| The end of riverboat gambling? Anyone want to buy a boat?
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Well. That's sort of sad. In a way. Not sad in the way that really makes you sad but sad in the way you feel when that show you stopped watching years ago comes to an end.
Casinos: where losers go to ply their trade.
Missouri did this a while back.
It used to be that casinos were only allowed to be on water (IE: A riverboat). Then one of the casinos here in St. Louis found a loophole and basically dug a moat and built the casino on top of that instead of on the river.
That basically put an end to that rule and now casinos are built on land and bigger than ever and there is only one or two riverboat casinos left in the St. Louis area.
| Pants full of macaroni!!
Anyone want to buy a boat?
"I probly know more about tryin' ta sell boats than anyone I know."
casinos don't want to have to operate riverboats, but were forced to as a condition of running casinos. Old folks who opposed 'em and forced the boating requirements...if nothing else, then to limit their number...will be shaking their fists at clouds, about now. Casino companies are satisfied that their long-term planning, following the Social Justice model.
Same as it ever was.
| sure haven't
Eh ok, we've all got Dillingers, let's all relax, ain't no one here a cheat.
/best I could find
I don't get why gambling is illegal anywhere. They have the lottery almost everywhere. At least with blackjack you have a shot of winning.
/usually wins a couple hundred at blackjack
//win much more than that, you wind up in a hole in the desert
stevarooni: casinos don't want to have to operate riverboats, but were forced to as a condition of running casinos. Old folks who opposed 'em and forced the boating requirements...if nothing else, then to limit their number...will be shaking their fists at clouds, about now. Casino companies are satisfied that their long-term planning, following the Social Justice model.
You sound like you live in Missouri.
Yep, same here.
Mangoose: Well. That's sort of sad. In a way. Not sad in the way that really makes you sad but sad in the way you feel when that show you stopped watching years ago comes to an end.
Kinda like the sad you get when you hear Larry Hagman just died.
/and by you I mean me
The casino near St. Louis is allegedly on water, but you couldn't tell it - that's one of the loophole casinos. If you're going to have a casino on water, you should be able to untie it from its moorings and float downstream. If not, it's just a building on piers.
| Lord Farkwad
sure haven't: Eh ok, we've all got Dillingers, let's all relax, ain't no one here a cheat.
Deringers, not Dillingers.
The casinos in Tunica MS are the loophole variety of casino, basically a channel dug into the riverbank with a casino built upon a huge barge that is tied down very securely. Most don't know they are afloat while aboard.
In Shreveport/Bossier, the hotels are so integrated into the riverboats that it's easy to forget that you're on a boat at all. I imagine if they ever had to sail them the side of the boat would look like the inside of the hotel.
No non-smoking sections and sub par smoke filtration keep my money where it belongs. Hmm, I think I'll go get a powerball ticket.
| Dear Jerk
Riverboat gambling is an idea that got legislated into stupidity.
I'm not saying legislators are stupid, just that they had to twist and bend to beat the anti-gambling forces.
I'm not a gambler, but the idea of a real riverboat full of gamblers on a day trip is pretty cool.
| sure haven't
JonZoidberg: sure haven't: Eh ok, we've all got Dillingers, let's all relax, ain't no one here a cheat.
Ah fluck, I knew that sounded wrong.
Dear Jerk: Riverboat gambling is an idea that got legislated into stupidity.
I was alive in the 80s and living in illinois. the issue was the fundies hated gambling but the idea of a "riverboat" made it somehow seem less threatening, Mark Twain history and all of that. Plus everyone knew already "down by the river" was the unsavory people, so if you wanted gambling there at least it wasn't out in the nice new mall or downtown. People were worried gambling would be too prevalent but if you limit it to just being on a boat, then it seemed more safe. Remember no internet net, remember years of no gambling anywhere but Vegas.. Remember Vegas only being non-mobbed up for only a few years at that point.
Now its damn near 30 years later and everyone's grown up with being comfortable with gambling, and now limiting them to this notion of they need to be on a boat seems silly. Wasn't always the case.
The best new law change is in Illinois, where they stipulate that the casino part must still be "over water". So new land-based casinos which are starting to come online or are being proposed, which are very nice, upscale little Vegas-styled casinos, all have basements that are flooded with 6 inches of water.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/20 11-07-15/news/ct-met-casino-bet- 2 0110715-1_1_des-plaines-casino-rivers- casino-gaming-floor
Whereas this is a thing, it's really happening and there are changes going on and all of it is actually taking place, wtf should I give a shiat? This is barely news. But certainly not fark.
| TV's Vinnie
The puckerbutts over in Nebraska were VERY butthurt at not only losing their own horse racing track which was an outdated dinosaur, but were seething jealous of the riverboat on the Iowa side which was making the mad money that Nebraska thinks should belong only to them. Nebraska even threatened to board & impound the boat if it strayed one foot over the border onto the Nebraska side.
Plus the cost of dredging outall that river sand underneath the boat every year, along with it's other upkeep expenses, were costing the casino a lot of dough. Casinos want to make money not spend it after all.
JonZoidberg: In Shreveport/Bossier, the hotels are so integrated into the riverboats that it's easy to forget that you're on a boat at all. I imagine if they ever had to sail them the side of the boat would look like the inside of the hotel.
It would probably look like this:
Blame Obama's Poverty Economy™
I remember when Indiana went the riverboat route, and there was a big hotel/convention space/golf resort type joint put in by Caesar's just down river from Louisville. The gambling boat actually, in its first few years, putt-putted up and down the OH a few thousand yards, or something. Then, they just started floating a few feet offshore, sat there for a four-hour "cruise", and floated back in. Now, it's Horseshoe, and looks odd because it still has legacy trappings of the "roman" shiat, and doesn't even leave the dock. Asians, rednecks, old folks and losers come and go as they please, 24/7. There has been a push in the KY legislature in recent years to allow some level of casino-style gambling at the horse tracks, under the claim that billions of potential tax dollars are going over the river to IN and OH casinos. At Kentucky Downs, a "European" style turf course just south of Bowling Green, where they only run horses a week in September, they have OTB and now "instant racing", a slot machine disguised as a horse racing bet, where it shows videos of past horse races you can bet on. All the info is stripped of the video, so you don't know who/when/where was involved in the actual race.
20 years from now, pot will be legal, heavily taxed, and there will be a dozen casinos here in the Commonwealth.
Sooner, if the diabeetus gets to all the old southern Baptist Bible-thumbers that run this place.
| Lt. Cheese Weasel
Casinos are depressing places, land river or sea.
Riverboats have bad karma karma karma (chameleon).
Lt. Cheese Weasel: Casinos are depressing places, land river or sea.
They can be. The zombies playing the slots all night, yeah, that is depressing. The private poker games? I'm not good at poker so I don't know. Someone at the table is happy. Blackjack, someone who knows what they're doing makes a little money and splits.
There isn't an enormous pyramid hotel in Vegas with a laser that is a threat to commercial jets because people are goodwith cards.
Harrah's would at least let you go out on the deck of the boat to smell omaha's raw sewage while Ameristar is all nazi about it. I think they'd chain you to the machines if they could.
Ah yes, the riverboats, created to satisfy the old codgers, who then turned right around and were the first ones in line to gamble when they opened.
Ameristar and Harrah's were always there from my teens onward. I still remember the poutrage over them...until the money started flowing in.
Nebraska still doesn't have them, because "morality," but you can gamble away on keno in just about every damned bar, and buy pull-tabs while you're picking numbers on a sheet.
verbaltoxin: Ah yes, the riverboats, created to satisfy the old codgers, who then turned right around and were the first ones in line to gamble when they opened.
Morality had nothing to do with Nebraska's poutrage when CB was putting in riverboats. That was all about Keno, pull tabs, and that shiatty horse track.
No the casinos gave money to the anti-casino morality groups in Nebraska because the casinos did not want to try to compete with a Casino in the Old Market District, the riverboat casinos would have been put out of business based on higher operating costs of boat upkeep.
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