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20 Nov 2012 10:30 PM   |   12432 clicks   |   Salon
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AirForceVet    [TotalFark]  
I, for one, welcome our new underpaid Walmart worker overlords.

20 Nov 2012 10:10 PM
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gopher321    [TotalFark]  
Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.

20 Nov 2012 10:12 PM
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haemaker    [TotalFark]  

gopher321: Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.


Not many, it's the ones in the stores who will get trampled.

Link

20 Nov 2012 10:27 PM
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AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  
base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

20 Nov 2012 10:32 PM
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falcon176     
someone please tell me what Fox News thinks I should think so I can have an independent opinion on this

20 Nov 2012 10:34 PM
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JosephFinn     

AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.


Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!

20 Nov 2012 10:35 PM
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AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!


Beggars can't be choosers.

20 Nov 2012 10:35 PM
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Porous Horace     
Go greedy management! Squeeze those workers! They thought they could just fark around in high school and get away with it? Hah.

20 Nov 2012 10:35 PM
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Trafficguy2000     

JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!


Dont worry obamacare will save them!

20 Nov 2012 10:36 PM
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Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     
What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?

20 Nov 2012 10:37 PM
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smitty04     
It is another Union trying to bleed poor unskilled workers of their union dues. Ask the Hostess how much their union has done for them.

20 Nov 2012 10:37 PM
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Summoner101     
I was told they're striking because they just don't want to work holidays.

/I know it's because they want to form a union without Walmart quashing them

20 Nov 2012 10:37 PM
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Skarekrough     
I make it a tradition to get rip-roaring drunk after Thanksgiving and therefore remove all potential that I will be doing any Black Friday shopping.

20 Nov 2012 10:37 PM
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Summoner101     

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?


Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.

20 Nov 2012 10:38 PM
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hubiestubert    [TotalFark]  

20 Nov 2012 10:39 PM
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JosephFinn     

Trafficguy2000: JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!

Dont worry obamacare will save them!


The insurance exchanges, to be sure, are a good start.

20 Nov 2012 10:39 PM
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sgnilward    [TotalFark]  
This thread is going to suck.

20 Nov 2012 10:39 PM
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Edward Rooney Dean of Students     
I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...

20 Nov 2012 10:40 PM
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Hickory-smoked     
Best advice: Shop local.

20 Nov 2012 10:41 PM
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gbcinques     
FTA,
a Demos study that says that raising the salary of all full-time workers at large retailers to $25,000 per year would lift more than 700,000 people out of poverty, at a cost of only a 1 percent price increase for customers.

Instead of adding the price increase to the customers, why not take it out of the Walton family pay packet. You know who, those five of the top 10 richest Americans.

20 Nov 2012 10:41 PM
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Edward Rooney Dean of Students     
Farking iPad autocomplete....

20 Nov 2012 10:41 PM
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Too Pretty For Prison     

AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.


but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!

20 Nov 2012 10:43 PM
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Sergeant Grumbles     

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...


While pay is part of the equation, just as much or more is about what is endured for such pay.

FTFA: Walmart employees across the country have a host of grievances including unsafe and unsanitary working conditions, sexual harassment, excessive hours, forced labor and low pay.

Wal-Mart is squeezing its workers for no other reason than it can.

20 Nov 2012 10:43 PM
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MFAWG     
The one up the road from me has been targeted, and I fully expect to go to cheer the workers on, then go inside and buy something just to add to the workload.

LULZ will be had by all.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...


Have you looked for a job lately?

20 Nov 2012 10:44 PM
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Edward Rooney Dean of Students     

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


I mean, I've worked here for six whole weeks!

20 Nov 2012 10:44 PM
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drewsclues     

sgnilward: This thread is going to suck.


You're goddam right.

Hickory-smoked: Best advice: Shop local.


Best advice: Don't shop on Thanksgiving.

20 Nov 2012 10:44 PM
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AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

Summoner101: I was told they're striking because they just don't want to work holidays.

/I know it's because they want to form a union without Walmart quashing them


And it really would be a good idea for Walmart employees to unionize, if possible.

The types of worker hours policy shenanigans Walmart is trying to pull is little better than slave driving.

20 Nov 2012 10:44 PM
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Sergeant Grumbles     

Too Pretty For Prison: but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


You forgot refrigerator, you hyperbolic fark.

20 Nov 2012 10:44 PM
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Edward Rooney Dean of Students     

MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?


I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!

20 Nov 2012 10:45 PM
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LemSkroob     
good, good. I love war.

/May both sides lose.

20 Nov 2012 10:45 PM
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Summoner101     

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


How about they get paid enough so they don't soak up welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid benefits?

20 Nov 2012 10:46 PM
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Coelacanth     
The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.

20 Nov 2012 10:46 PM
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LDM90     
Pretty sure management doesn't want to do it either, at least at the store level. But hey, the Walton family needs another sports team, you know?

20 Nov 2012 10:46 PM
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Blue_Blazer     

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...

Seriously!!! These dumbasses take these low paying jobs when there are plenty of high paying jobs just sitting there unfiiled! Man those poor sure are stupid!

20 Nov 2012 10:46 PM
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Hickory-smoked     

smitty04: Ask the Hostess how much their union has done for them.


Yes, ask them.

20 Nov 2012 10:47 PM
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Omahawg     
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20 Nov 2012 10:47 PM
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smitty04     

drewsclues: sgnilward: This thread is going to suck.

You're goddam right.

Hickory-smoked: Best advice: Shop local.

Best advice: Don't shop on Thanksgiving.


Best advice is shop online and buy groceries at Meijer, Walmart or Kroger and curse all of them for putting the milk in the far back corner.

20 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
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MFAWG     

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?

I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!


No, seriously: You stated that nobody forced these people to take these jobs. These people have mouths to feed. That's what forces them to take these jobs.

So, have you looked for a job, ever?

20 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
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drewsclues     

Coelacanth: The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.


Edward Rooney Dean of Students: MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?

I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!


The situation is as fixed as it ever was. The only difference is that this time the unemployed have gadgets and an internet to tell you how the situation is. I DON'T HAVE A farkING JOB! #noteventrying

20 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
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Edward Rooney Dean of Students     

Blue_Blazer: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...
Seriously!!! These dumbasses take these low paying jobs when there are plenty of high paying jobs just sitting there unfiiled! Man those poor sure are stupid!


Not the point at all. But taking a minimum wage job and expecting it to be something more than that is not exactly bright.

20 Nov 2012 10:48 PM
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herrDrFarkenstein     

Summoner101: Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!

How about they get paid enough so they don't soak up welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid benefits?


Oh SNAP!

20 Nov 2012 10:49 PM
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Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

Summoner101: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?

Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.


It's not even socialism though. It's a net positive for society, even with a heavily capitalist mixed economy, to have a strong and thriving middle class.

Time and time again throughout history, it's clearly demonstrated that severe discrepancies in income (with 1 or 2% holding a supermajority of wealth) leads to wholesale financial collapse.

In the long-term, the rich would be better served by being a little less rich in the short-term in exchange for an economically secure labor force.

20 Nov 2012 10:49 PM
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Blue_Blazer     

LemSkroob: good, good. I love war.

/May both sides lose.


So you are against corporations AND labor. You just want to watch the world burn don't you?

20 Nov 2012 10:49 PM
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iron_city_ap     

MFAWG: The one up the road from me has been targeted, and I fully expect to go to cheer the workers on, then go inside and buy something just to add to the workload.

LULZ will be had by all.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...

Have you looked for a job lately?


No. You gotta go fill up a cart with frozen and perishable groceries. Go wait in line, then decide the line is too long and leave empty handed.

20 Nov 2012 10:49 PM
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Too Pretty For Prison     
You forgot refrigerator, you hyperbolic fark.

I didn't forget - I just didn't want to appear to be a hyperbolic fark

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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madgonad     
My niece works at Wal*Mart at the deli counter. She is 30 years old, unmarried, with a two year-old. Why yes, she is on food stamps and Medicaid - why do you ask?

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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smitty04     

Coelacanth: The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.


BS

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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USCLaw2010     

gopher321: Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.


upload.wikimedia.org
Pepper spray? What sort of pansy is running this company?

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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Summoner101     

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Summoner101: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?

Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.

It's not even socialism though. It's a net positive for society, even with a heavily capitalist mixed economy, to have a strong and thriving middle class.

Time and time again throughout history, it's clearly demonstrated that severe discrepancies in income (with 1 or 2% holding a supermajority of wealth) leads to wholesale financial collapse.

In the long-term, the rich would be better served by being a little less rich in the short-term in exchange for an economically secure labor force.


Just to let you know, I was being facetious and I agree with you.

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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Richard Johnson     
I do my best to stay the hell out of WallyWorld as I can. I don't think that I have been inside one in 3 years.

20 Nov 2012 10:50 PM
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