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   "Texas day care owner gets 80 years in fire that killed four kids". Seems a bit much, she'll probably burn to death in the first three or four minutes, anyway

20 Nov 2012 07:56 PM   |   4430 clicks   |   CNN
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Delawheredad    [TotalFark]  
So the question is does Ms. Tata have bodacious ones?

20 Nov 2012 07:59 PM
cepson     
Well that will teach people not to forget things.

20 Nov 2012 08:02 PM
TommieFunk     
Fled to Nigeria... Did she know a prince there or something?

And since the article didn't have a picture of Jessica Tata...
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/Damn you misleading name.

20 Nov 2012 08:13 PM
pottie     

TommieFunk: Fled to Nigeria... Did she know a prince there or something?

And since the article didn't have a picture of Jessica Tata...
[www.defendernetwork.com image 400x267]


/Damn you misleading name.

Tommie, look up

20 Nov 2012 08:16 PM
caddisfly     
80 years would be appropriate if she soaked the kids in gas and threw a match. She did three things wrong: left the kids unattended; 2) left a pan on the stove; and 3) fled justice. The rest of the facts are simply a tragedy for all involved, and she was just 22 when it happened. The cherry on top is the fine. Throwing in a $10,000 fine for a kid's life is just inane.

This POS battered an infant to death and got 15 years. Link Then again, it wasn't Texas.

20 Nov 2012 08:16 PM
bugontherug     
The SAME fire?

I guess there's some justice in that.

20 Nov 2012 08:18 PM
spidermilk     

cepson: Well that will teach people not to forget things.


It isn't just that she forgot and left a pan of oil on the stove. It was that she left kids at her daycare completely unsupervised. She was watching seven children and left them unsupervised. How complicated is this?

She didn't forget she was watching seven kids. She though 'oh, they'll be okay' and left them alone. Four of them died in a fire because of her negligence.

20 Nov 2012 08:20 PM
Apos     
I hardly expected.....

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but damn, I'd hoped for something better than:

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20 Nov 2012 08:21 PM
willfullyobscure     
Who is surprised she's Nigerian? Outside side of Moroccans and South Africans, I have never met a people so willing to lie, cheat, steal, cut corners and biatch and moan about every. last. little thing. Hell, at least the Ugandans and Kenyans work their asses off while they lie to you and complain. Nigerians, my god, its like entitlement is genetic. If you gave a Nigerian a pot to piss in they'd sell the pot to the neighbors for beer, and then blame you for the puke in their shoes.

Moroccans I have a special kind of hate for.

20 Nov 2012 08:27 PM
buckler    [TotalFark]  
A woman convicted of murder in the 2011 deaths of four children...

That's a lot of deaths for just four children.

20 Nov 2012 08:30 PM
Arcangela     
willfullyobscure Who is surprised she's Nigerian?

I just thought she was a welfare queen.

20 Nov 2012 08:32 PM
mittromneysdog     

bugontherug: The SAME fire?

I guess there's some justice in that.


I guess. What doesn't make sense to me though, is why nobody has put it out by now.

20 Nov 2012 08:33 PM
mat catastrophe     

buckler: A woman convicted of murder in the 2011 deaths of four children...

That's a lot of deaths for just four children.


better than the headline...

/+1 internet

20 Nov 2012 08:33 PM
davidphogan     

cepson: Well that will teach people not to forget things.


She didn't start the fire? Was it always burning since the world's been turning?

20 Nov 2012 08:33 PM
Guest     
One thing I hate about these stories is how the call it a day care center, which often leads to people complaining about how awful day care centers are and how your children are not safe. They need to distinguish between a baby sitter which she is and a proper day care center.

A baby sitter often called family day care is usually one woman alone with children
A day care center is a properly run business and has the following.

1. A manager.
2. A cook
3. A worker for every 3 children under 2 and a worker for every 5 children between the ages of 2 to 4
4 A worker for every 10 children up to the ages of 5.
5. An accredited learning program.
6. At least one university educated staff member in each of the rooms
7 An accredited kindergarten program for children aged between 4 and 5.

There is no way in the world this could have happened at a day care. Please start calling women at home alone who take care of children what they are baby sitters.

20 Nov 2012 08:38 PM
mooseyfate     

caddisfly: 80 years would be appropriate if she soaked the kids in gas and threw a match. She did three things wrong: left the kids unattended; 2) left a pan on the stove; and 3) fled justice. The rest of the facts are simply a tragedy for all involved, and she was just 22 when it happened. The cherry on top is the fine. Throwing in a $10,000 fine for a kid's life is just inane.

This POS battered an infant to death and got 15 years. Link Then again, it wasn't Texas.


Look at it this way: For 80 years she won't be able to reproduce and further pass along her idiot genes. Something tells me the 80 years is more because of the fleeing the country than it was for the negligence. There's something to be said for the kind of person that would accidentally kill 4 kids than try to escape responsibility when "responsibility" was literally 90% of her chosen job....

/the other 10% was boiling oil on a stove at a farking DAY CARE, apparently

20 Nov 2012 08:38 PM
mooseyfate     

Guest: One thing I hate about these stories is how the call it a day care center, which often leads to people complaining about how awful day care centers are and how your children are not safe. They need to distinguish between a baby sitter which she is and a proper day care center.

A baby sitter often called family day care is usually one woman alone with children
A day care center is a properly run business and has the following.

1. A manager.
2. A cook
3. A worker for every 3 children under 2 and a worker for every 5 children between the ages of 2 to 4
4 A worker for every 10 children up to the ages of 5.
5. An accredited learning program.
6. At least one university educated staff member in each of the rooms
7 An accredited kindergarten program for children aged between 4 and 5.

There is no way in the world this could have happened at a day care. Please start calling women at home alone who take care of children what they are baby sitters.


Doesn't stop them from advertising themselves as "Day Care Centers". Honestly, I think that in order to legally call yourself a Day Care, you should meet all the requirements that you listed above. Not one. Not two. ALL of them. Your filthy house is NOT a day care just because you put those little plastic covers over the electrical outlets. Something tells me this winner didn't even go that far.

/who the fark leaves oil boiling on a stove while you leave the house?
//A goddamn tragedy for the families that their kids had to pay for this one woman's outstanding farking stupidity

20 Nov 2012 08:43 PM
bigstoopidbruce     
This I don't get. Mrs Bruce babysits a 1-year old three days a week. That child literally never leaves her sight. If she goes to the bathroom she places him in his play pen or excer-saucer and summons me to the room to keep an eye on him. Heck, I'm a knuckle-dragging man and I know you don't leave a baby alone for a moment. Even if we give Ms Tata the benefit of the doubt and assume she mistakenly left the stove on, who says "Hey, the three-year old can watch the one-year old; Momma wants to check to see if they have my book at Chez-Target."? Even a totally ignorant person should know this. It no makey sense.

20 Nov 2012 08:49 PM
sandbar67     
willfullyobscure: ...and then blame you for the puke in their shoes. 

That's because I just puked in their shoes.

20 Nov 2012 09:11 PM
buckler    [TotalFark]  

bigstoopidbruce: This I don't get. Mrs Bruce babysits a 1-year old three days a week. That child literally never leaves her sight. If she goes to the bathroom she places him in his play pen or excer-saucer and summons me to the room to keep an eye on him. Heck, I'm a knuckle-dragging man and I know you don't leave a baby alone for a moment. Even if we give Ms Tata the benefit of the doubt and assume she mistakenly left the stove on, who says "Hey, the three-year old can watch the one-year old; Momma wants to check to see if they have my book at Chez-Target."? Even a totally ignorant person should know this. It no makey sense.


Hell, that's the rule when watching school-age children. When I was supervising other counselors, I'd "steal away" one of their kids. If they never noticed, they'd get an ass-chewing. For babies and toddlers, I'd be triply-vigilant.

20 Nov 2012 09:11 PM
signaljammer     
The English invented 'felony murder' and even they can't stomach handing it out anymore.

20 Nov 2012 09:19 PM
BarkingUnicorn     
This isn't a good girl who made an isolated mistake.

Tata had a juvenile conviction for two counts of arson. Link

She lied about it on her license application and Texas DCF missed it in the background check.

"Lisa Hayes, a Houston fire department arson investigator who in 2003 taught a fire prevention class that Tata had to take after her arson case, told jurors Tata didn't seem concerned that individuals could have been injured by the fires she started.

"Tata "said she didn't care about hurting other people," Hayes said."

"Jurors were also shown photographs of the burns suffered by two of three children who were injured but survived the fire. The photos were of 22-month-old DaJohn Ashley, who suffered burns on 22 percent of his body, and 2-year-old Makayla Dickerson, who suffered burns on 15 percent of her body; both children had to undergo multiple surgeries."

And that is how you get 80 years!

I don't give a fark about the $10K fine because it won't go to the victims.

20 Nov 2012 09:22 PM
Rapmaster2000    [TotalFark]  
I suppose my tax dollars will have to pay for this fire.

20 Nov 2012 09:26 PM
karmachameleon     

Guest: One thing I hate about these stories is how the call it a day care center, which often leads to people complaining about how awful day care centers are and how your children are not safe. They need to distinguish between a baby sitter which she is and a proper day care center.

A baby sitter often called family day care is usually one woman alone with children
A day care center is a properly run business and has the following.

1. A manager.
2. A cook
3. A worker for every 3 children under 2 and a worker for every 5 children between the ages of 2 to 4
4 A worker for every 10 children up to the ages of 5.
5. An accredited learning program.
6. At least one university educated staff member in each of the rooms
7 An accredited kindergarten program for children aged between 4 and 5.

There is no way in the world this could have happened at a day care. Please start calling women at home alone who take care of children what they are baby sitters.


When I was a kid, my single mother ran a day care out of our house, so I'm getting a kick...no, wait a second, I'm not getting a kick out of your reply. Just some pity that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Yes, a professional day care center has the things you listed. That's why my mom called her business a "home day care", and that's why this article listed this day care as such. Suffice it to say the woman in the article didn't put nearly as much time, care and attention into her day care as my mother did into hers, so maybe all she did do was "babysit". But let's not paint all home day cares with the same brush while we're at it, eh? My mom was the manager, caretaker and cook. She ran her own books, she provided accredited education, and she served generous meals according to the best nutrition information of the day (this was the 1970s/early 1980s). She never sat down to watch TV and eat bon-bons while the rugrats played with toys idly on the floor. She was always involved and basically treated them like her own kids, keeping them busy from morning to night. I am sure that there are many home day cares that are run with the same level of professionalism and quality child care that my mom endeavored to provide, so let's not take one bad story and run with it as if all home day cares function at the same level.

20 Nov 2012 09:33 PM
willfullyobscure     

sandbar67: willfullyobscure: ...and then blame you for the puke in their shoes. 

That's because I just puked in their shoes.


Yo know 419 Eaters and how some people get all huffy becuase it's edumacated white folk humiliating po Africans just trying to get ahead? I love it. They deserve every bit of shame and scorn they get. Nigerians are born lazy, born criminal and born liars.

20 Nov 2012 09:34 PM
BarkingUnicorn     
Holy Fark, it gets worse the more I research this case! Link

First, she went to Walmart. Then to Target to return a pair of pants.

At Target, she told the customer service manager she'd left oil on the stove with kids in the house and asked him if he thought that was OK.

Then she went to Starbucks.

She told firefighters she was in the bathroom when the fire broke out.

She told firefighters there were nine kids in the house, but there were only seven. Firefighters risked their lives searching for two kids who weren't there.

On the bright side: "Tata faces three additional counts of murder, three counts of abandoning a child and two counts of reckless injury to a child. Trials on those charges have not yet been scheduled."

20 Nov 2012 09:35 PM
BroncoFan_17     
Kill four kids and get to spend the rest of your life with a bunch of other dykes, get served three meals a day, have someone else do your laundry, and get free medical care. Compared to living in the ghetto, she'll be living like a "queen".

20 Nov 2012 09:52 PM
GeeksAreMyPeeps    [TotalFark]  

buckler: A woman convicted of murder in the 2011 deaths of four children...

That's a lot of deaths for just four children.


Well done! Thanks for the laugh.

karmachameleon: Yes, a professional day care center has the things you listed. That's why my mom called her business a "home day care", and that's why this article listed this day care as such. Suffice it to say the woman in the article didn't put nearly as much time, care and attention into her day care as my mother did into hers, so maybe all she did do was "babysit". But let's not paint all home day cares with the same brush while we're at it, eh?


There's nothing in the comment you're replying to that "paint[s] all home day cares with the same brush." Seems clear to me that what's being said is that it's a crapshoot as to whether you're going to get decent care for your children with home care.

20 Nov 2012 09:54 PM
buckler    [TotalFark]  

GeeksAreMyPeeps: buckler: A woman convicted of murder in the 2011 deaths of four children...

That's a lot of deaths for just four children.

Well done! Thanks for the laugh.


And thanks back for the TF! Hat-tip, sir!!

20 Nov 2012 10:04 PM
Nordschleife    [TotalFark]  
Why don't they bring back this punishment for certain types of criminals?

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20 Nov 2012 10:14 PM
RogermcAllen     

Nordschleife: Why don't they bring back this punishment for certain types of criminals?

[images.wikia.com image 450x347]


It's mean to the horse, unless you did it with one of those creepy walking dog robots.

20 Nov 2012 10:18 PM
Kibbler     
If only she'd been ordained a Catholic priest!

20 Nov 2012 10:24 PM
Mouser     

BroncoFan_17: Kill four kids and get to spend the rest of your life with a bunch of other dykes, get served three meals a day, have someone else do your laundry, and get free medical care. Compared to living in the ghetto, she'll be living like a "queen".


If you think kiddy-killers have a hard time in prison, imagine what a female kiddy-killer's life would be like in a woman's prison.

They don't call women the more dangerous of the species for nothing.

20 Nov 2012 10:34 PM
buckler    [TotalFark]  

Mouser: BroncoFan_17: Kill four kids and get to spend the rest of your life with a bunch of other dykes, get served three meals a day, have someone else do your laundry, and get free medical care. Compared to living in the ghetto, she'll be living like a "queen".

If you think kiddy-killers have a hard time in prison, imagine what a female kiddy-killer's life would be like in a woman's prison.

They don't call women the more dangerous of the species for nothing.


Ai! Maternal instincts plus proven criminal tendencies? I shudder to think.

20 Nov 2012 10:36 PM
Hector Remarkable    [TotalFark]  
80 years is a long time indeed to be in a fire, but I fully support the notion, in principle, of sentencing people to a certain amount of time in a fire. If your crime wasn't too bad, yeah, only an hour or two in the fire, but if we really don't like you, it's weeks, months, or even years.
In the fire.

20 Nov 2012 10:45 PM
Commissioner for Oaths     

mat catastrophe: buckler: A woman convicted of murder in the 2011 deaths of four children...

That's a lot of deaths for just four children.

better than the headline...

/+1 internet


Yup. OId and predictable headline structure is old and predictable.

20 Nov 2012 10:45 PM
obamadidcoke     
She left the children alone and left a pan of grease heating on the stove. Four children died in a fire and she only got 80 years. She should have gotten the death penalty. We can only hope that some inmate corrects this miscarriage of justice.

21 Nov 2012 12:11 AM
gsmphoto     
We knew one of the families who lost a child to this tragedy. 80's about right for her negligence and attempt to flee her responsibility.

21 Nov 2012 12:22 AM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  

BroncoFan_17: Kill four kids and get to spend the rest of your life with a bunch of other dykes, get served three meals a day, have someone else do your laundry, and get free medical care. Compared to living in the ghetto, she'll be living like a "queen".


Actually, probably not. Those convicted of hurting children are considered scum, the lowest of the low by other inmates. There's a good chance this woman will not end up in general population.

21 Nov 2012 02:25 AM
Gonz     

obamadidcoke: She should have gotten the death penalty.


She's facing 3 more murder counts, and this is Texas. Give the system a chance to work. We'll get there eventually.

21 Nov 2012 07:04 AM
karmachameleon     

GeeksAreMyPeeps: karmachameleon: Yes, a professional day care center has the things you listed. That's why my mom called her business a "home day care", and that's why this article listed this day care as such. Suffice it to say the woman in the article didn't put nearly as much time, care and attention into her day care as my mother did into hers, so maybe all she did do was "babysit". But let's not paint all home day cares with the same brush while we're at it, eh?

There's nothing in the comment you're replying to that "paint[s] all home day cares with the same brush." Seems clear to me that what's being said is that it's a crapshoot as to whether you're going to get decent care for your children with home care.


Not trying to be Mr. Sensitive here, but the poster I was replying to said: "A baby sitter often called family day care is usually one woman alone with children. A day care center is a properly run business and has the following...

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There is no way in the world this could have happened at a day care. Please start calling women at home alone who take care of children what they are baby sitters.


Seems like some heavy brush-painting (i.e. generalizing) to me. My mom was no "babysitter", and she ran a "properly run business" and basically worked her ass off at it, cheerfully, and provided those kids with serious quality care. It's not just about me, I just happen to have a great personal example. I am sure there are many home day cares that don't deserve this kind of labeling, just as there are many "proper" day care centers with multiple professionals (some of them are even paid barely above minimum wage!) where children have died from neglect, abuse or just sheer stupidity. "There is no way..." Let me count the ways.

Given all that, I agree completely with your last comment. You can never be sure, so if you're putting your child into daycare, do your research, and interview prospective caregivers ruthlessly.

21 Nov 2012 11:16 AM
Lor M. Ipsum    [TotalFark]  
willfullyobscure

You suck at life. The world will be a better place when you are gone.

21 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
bluefoxicy     

Hector Remarkable: 80 years is a long time indeed to be in a fire, but I fully support the notion, in principle, of sentencing people to a certain amount of time in a fire. If your crime wasn't too bad, yeah, only an hour or two in the fire, but if we really don't like you, it's weeks, months, or even years.
In the fire.


You're baptist, aren't you?

21 Nov 2012 01:13 PM
Hector Remarkable    [TotalFark]  

bluefoxicy: Hector Remarkable: 80 years is a long time indeed to be in a fire, but I fully support the notion, in principle, of sentencing people to a certain amount of time in a fire. If your crime wasn't too bad, yeah, only an hour or two in the fire, but if we really don't like you, it's weeks, months, or even years.
In the fire.

You're baptist, aren't you?


I am a Whirling Dervish.

21 Nov 2012 02:30 PM
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