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  
Et pas une foutre a été donné, ce jour-là.

19 Nov 2012 01:44 PM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  

bratface: Seems like most of you DRTFA.


Oh, come on! It's a Daily Telegraph article!

Don't act so surprised!

; )

19 Nov 2012 01:47 PM
SkunkWerks     

bratface: Seems like most of you DRTFA.


Article? I was pretty certain the only text I saw in there in there was captions for the half-a-dozen or more GIANT pictures that generally comprise most "articles" in most of Murdoch's Brit-Rags.

19 Nov 2012 03:21 PM
bratface     
I saw the article at another site. What I meant by the remark was the fact that those children deserved everything he said. Mainly he was trying to shield their mother from the constant phone calls 'whinging' about how their lives were s**t.

19 Nov 2012 04:07 PM
Eutychus     

mhd: TFA: "She said her father's email did not upset her because she had already begun to turn her life around when she received it in February. She had set up a business and had started translating a French self-help book into English."

I smell a homebrew viral marketing campaign.


I smell competition. I am a freelance translator living in the same region of France, so I'm really getting a kick, etc etc.

19 Nov 2012 04:38 PM
ModernLuddite     
"Hello, local newspaper? My father said harsh things to me. Can you publish this?"

"Sure. *takes bong hit*"

19 Nov 2012 05:08 PM
Bronzemom     
French sub captain need we say more.

19 Nov 2012 07:21 PM
SkunkWerks     

bratface: Mainly he was trying to shield their mother from the constant phone calls 'whinging' about how their lives were s**t.


So... that worked out brilliantly, eh?

And, if I'm not mistaken, it was mother who made the letter public, yes?

So, I'm not going to rescind so much as augment my earlier statement: The whole family sounds like a bunch of pricks.

20 Nov 2012 07:10 AM
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