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22 Nov 2012 03:00 PM   |   15016 clicks   |   Yahoo
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BarkingUnicorn     
Video reveals he had 8 DUIs, and a BAC of 0.40 on the last one.

I'm OK with this sentence if he has the possibility of parole.

22 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
slayer199    [TotalFark]  
Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.

22 Nov 2012 12:48 PM
Fark It    [TotalFark]  

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


Rehab is no guarantee that he will stop drinking or stop drinking and driving. It's probably more expensive to imprison him for life, but then again, how much is it going to cost when he eventually kills somebody?

22 Nov 2012 12:53 PM
TommyymmoT    [TotalFark]  
That's a bit much. People have gotten less time for intentional murder.
If he had 3 prior felony DUIs, why did he have a license at all?
I would think that would be grounds for a lifetime ban, because that's how it is in New York State anyway.

I wonder if he could sue the DMV or the court for allowing him to drive, knowing the consequences?

22 Nov 2012 01:32 PM
BSABSVR     
fark you for linking to a video rather than a text story and fark you for linking to an auto play video.

22 Nov 2012 01:35 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  

TommyymmoT: That's a bit much. People have gotten less time for intentional murder.
If he had 3 prior felony DUIs, why did he have a license at all?
I would think that would be grounds for a lifetime ban, because that's how it is in New York State anyway.

I wonder if he could sue the DMV or the court for allowing him to drive, knowing the consequences?


Not having a license doesn't stop anyone from driving, really

/just an extra charge when you get busted

22 Nov 2012 01:52 PM
BronyMedic     

TommyymmoT: That's a bit much. People have gotten less time for intentional murder.
If he had 3 prior felony DUIs, why did he have a license at all?
I would think that would be grounds for a lifetime ban, because that's how it is in New York State anyway.

I wonder if he could sue the DMV or the court for allowing him to drive, knowing the consequences?


I know personally that when I climb into my car, it makes me swipe my Driver's license to allow me to key in the ignition.

/multipass?

22 Nov 2012 02:07 PM
JerkyMeat    [TotalFark]  
There is nothing that comes out of texas good enough that it should be used as an example for the rest of the world.
If you want to show the rest of the planet how NOT to do something, then using texas as an example is fine.

22 Nov 2012 03:05 PM
luthia     
That's farking ridiculous!

*watches video*

How many? i'm ok with this.

22 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
tolallorti     
Sentence is overboard, but all this DUI business is proof we need better public transit. No one would care if you're drunk on the train.

22 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
7th Son of a 7th Son     

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


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22 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
Popcorn Johnny     
If it was a 24 year old white girl, would the same sentence have been handed down?

22 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
Lord Zardoz     

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


If the guy has already collected a number of prior DUI convictions, then he probably was not going to stop. Several prior misdemeanor DUIs + a few more felony DUI's does not sound like someone who is going to clean up his act.

Serial offenders can go eat it.

END COMMUNICATION

22 Nov 2012 03:08 PM
skwerl     

TommyymmoT: That's a bit much. People have gotten less time for intentional murder.
If he had 3 prior felony DUIs, why did he have a license at all?
I would think that would be grounds for a lifetime ban, because that's how it is in New York State anyway.

I wonder if he could sue the DMV or the court for allowing him to drive, knowing the consequences?


Idiot thoughts like this are why our society sucks so badly these days. Never take responsibility for your own actions when there is always somebody else you can blame (and sue). Go fark yourself and your idiotic lawsuit ideas. If you were in front of me I'd have to slap the stupid out of you.

22 Nov 2012 03:08 PM
TexasPeace     
He's had eight convictions for drunk driving. Numbers 1-7 did not stop him. He will eventually injure or kill somebody. Life without parole will save those lives and medical expenses. If there's any other way to guarantee he won't drink and drive I'm all for it. Prison seems the only solution.

22 Nov 2012 03:08 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie     

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


Because this is what people want...politicians, police and voters support REVENGE.rather than reform, regardless of costs. It's counter intuitive but this is Texas, y'all.

22 Nov 2012 03:08 PM
UseLessHuman     
I was all ready to be outraged at a judge putting someone with a drug addiction in jail for life, but then I saw the post about 8 duis and my rage balloon got all deflated.

That said, I doesn't appear that he has killed or injured anyone YET so putting him in jail for life like some convicted mass murderer for damage we assume is likely if he continues his behavior does seem a bit over the top, give him 10 years with all but 9 years suspended, if he gets pulled for it again, give him the 10 plus whatever the new dui sentence is. Maybe that was the deal he had previously on dui #7, the video doesn't work for me and it doesn't say in the article or comments.

22 Nov 2012 03:10 PM
cig-mkr     
Racism, mister whitebread 1% er would never get life for driving drunk, even after eight times. This guy just didn't have enough money for a top notch lawyer. "Your honor, my client was too drunk to know he was too drunk to drive"*
However anyone driving drunk and kills someone definitely needs to go to jail for the same length of time as a person that murders someone.
* This was an actual defense used in NC, before they changed the law.

22 Nov 2012 03:10 PM
buzzcut73     

Popcorn Johnny: If it was a 24 year old white girl, would the same sentence have been handed down?


This. Before I even clicked TFA (subby be damned for linking a force-play video with no text), I guessed two things. Texas, and brown guy. I wasn't disappointed.

22 Nov 2012 03:11 PM
theewhiterhino     

JerkyMeat: There is nothing that comes out of texas good enough that it should be used as an example for the rest of the world.
If you want to show the rest of the planet how NOT to do something, then using texas as an example is fine.


THIS

Let them secede already.

22 Nov 2012 03:12 PM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller    [TotalFark]  
So multiple DUIs are now worse than rape. Wow...the MADD propaganda machine has worked.

22 Nov 2012 03:12 PM
sgnilward    [TotalFark]  
Goatse?

DNRTFA

22 Nov 2012 03:13 PM
SDRR     

BSABSVR: fark you for linking to a video rather than a text story and fark you for linking to an auto play video.


And fark you because fark you.

/Happy Thanksgiving!

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
styckx     

cig-mkr: Racism, mister whitebread 1% er would never get life for driving drunk, even after eight times.


Know how I know you don't know what racism is?

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
nursedude     

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?
I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


Surprisingly, I'm OK with this. Can we bill his family for the bullet?

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
sgnilward    [TotalFark]  
Wrong thread. Sorry.

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
Korzine     
Sounds good to me. We shouldn't have to wait for an irresponsible drunkard to kill somebody before locking them away for life. Three felony and four misdemeanor dwis (probably driving on a suspended license too I would imagine) shows a complete disregard for the welfare of anyone else except himself. Locking him away so he cannot hurt anyone is the best option.

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
Aar1012     

Day_Old_Dutchie: slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.

Because this is what people want...politicians, police and voters support REVENGE.rather than reform, regardless of costs. It's counter intuitive but this is Texas, y'all.


If this guy got Life then he got off lightly. This IS Texas, remember?

22 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
Archimedes' Principal     

BSABSVR: fark you for linking to a video rather than a text story and fark you for linking to an auto play video.


22 Nov 2012 03:16 PM
you are a puppet     
How'd I know he would be Hispanic? Fair sentence I guess, although I would've also accepted 10 years of going to Church.

22 Nov 2012 03:16 PM
mechgreg     

slayer199: Why not sentence him to 2-5 years in rehab?

I'm not at all sympathetic to alcoholics, but putting an addict in prison for life and making him the state's responsibility will be overly expensive. At this point we might as well take him out back behind the court and shoot him.


My understanding is that rehab only works if the addict wants to get clean. So if you assume there is a limited number of rehab beds and a high demand for them, why force this guy to go when he doesn't want to since it would essentially mean taking one of those beds away from someone who wants to get clean. Especially since rehab has a lower chance of being successful if the guy is forced to be there against his will.

22 Nov 2012 03:16 PM
BarkingUnicorn     

tolallorti: Sentence is overboard, but all this DUI business is proof we need better public transit. No one would care if you're drunk on the train.


Except the passengers you puked on.

22 Nov 2012 03:17 PM
404 page not found     
Well, bye.

22 Nov 2012 03:17 PM
ansius     
Guy was a recalcitrant repeat offender, who probably would have driven drunk even if he lost his license and insurance.

Quite probably lives in a part of town where he needs to drive to do anything and there's no alternative to driving. Quite probably too poor to get a cab home. Quite probably a raging alcoholic that won't quit once he starts, and won't control his urge to drive home from the bar after a session. (as opposed to just sleeping it off in the car.)

Yes, he needs to be taken off the road.

But life? C'mon.

I agree with the above. He's a dishevelled poor alcoholic brown man, and a texan judge and jury have thrown the book at him.

22 Nov 2012 03:21 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob     

cig-mkr: Racism, mister whitebread 1% er would never get life for driving drunk, even after eight times. This guy just didn't have enough money for a top notch lawyer. "Your honor, my client was too drunk to know he was too drunk to drive"*
However anyone driving drunk and kills someone definitely needs to go to jail for the same length of time as a person that murders someone.
* This was an actual defense used in NC, before they changed the law.


It might just be me - but I think that's a great defense.

This is the same government that says someone who has had a few drinks can't legally consent to have sex. Alcohol makes us SO STUPID that adults can't agree to have consensual sex with one another.....but if they can't accurately estimate their ability to drive, while drunk, they are criminals? In certain cases, signing a legal agreement while intoxicated is grounds for it to be invalidated too. So, you can be too drunk to be held responsible for your actions (if they are signing a contract) but you aren't too drunk to be held responsible for your other actions? If we're saying with certainty, 'drunk people can't be held responsible for their own actions' how can we later throw them in jail for their actions while drunk?

Personally, I'm all for treating adults like adults. Drunk or not. But that's just me, and clearly the law doesn't agree with me.

22 Nov 2012 03:22 PM
barefoot in the head     
So, life for no harm done. Yeah, that sounds like "justice". Didn't watch the stupid auto ad, either.

/comma

22 Nov 2012 03:22 PM
The Bruce Dickinson     
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22 Nov 2012 03:22 PM
HammerHeadSnark    [TotalFark]  

sgnilward: Goatse?

DNRTFA


Nothing to read here, Citizen. Move along. . . .

22 Nov 2012 03:23 PM
Lunaville     

TexasPeace: He's had eight convictions for drunk driving. Numbers 1-7 did not stop him. He will eventually injure or kill somebody. Life without parole will save those lives and medical expenses. If there's any other way to guarantee he won't drink and drive I'm all for it. Prison seems the only solution.


Forbid him to drive, but also forbid him to own a car. Grant local and state police departments to confiscate and sell any vehicle he is caught driving. If the vehicle is borrowed, allow the true owner an opportunity to reclaim the car after paying towing and storage fees and a fine for allowing him to drive. Such a measure would quickly end his ability to drive.

Also, he should have been sentenced to rehab. I don't want to hear a lot of blah, blah, blah about how sentencing addicts to rehab is a violation of their civil rights. If you can lock them up in a for-profit CCA prison without concern for their civil rights, then you can sentence them to rehab.

22 Nov 2012 03:23 PM
Mayhem of the Black Underclass     

Korzine: Sounds good to me. We shouldn't have to wait for an irresponsible drunkard to kill somebody before locking them away for life. Three felony and four misdemeanor dwis (probably driving on a suspended license too I would imagine) shows a complete disregard for the welfare of anyone else except himself. Locking him away so he cannot hurt anyone is the best option.


Before he's hurt anyone.
He exists as a menace, in potentia.

It's sentences like this one why I advocate for a rational response. Drunk drivers put on hazards, don't go on the highway, don't exceed the speed limit, AND don't hurt anyone other than themselves, all set.

22 Nov 2012 03:24 PM
Uglybarnacle     
Hero tag? seriously? DUI even on a multiple offense does not and should not be a life sentence. He didn't rape and murder hundreds, he got repeatedly drunk and drove. I can see 10 years as a maximum and no ability for getting his license back, but not life.

stupid tag is needed, along with a texas tag. (wait that's synonymous) .

22 Nov 2012 03:24 PM
Cast     
Surely we can find a less expensive way to prevent him from driving a vehicle.

22 Nov 2012 03:25 PM
GBB     
Yawn! Wake me up when they start a DUI registry and prohibit these people from living, working, or being within 1000ft of alcohol, places where alcohol is served, consumed or sold, or places where alcohol is known to be.

22 Nov 2012 03:25 PM
Dumb-Ass-Monkey     

Popcorn Johnny: If it was a 24 year old white girl, would the same sentence have been handed down?


if she had 5 misdemeanor and 3 felony DWI convictions in 8 years (assuming she got her license at 16), i wouldn't mind if that happened.

22 Nov 2012 03:30 PM
srhp29     

TommyymmoT: That's a bit much. People have gotten less time for intentional murder.
If he had 3 prior felony DUIs, why did he have a license at all?
I would think that would be grounds for a lifetime ban, because that's how it is in New York State anyway.

I wonder if he could sue the DMV or the court for allowing him to drive, knowing the consequences?


People like you who suggest suing someone because an adult can't control themselves are a problem, not a solution.

22 Nov 2012 03:31 PM
jimmyjackfunk     

buzzcut73: Popcorn Johnny: If it was

a 24 year old white girl any white person, would the same sentence have been handed down?

This. Before I even clicked TFA (subby be damned for linking a force-play video with no text), I guessed two things. Texas, and brown guy. I wasn't disappointed.


FTFY also people are going to argue that the sentence was to harsh, or not harsh enough. The guy was going to continue driving even if his license was taken away. I have driven without a license and it gets you some hefty fines that is why it pays to keep that stuff legal.

/wasn't there another guy that had just gotten his 20 something dui? That guy had been in and out of the courts so much it was ridiculous. 

//oh and thanks for linking to an autoplay video...not really

22 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
cbathrob     
Apparently, he'll be eligible for parole in 5 years, so, no, it's not quite like being sentenced for murder. What it will do is keep him on parole for the rest of his life, so any subsequent offenses will land him right back in the slammer without delay. Theoretically, at least.

22 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
Lunaville     

buzzcut73: Popcorn Johnny: If it was a 24 year old white girl, would the same sentence have been handed down?

This. Before I even clicked TFA (subby be damned for linking a force-play video with no text), I guessed two things. Texas, and brown guy. I wasn't disappointed.


A white woman definitely would not have gotten the same sentence. Even worse than a scenario with a young white woman, is one with an elderly white woman who can play "granny" long enough to get sympathy. I have a relative, a white woman in her 60s, that I sincerely thought would die last spring. I could not persuade her probation officer to arrest her because he was too worried she'd end up locked up with the general population. This woman is a felon who continually drove drunk and tested positive not only for alcohol, but also meth and PCP. I could not convince anyone to arrest her. I did manage to maneuver her into a rehab facility, but she left early against medical advice. We'll see how it goes from here.

22 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
alexjoss    [TotalFark]  
Texan here---He'll be eligible for parole after 30 calendar years. Comal county (New Braunfels, TX) is notorious for having conservative juries, prosecutors, and judges---By the way, it was the jury who decided the life sentence, not the Judge, subby. Alcoholism leads farkers to 3 places--jails, mental institutions, or in a coffin unless you stop drinking. They say you have to hit bottom before you decide to change--and this guy hit bottom 7 times before this conviction.
I agree that life was too high but I give the dude kudos for the .44 Breath Alcohol Level-----He was standing up fairly straight on the video--Dude can hold his Bud Light for sure.

22 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
Enemabag Jones     
Ten years would have given this asshole enough time to dry up and think about how he go there.

If this person would have been a female or anglo male he would probably have gone to prison for about ten years.

He looks like Mexican that Texans are tired of seeing and it was easy to throw the book at him.

/Racism card, well sort of.
//How is life in prison even allowed, aren't there sentencing guidelines?

22 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
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