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   Hamas fires rocket from Gaza at Jerusalem, misses and ends up hitting Palestinian held West Bank

20 Nov 2012 12:20 PM   |   5654 clicks   |   Reuters
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I_C_Weener    [TotalFark]  
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"That's what you call ironic."

20 Nov 2012 12:02 PM
Arkanaut    [TotalFark]  

I_C_Weener: "That's what you call ironic."


It would be, assuming Hamas actually gave a damn about dead Palestinians.

20 Nov 2012 12:22 PM
SDRR     
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20 Nov 2012 12:22 PM
iheartscotch     
Sometimes you eat the bar; sometimes the bar eats you.

20 Nov 2012 12:22 PM
Itstoearly     
Hey Hamas, stop hitting yourself

20 Nov 2012 12:23 PM
182     
hamas is the keystone cops of terrorists.

20 Nov 2012 12:23 PM
Rapmaster2000    [TotalFark]  
No, that's actually a success from Hamas' perspective.

Who run West Bank?

20 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
strangeguitar     

Itstoearly: Hey Hamas, stop hitting yourself


Damn!

*shakes sexy fist*

20 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
stevarooni    [TotalFark]  

Arkanaut: It would be, assuming Hamas actually gave a damn about dead Palestinians.


Hamas cares a lot about dead Palestinians! Why, they're Hamas' bread and butter.

20 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
Rhames     
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So what about this poster then?

20 Nov 2012 12:25 PM
HelloNeuman     
"I meant to do that"


PwH

20 Nov 2012 12:25 PM
Deep Contact     
You get what you pay for.

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     
Obi Wan was right, sand people are horrible shotsm

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
limeyfellow     
Wow, unguided missiles with no accuracy sometimes miss their targets drastically. We have to remember that most of Hamas' weaponry was invented over 50 years ago and designed to be cheap and disposable. They are a small guerrilla force fighting against a standing army. At least they aren't using IEDs targeted properly to gain maximum casualties.

Really Hamas sucks. Even Hezbollah are far more capable,

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
Beeblebrox    [TotalFark]  

Rapmaster2000: No, that's actually a success from Hamas' perspective.

Who run West Bank?


Master Blaster.

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
Idoto     
When your guidance system is launch angle and fuel amount there is some trial and error.

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
shpritz     
How strange that Iron Dome failed in this case.

20 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
Tat'dGreaser     

Itstoearly: Hey Hamas, stop hitting yourself


Now that made me laugh

20 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
Darth_Lukecash    [TotalFark]  
it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...

20 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
legion_of_doo     

Rapmaster2000: No, that's actually a success from Hamas' perspective.

Who run West Bank?


They only admit this one because it supposedly didn't blow up any Arabs. They'd still qualify as martyrs if they did get blown up, I think, but maybe it's cleaner if the Jews clearly blow them up. Then, it's martyrdom all the way! Woohoo!

See, I wonder why that BBC cameraman's house got hit, and what it was hit with.

It could have been some kind of unsubtle Jew hit on a BBC cameraman. It could have been a stray rocket from the "good guys".

In any case, shame on everyone over there for everything.

20 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
BronyMedic     

shpritz: How strange that Iron Dome failed in this case.


IIRC, Iron Dome only has like a 25% kill rate against the smaller rockets. It's far more effective against the larger missiles that HAMAS gets from it's friends in the middle east, and actual Tactical and Theater Ballistic Missiles.

20 Nov 2012 12:28 PM
bluelancer03     
Step 1: Redesign the Iron Dome intercept system to redirect the trajectory of rockets and mortars back into Gaza.

Problem solved. No further steps required.

20 Nov 2012 12:28 PM
sefert     
Also, a interesting reminder just how damn tiny the whole area is. I live in a city of 50,000, and it's bigger than gaza...

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
shpritz     

Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...


In this case it's because the other side has a weapons system that only works 1/3 of the time.

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
Beeblebrox    [TotalFark]  

Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...

From what I read on Fark, it's not designed to shoot all of them down. It's only designed to intercept ones that are headed for populated areas. At that, it works pretty damn well.

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
Tat'dGreaser     

Darth_Lukecash: Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...


Unfortunately for them they purchased them at an Iranian liquidation sale. It was the wacky inflatable flailing arms tube man that brought them in.

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
Tatsuma     
Yeah had to run again today. It's really annoying.

As far as why the Iron Dome has a low rocket interception rate: it only fires on rockets that will actually reach inside cities, not those that will fall in the middle of nowhere

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
Arkanaut    [TotalFark]  

Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...


You're discounting the possibility that the other 65 landed in the desert.

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
shpritz     

BronyMedic: shpritz: How strange that Iron Dome failed in this case.

IIRC, Iron Dome only has like a 25% kill rate against the smaller rockets. It's far more effective against the larger missiles that HAMAS gets from it's friends in the middle east, and actual Tactical and Theater Ballistic Missiles.


The smaller rockets have a range of a few kilometers. Not enough to hit the West Bank.

20 Nov 2012 12:29 PM
ChipNASA    [TotalFark]  

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20 Nov 2012 12:31 PM
mrr0ng     
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Their missiles are FABULOUS.

20 Nov 2012 12:31 PM
Mr.Sharpy     

Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...


I understand that the radars that power Iron Dome determine if the trajectory of a rocket will take it to a populated area, and it selectively engages those only. Everything else is allowed to pass through.

20 Nov 2012 12:32 PM
Rich Cream     

stevarooni: Arkanaut: It would be, assuming Hamas actually gave a damn about dead Palestinians.

Hamas cares a lot about dead Palestinians! Why, they're Hamas' bread and butter.


One could say the same thing about Israel and dead Jews, if one were to have a mind that thinks like that.


Tatsuma: Yeah had to run again today. It's really annoying.

As far as why the Iron Dome has a low rocket interception rate: it only fires on rockets that will actually reach inside cities, not those that will fall in the middle of nowhere


How can they tell how much fuel is in the rocket?

20 Nov 2012 12:32 PM
BronyMedic     

shpritz: The smaller rockets have a range of a few kilometers. Not enough to hit the West Bank.


Don't the Israelis also use ground based CIWS systems built around the Phalanyx system the US Navy uses for short range rockets and mortar interceptions?

20 Nov 2012 12:32 PM
Sasquach     
Christ guys, this isn't rocket sci....

20 Nov 2012 12:34 PM
Harv72b     

Rapmaster2000: Who run West Bank?


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Master Blaster run West Bank!

20 Nov 2012 12:35 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

bluelancer03: Step 1: Redesign the Iron Dome intercept system to redirect the trajectory of rockets and mortars back into Gaza.

Problem solved. No further steps required.


So murdering innocent Gazan children is fine by you?

20 Nov 2012 12:35 PM
shpritz     

BronyMedic: shpritz: The smaller rockets have a range of a few kilometers. Not enough to hit the West Bank.

Don't the Israelis also use ground based CIWS systems built around the Phalanyx system the US Navy uses for short range rockets and mortar interceptions?


No idea. What I do know is that any rocket that reaches the West Bank has to be at least a Grad and probably a Fajr and those are the ones that Iron Dome has been hitting consistently.

I was just kidding in my premier post but now that I think about it, it wouldn't be that surprising that they didn't think to input Palestinian towns into the software it uses to know when to intercept.

20 Nov 2012 12:37 PM
hdhale     

shpritz: How strange that Iron Dome failed in this case.


Your assumption is that the Palestinians in that part of the region have ever wanted Israeli help...or had the common sense enough to simply ask.

20 Nov 2012 12:39 PM
Duke_leto_Atredes     
good goood

drop one on the dome of the rock while you are at it.

// the ned time are upon us brothers embrace the return of our lord

20 Nov 2012 12:39 PM
smitty04     

Beeblebrox: Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...
From what I read on Fark, it's not designed to shoot all of them down. It's only designed to intercept ones that are headed for populated areas. At that, it works pretty damn well.


It only shoots down the ones that are on course to hit a populated area. 90% hit rate on those.

20 Nov 2012 12:40 PM
sabreWulf07     

Rich Cream: As far as why the Iron Dome has a low rocket interception rate: it only fires on rockets that will actually reach inside cities, not those that will fall in the middle of nowhere

How can they tell how much fuel is in the rocket?


Rockets will follow a predictable ballistic trajectory. These are not cruise missiles.

20 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
ocschwar     
How can they tell how much fuel is in the rocket?


Easy. These rockets spend their fuel in the first 5 seconds. After that, it's freefall all the way.

20 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
Rich Cream     
How can the Iron Dome be selective when targeting incoming rockets when the incoming rockets are unguided and fly somewhat erratically? You can't tell where it's going to end up, you have to shoot at all of them. 

/or am I looking at the wrong-sized picture? Now I have to go and find out how this thing is deployed.
//They told me there would be no learning.

20 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
bluelancer03     

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: bluelancer03: Step 1: Redesign the Iron Dome intercept system to redirect the trajectory of rockets and mortars back into Gaza.

Problem solved. No further steps required.

So murdering innocent Gazan children is fine by you?


I thought the narrative was that these rockets aren't actually hurting anyone.

20 Nov 2012 12:42 PM
taliesinwi     

Darth_Lukecash: it was one of 95 rockets launched into Israel on Wednesday. Thirty of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome system

Wow. If I'd have a defense system that only worked 1/3 of the time- I'd ask for my money back...


Actually it doesn't bother shooting down rockets that aren't going to hit areas it cares about. Those missiles cost $100K per and they're not going to waste them on rockets that are going to splash down a mile out to sea. That's why its success rate is north of 85% for rockets it actually has to defend against.

20 Nov 2012 12:43 PM
The Larch     

shpritz: BronyMedic: shpritz: How strange that Iron Dome failed in this case.

IIRC, Iron Dome only has like a 25% kill rate against the smaller rockets. It's far more effective against the larger missiles that HAMAS gets from it's friends in the middle east, and actual Tactical and Theater Ballistic Missiles.

The smaller rockets have a range of a few kilometers. Not enough to hit the West Bank.


Apparently, they've been firing them without any type of payload so that they'll go farther.

Basically, they realized that lobbing six foot long pieces of hardware store pipe with a tiny amount of explosives into a random location in Israel was mostly pointless. So now the took out the explosives, and now the pipes from the hardware store fall over a larger random area.

20 Nov 2012 12:44 PM
Mr.Sharpy     
This is a pretty radical idea, but I'm going to say it anyway. Obviously, this region causes nothing but trouble. It has for millennia. It doesn't matter who holds the territory at any given time, someone else always feels like they have an entitlement to it and is willing to kill for it. These conflicts and tensions spill out into the wider world and make every one of us less safe. Just look at our history. This land has been made figuratively uninhabitable by the blood of a hundred cultures spilled upon it.

I believe that a coalition of world powers should come together, and agree that this land is too contentious, because of its history, for anyone to hold. Every man, woman, child, dog, cat and goat should be evacuated and absorbed into the rest of the world, and then we render Israel and Gaza literally uninhabitable. Salt the earth there. Make it so that no one may set foot within its former borders without dying for a thousand years.

I know that it's the holy land for multiple cultures, but the locality of that is irrelevant. It's the ideas that those locations represent that are important to your religion, and you will get over it.

20 Nov 2012 12:44 PM
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20 Nov 2012 12:45 PM
Rich Cream     

sabreWulf07: Rich Cream: As far as why the Iron Dome has a low rocket interception rate: it only fires on rockets that will actually reach inside cities, not those that will fall in the middle of nowhere

How can they tell how much fuel is in the rocket?

Rockets will follow a predictable ballistic trajectory. These are not cruise missiles.


Fair enough. I figure the defense is set up more for locally than border-ly too. This way you only go for the ones within a smaller angle of direction from source. That's what I was going to go find out. 

/I imagine tinfoil-wrapped match rockets, with some fins, as far as control is concerned.

20 Nov 2012 12:46 PM
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