Way to go, Subtard. Now I have this song stuck in my head.

/Melle Mel

Look at the Big Brian on Al-Bradiri!

Hey Iran.


Violating international law is okay when we do it.

lol, Iran. Go fark some goats on your prayer mats.

Why haven't someone melted Mecca yet?

... Tuscaloosa has its own news website?

When's Iran going to learn their territory ends twelve miles off the coast like the rest of the planet?

STEP OFF

Well, if you have a drone over your airspace, shoot it down.
Just better be right, and be prepared for the consequences.

robohobo: lol, Iran. Go fark some goats on your prayer mats.

Why haven't someone melted Mecca yet?

Probably because Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, not too far from Jedda.

Since the House of Saud is an "ally" of the US, no one's going to go melting the place anytime soon. After all, you arsehats need their oil for your giant SUVs, so they get a free pass.

/this post brought to you by Grendel's "educate the complete moron" fund
//can't be troll post, no one's that stupid
/$diety help me, please tell me no one's that stupid

sorry GrendelMk1, Poe's Law is in effect.
//que up the farnsworth.jpgs

News just in, a reply from the White House regarding the situation:

luthia: STEP OFF

Nice. +1

Kalashinator: When's Iran going to learn their territory ends twelve miles off the coast like the rest of the planet?

Probably sometime before the US realizes the same, considering they've signed but not ratified UNCLOS, while the US has done neither.

Right of free passage.

fark you Iran and your neutron initiators. You greedy farks still want a nuclear device. I say fark them all.

The letters, circulated Friday, urged Ban to warn the U.S. "against the continuation of acts in violation of international law and of the adverse consequences 

Is this a repeat from 1954?

Why doesn't the U.S. just over throw the Iranian government and install their own authoritarian leadership?

JerkyMeat: Why doesn't the U.S. just over throw the Iranian government and install their own authoritarian leadership?

I see what you did there.

None shall pass!

JerkyMeat: Why doesn't the U.S. just over throw the Iranian government and install their own authoritarian leadership?

We had a shot at actually doing some good for Iran a few years ago when the sane people there were trying to get a revolution going, but we were too busy yanking our dicks in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm the last person who would advocate for the US being the world police, but they were begging for our help as loud as they dared at that point. We could have actually liberated some people for once, and we wouldn't be having this issue over nuclear weapons now.

JerkyMeat: Why doesn't the U.S. just over throw the Iranian government and install their own authoritarian leadership again ?

FTFY

Hey Iran.....

"Across the (Arab World), an overwhelming majority of the population regards the United States as the main threat to their interests. The US and its allies will do anything they can to prevent authentic democracy in the Arab world," said Chomsky.

"The reason is very simple. Plainly, the US and its allies are not going to like governments which are responsive to the will of the people. If that happens, not only will the US not control the region, but it will be thrown out," claimed Chomsky.

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"Across the (Arab World), an overwhelming majority of the population regards the United States as the main threat to their interests. The US and its allies will do anything they can to prevent authentic democracy in the Arab world," said Chomsky.

"The reason is very simple. Plainly, the US and its allies are not going to like governments which are responsive to the will of the people. If that happens, not only will the US not control the region, but it will be thrown out," claimed Chomsky.

Sitting in my apartment in Cairo, woken by american made tear gas fired by american paid riot cops, with hillary having been here 3 days ago patting the new dictator on the back, I can't help but agree.

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"Across the (Arab World), an overwhelming majority of the population regards the United States as the main threat to their interests. The US and its allies will do anything they can to prevent authentic democracy in the Arab world," said Chomsky.

"The reason is very simple. Plainly, the US and its allies are not going to like governments which are responsive to the will of the people. If that happens, not only will the US not control the region, but it will be thrown out," claimed Chomsky.

Also, persians != arabs.

The US has created just about all its problems in the Middle East itself. If you study the history of the region and of US involvement in the region you start to understand why we are not so popular over there.

I always like to read these threads though, so you see posts from educated people who seem to understand something of the history and politics of the region, and then you get amusing posts from gung-ho people whose patriotism is blinding, mostly to themselves.

Iranian presidential election to be held on 14th June next year, btw

Shahab: If you study the history of the region and of US involvement in the region you start to understand why we are not so popular over there.



If you study history from the days before CNN, it actually has alot more to do with European interference.
What we now know as the modern middle east is the wreckage of an empire torn apart after the first world war from its ethnic differences and ready cash being pumped in by the west. Each tribe tried to pick sides in order to strengthen itself (often, they chose poorly). The result is a mess of fractured allegiances and people paying the price for past sins against their neighbors.

I think in the long run they will reform into a new conglomeration of nations, and I think the leaders there all believe so.
Each one wants to be on top of that transformation... to which, each one is trying to murder his neighbor and that process is preventing progress.

Personally I think American technology and influence is a good thing. Its allowing the locals to see past their differences and also through the lies the existing governments have put in place. They are beginning to realize that even tho they share a cultural background, religion is not a viable source for good leadership.
If more moderate governments prevail from all these Arab spring movements, the region is more likely to unite and increase its global influence. All of that oil money may still be put to good use.

As this looks to become a thing, you can expect terrorists and tyrants to rear their ugly heads in an attempt to control the process.
...but the US is actively hunting those groups, and keeping the rogue governments in check.

/I think history will paint American influence in a good light when the dust has settled.
/hopefully it wont be the dust from nuclear fallout.

"keeping rogue governments in check"


What does this even mean? We don't care what the fark the governments do to there own people. Only that they listen to us.

crab66: "keeping rogue governments in check"


What does this even mean? We don't care what the fark the governments do to there own people. Only that they listen to us.

It means if Iran (Syria, etc...) tried to jump their borders or influence wars in neighboring states, the US becomes a factor by either direct intervention or getting the UN to impose sanctions. It means we quietly help rebels when it looks like a new government will be more likely to listen to reason than the old one.
It means that any dictator or terrorist thinking of sparking a regional war has to contend with the possibility of a visit from US attack drones.

It may be the peace of the gun, but the relative stability is giving time for cooler heads to prevail.

GrendelMk1:

Since the House of Saud is an "ally" of the US, no one's going to go melting the place anytime soon. After all, you arsehats need their oil for your giant SUVs, so they get a free pass. 

OMG, is this a troll post, or are you retarded...? Honestly would like to know. Our country gets so little oil from that armpit of the world, I often wonder why we bother. The only reason we deal with those creeps is to help keep the rest of the world stable. Me personally, I say let the rest of the world burn, however it seems that we are now connected in some way, and what goes toes up in one place has an effect on others.

If we went into Iraq for oil, then why have we not seen a dime of that oil yet? We went the to help prop up Europe, Russia, and Asia. The real question is.. will those that owe US pay it back, not if we will pay others.

Debt forgiveness was a thing practiced by every civilization prior to Rome. And once the Romans decided not to do that, that is when the world economy got funky.

Rome has waned, but there are more "romes" out there this day.

oh gawd... just read my post... FWD (Farking While Drunk) makes for some interesting reads...heh

Had a point to make in my previous post... danged if I can arse-pull it now. Maybe tomorrow before I start drinking again...

robohobo: lol, Iran. Go fark some goats on your prayer mats.

Why haven't someone melted Mecca yet?

This comment is full of insight into the Sunni/Shia divide... I always come to Fark for intelligent comment.

DysphoricMania: If we went into Iraq for oil, then why have we not seen a dime of that oil yet?

Cheney wanted Halliburton and other companies to profit.

I want to fight a war with Iran. Out of personal interest, not national interest.

Since we're talking about the middle east, again, I'm just going to ask my off-topic oddball question here:

I'm genuinely curious, when all is said and done what happens when a devout practicing Muslim knowingly and willingly eats a piece of bacon?
What is the absolute end result, what is the consequence of that action?

LOL, Obama is just sending over a couple free drones like he did for China, nothing to worry about Comrades.

way south: Shahab: If you study the history of the region and of US involvement in the region you start to understand why we are not so popular over there.

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If you study history from the days before CNN, it actually has alot more to do with European interference.
What we now know as the modern middle east is the wreckage of an empire torn apart after the first world war from its ethnic differences and ready cash being pumped in by the west. Each tribe tried to pick sides in order to strengthen itself (often, they chose poorly). The result is a mess of fractured allegiances and people paying the price for past sins against their neighbors.

I think in the long run they will reform into a new conglomeration of nations, and I think the leaders there all believe so.
Each one wants to be on top of that transformation... to which, each one is trying to murder his neighbor and that process is preventing progress.

Personally I think American technology and influence is a good thing. Its allowing the locals to see past their differences and also through the lies the existing governments have put in place. They are beginning to realize that even tho they share a cultural background, religion is not a viable source for good leadership.
If more moderate governments prevail from all these Arab spring movements, the region is more likely to unite and increase its global influence. All of that oil money may still be put to good use.

As this looks to become a thing, you can expect terrorists and tyrants to rear their ugly heads in an attempt to control the process.
...but the US is actively hunting those groups, and keeping the rogue governments in check.

/I think history will paint American influence in a good light when the dust has settled.
/hopefully it wont be the dust from nuclear fallout.

The interesting point you make is in your picture. Haj Amin AL-Husseini
was an ardent anti-Semite LONG before Israel came to be. Since he had been appointed
"Mufti of Jerusalem" he had a lot of influence over Palestinians, and he spewed out his
hatred of Jews. During WWII he gathered up people men to form units to join the Germans.
That got him a jab at the Brits, endearment to Nazi's (sorta), and a chance to off some of his enemies.
He went on to form the PLO..So the Palestinians have been feed a line of anti-semetic propganda
for way more time than Israel has even been.. And he spoke from a position of "power" all over
the Middle East..From Iraq, The Balkans/Turkey and over to Egypt. It's not as if WW II were the
only impetus to creating Israel..Which is what a lot of people seem to think..I'm sure since it was
the Brits plan, the U.S. supported it, but that plan started after WW I..But still, the U.S. seems to take the brunt of the blame for Israel and everything else.

The Ironic thing..AL-Husseini died on July 4th... :P

C18H27NO3: Since we're talking about the middle east, again, I'm just going to ask my off-topic oddball question here:

I'm genuinely curious, when all is said and done what happens when a devout practicing Muslim knowingly and willingly eats a piece of bacon?
What is the absolute end result, what is the consequence of that action?

Local legend: a caribbean farmer suspected that someone had been stealing his pigs. So he got his sons together and, one morning, hid on the edge of his field.
Surely enough, he saw two Rastafarians make off with one of his animals.
He decides to follow them instead of stopping them initially, because rasta obviously don't eat port. The farmer figured they were going to sell the pig, and he wanted to catch both them and the buyer red handed.

After a short walk, the thieves stopped at a make shift camp and one of them pulled out a machete to butcher the animal.
As the rasta raised the weapon above his head, he shouted "I baptize thee Goat!".

/I dunno about Muslims, but I do know that rasta are allowed to go against their diet in times of hardship.

I propose that we introduce feral hogs to Iran.

Can we drop the whole Muslims and pork thing already? Muslims do all that shiat, just not in front of other devout Muslims who may or may not be carrying scimitars.

way south: Shahab: If you study the history of the region and of US involvement in the region you start to understand why we are not so popular over there.



If you study history from the days before CNN, it actually has alot more to do with European interference.
What we now know as the modern middle east is the wreckage of an empire torn apart after the first world war from its ethnic differences and ready cash being pumped in by the west. Each tribe tried to pick sides in order to strengthen itself (often, they chose poorly). The result is a mess of fractured allegiances and people paying the price for past sins against their neighbors.

I think in the long run they will reform into a new conglomeration of nations, and I think the leaders there all believe so.
Each one wants to be on top of that transformation... to which, each one is trying to murder his neighbor and that process is preventing progress.

Personally I think American technology and influence is a good thing. Its allowing the locals to see past their differences and also through the lies the existing governments have put in place. They are beginning to realize that even tho they share a cultural background, religion is not a viable source for good leadership.
If more moderate governments prevail from all these Arab spring movements, the region is more likely to unite and increase its global influence. All of that oil money may still be put to good use.

As this looks to become a thing, you can expect terrorists and tyrants to rear their ugly heads in an attempt to control the process.
...but the US is actively hunting those groups, and keeping the rogue governments in check.

/I think history will paint American influence in a good light when the dust has settled.
/hopefully it wont be the dust from nuclear fallout.

This and more this

way south:

/I dunno about Muslims, but I do know that rasta are allowed to go against their diet in times of hardship.

When I was in Saudi Arabia, this seemed to apply to alcohol, pornography and buggering Pakistani servants as well...

DysphoricMania: If we went into Iraq for oil, then why have we not seen a dime of that oil yet?

Who is this "we" you speak of??? I didn't realize the US had nationalized the oil industry.

Delecrious: I want to fight a war with Iran. Out of personal interest, not national interest.


Been there. Done that.

That's just how we float in the Gulf, Yo.

/Navy Engineer
//loves it when "the company" is in the news
///TV sez we're a force for good in the world.

JerkyMeat: Why doesn't the U.S. just over throw the Iranian government and install their own authoritarian leadership?

What, again?

Accidents happen, Iran. Accidents happen...