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25 Nov 2012 12:02 PM   |   5148 clicks   |   HelenaIR.com
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Abox     
Sorry, that page doesn't exist!

25 Nov 2012 12:03 PM
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Nothing To See Here     
Sorry, that Flag doesn't exist.

25 Nov 2012 12:06 PM
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almandot     
Sorry, that neighbor does not exist!

25 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
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skinink     
Sorry, the beginning of a Fark thread doesn't exist.

25 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
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whither_apophis     

Abox: Sorry, that page doesn't exist!


That page doesn't exist in any language, it will never be read by a human mouth.

/sorry, got the T Heads on and it was near total coincidental.

25 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
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MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  
Try this link

25 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
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Nightjars     
Sorry, that fire doesn't exist!

25 Nov 2012 12:07 PM
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Apos     
Sorry, but that vandalism record does not exist!

25 Nov 2012 12:08 PM
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Apos     

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Try this link


Thanks.

25 Nov 2012 12:10 PM
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GranoblasticMan     
Sorry, that meme doesn't exist!


Yet...

25 Nov 2012 12:11 PM
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MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  

Apos: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Try this link

Thanks.


My pleasure

25 Nov 2012 12:12 PM
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the801     
you can burn your neighbor, and you can burn your flag, but you can't burn your neighbor's flag.

25 Nov 2012 12:17 PM
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Ima4nic8or     
Farked page.

Thats Ok. The mention of fire made me mad and now I need to vent. Last night on my local news they ran a story about the local air pollution control district nazis planning to increase the number of no-burn days from the current 18 to 47. So basically all winter would be no burn days. WTF is this world coming to when a person cant even have a fire in a FIREPLACE in their own damn home? What the heck do these morons think a fireplace is for? A fireplace is a place to have a farking fire!!!!! There should not be even 1 "no burn" day, much less 47 of them. I suppose I should not get so worked up since it really doesnt mean a damn thing. Since they only enforce these sorts of things if someone complains and since none of my neighbors are pussy, whiner nazis I will go right on having fires whenever I feel like it. That said, it is utterly insane how invasive and socialist our government is becoming.

25 Nov 2012 12:18 PM
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Beemer     
Who do those air pollution control nazis think they are, trying to control air pollution?!

25 Nov 2012 12:21 PM
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titwrench     

Ima4nic8or: Farked page.

Thats Ok. The mention of fire made me mad and now I need to vent. Last night on my local news they ran a story about the local air pollution control district nazis planning to increase the number of no-burn days from the current 18 to 47. So basically all winter would be no burn days. WTF is this world coming to when a person cant even have a fire in a FIREPLACE in their own damn home? What the heck do these morons think a fireplace is for? A fireplace is a place to have a farking fire!!!!! There should not be even 1 "no burn" day, much less 47 of them. I suppose I should not get so worked up since it really doesnt mean a damn thing. Since they only enforce these sorts of things if someone complains and since none of my neighbors are pussy, whiner nazis I will go right on having fires whenever I feel like it. That said, it is utterly insane how invasive and socialist our government is becoming.


That is ridiculous. What are they trying to accomplish? If it is a pollution issue why don't they implement no drive days?

25 Nov 2012 12:22 PM
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Kumana Wanalaia     
Well what if I just burn his house down and the flag goes up with the house?

Is that cool?

25 Nov 2012 12:23 PM
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Beemer     
"I worship that flag," Bailey said at that original hearing. "I put my life on it.

And that is the difference between loving your country the way a three-year-old loves his mommy, and loving your country like an adult that acknowledges flaws and works to form a more perfect union.

25 Nov 2012 12:23 PM
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Coco LaFemme     
While it's legal to burn a U. S. flag, it is not legal to steal someone else's flag and burn it. That's called theft. Buying your own flag and setting it ablaze is perfectly fine, if that's what you want to do.

25 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
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Mentalpatient87    [TotalFark]  

Beemer: "I worship that flag," Bailey said at that original hearing. "I put my life on it.

And that is the difference between loving your country the way a three-year-old loves his mommy, and loving your country like an adult that acknowledges flaws and works to form a more perfect union.


*salute*

25 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
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wildcardjack     
You should have heard the furor when I burnt a flag that was wrapped around a fascist holding a bible.

25 Nov 2012 12:24 PM
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whither_apophis     

Beemer: "I worship that flag," Bailey said at that original hearing. "I put my life on it.

And that is the difference between loving your country the way a three-year-old loves his mommy, and loving your country like an adult that acknowledges flaws and works to form a more perfect union.


What if I love the USA like I love subby's mom?

/hah subby's mom meme ftw!
// :-|

25 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
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offmymeds     

wildcardjack: You should have heard the furor when I burnt a flag that was wrapped around a fascist holding a bible.


Damned liberal neo-cons!

25 Nov 2012 12:26 PM
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whither_apophis     

wildcardjack: You should have heard the furor when I burnt a flag that was wrapped around a fascist holding a bible.


führer?

25 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
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Clemkadidlefark     
Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."

25 Nov 2012 12:27 PM
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Sock Ruh Tease     
i.imgur.com

25 Nov 2012 12:36 PM
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BSABSVR    [TotalFark]  

Clemkadidlefark: Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."


Because nothing says scary badass like middle-aged musician/actor.

25 Nov 2012 12:38 PM
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Arkanaut     

Ima4nic8or: no-burn days


That makes me wonder, do burn permits apply to "speech acts"? Maybe you can burn flags in your fireplace -- doesn't have to be American flags -- and claim it's a protest?

25 Nov 2012 12:39 PM
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Sock Ruh Tease     

Arkanaut: Ima4nic8or: no-burn days

That makes me wonder, do burn permits apply to "speech acts"? Maybe you can burn flags in your fireplace -- doesn't have to be American flags -- and claim it's a protest?


Or you could burn logs in your fireplace to protest against trees.

25 Nov 2012 12:42 PM
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Even With A Chainsaw     

Ima4nic8or: Farked page.

Thats Ok. The mention of fire made me mad and now I need to vent. Last night on my local news they ran a story about the local air pollution control district nazis planning to increase the number of no-burn days from the current 18 to 47. So basically all winter would be no burn days. WTF is this world coming to when a person cant even have a fire in a FIREPLACE in their own damn home? What the heck do these morons think a fireplace is for? A fireplace is a place to have a farking fire!!!!! There should not be even 1 "no burn" day, much less 47 of them. I suppose I should not get so worked up since it really doesnt mean a damn thing. Since they only enforce these sorts of things if someone complains and since none of my neighbors are pussy, whiner nazis I will go right on having fires whenever I feel like it. That said, it is utterly insane how invasive and socialist our government is becoming.


Yes. Laws against burning things = socialism.

That word, you keep using it.

25 Nov 2012 12:43 PM
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12349876     

Ima4nic8or: Farked page.

Thats Ok. The mention of fire made me mad and now I need to vent. Last night on my local news they ran a story about the local air pollution control district nazis planning to increase the number of no-burn days from the current 18 to 47. So basically all winter would be no burn days. WTF is this world coming to when a person cant even have a fire in a FIREPLACE in their own damn home? What the heck do these morons think a fireplace is for? A fireplace is a place to have a farking fire!!!!! There should not be even 1 "no burn" day, much less 47 of them. I suppose I should not get so worked up since it really doesnt mean a damn thing. Since they only enforce these sorts of things if someone complains and since none of my neighbors are pussy, whiner nazis I will go right on having fires whenever I feel like it. That said, it is utterly insane how invasive and socialist our government is becoming.


When some dumbass farmer turns a garbage fire into a forest fire during a drought and your house burns down, I won't be feeling sorry for you.

25 Nov 2012 12:46 PM
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Arkanaut     

Sock Ruh Tease: Arkanaut: Ima4nic8or: no-burn days

That makes me wonder, do burn permits apply to "speech acts"? Maybe you can burn flags in your fireplace -- doesn't have to be American flags -- and claim it's a protest?

Or you could burn logs in your fireplace to protest against trees.


Damn trees, always sticking their limbs where they don't belong...

25 Nov 2012 12:47 PM
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abhorrent1     
I burned a US flag last weekend so I'm getting a kick...

25 Nov 2012 12:54 PM
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pedrop357     

titwrench: That is ridiculous. What are they trying to accomplish? If it is a pollution issue why don't they implement no drive days?


Probably because driving a car produces nothing near the amount of pollution as a wood burning fireplace or stove (assuming these as they are usually the target of burn bans). This does not include pellet stoves or other wood burning appliances that have methods to curb emissions.

25 Nov 2012 12:55 PM
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Mega Steve     

My grandma and your grandma
Sitting by the fire
My grandma says to your grandma
"I'm gonna set your flag on fire"

Talkin' 'bout
Hey now
Hey now
Iko iko an nay
Jockomo feena ah na nay
Jockomo feena nay

25 Nov 2012 12:57 PM
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prjindigo     
the "contact webmaster" is a farking phone number lol

25 Nov 2012 12:57 PM
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Repo Man     
"Felony flag desecration"?

25 Nov 2012 12:59 PM
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neoheathen     

BSABSVR: Clemkadidlefark: Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."

Because nothing says scary badass like middle-aged musician/actor.


Dude is 6'6" and has survived being shot through both lungs an the heart by his ex-wife. Sounds pretty badass to me.

25 Nov 2012 01:01 PM
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ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
For your entertainment, Texas v. Johnson. The Supreme Court voted 5-4 to allow flag burning as a legal form of protest.

25 Nov 2012 01:02 PM
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Repo Man     

Clemkadidlefark: Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."


Authoritarians love to make things sacred. See also Muslim reactions to Koran burnings.

25 Nov 2012 01:03 PM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  
"Lowry was originally charged with a felony charge of desecrating the flag and
misdemeanor counts of negligent arson and criminal mischief."

Priorities, how do they work?

25 Nov 2012 01:04 PM
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Repo Man     

ZAZ: For your entertainment, Texas v. Johnson. The Supreme Court voted 5-4 to allow flag burning as a legal form of protest.


That's why I was questioning the felony flag burning charge.

25 Nov 2012 01:04 PM
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Repo Man     
And for the fireplace guy, buy a pellet stove. They aren't issuing no burn days just to oppress you. Everyone has to breath.

25 Nov 2012 01:09 PM
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Resident Muslim     
B-b-but freedom of speech!!

25 Nov 2012 01:09 PM
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Nothing To See Here     

BarkingUnicorn: "Lowry was originally charged with a felony charge of desecrating the flag and
misdemeanor counts of negligent arson and criminal mischief."

Priorities, how do they work?


Put Priorities First, Moran.

/I Keed

25 Nov 2012 01:12 PM
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Repo Man     

Resident Muslim: B-b-but freedom of speech!!


I'm all for it, but it certainly doesn't extend to someone else's flag. Burn your own flag.

25 Nov 2012 01:12 PM
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Tumunga     

Repo Man: Clemkadidlefark: Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."

Authoritarians love to make things sacred. See also Muslim reactions to Koran burnings.


So, you think the 1st Ammendment shouldn't exist? That's nice.

25 Nov 2012 01:13 PM
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ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
Repo Man

I was also wondering about the felony charge. Qualified immunity doesn't apply when the Supreme Court has decided the issue. (If the flag burning protest case doesn't apply, the cross burning case does.) I decided it doesn't matter. There was legitimate cause to arrest and the guy probably suffered no additional harm from the felony charge. To the extent the charges were added by the prosecutor rather than police, absolute immunity applies.

But if cops arrested him for straight up flag desecration with no aggravating circumstances, they could be in trouble.

25 Nov 2012 01:16 PM
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LOTN     

Tumunga: Repo Man: Clemkadidlefark: Apparently page and flag no longer exist

I treasure a line from Trace Adkins ...

"Son, the First Amendment protects you from the government. Not from me."

Authoritarians love to make things sacred. See also Muslim reactions to Koran burnings.

So, you think the 1st Ammendment shouldn't exist? That's nice.


How the fark does your statement follow whatsoever?

25 Nov 2012 01:19 PM
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Duke_leto_Atredes     
set your flag on fire

Do i have to do Everything?
people!

25 Nov 2012 01:24 PM
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The One True TheDavid     

Coco LaFemme:

Coco LaFemme:
While it's legal to burn a U. S. flag, it is not legal to steal someone else's flag and burn it. That's called theft. Buying your own flag and setting it ablaze is perfectly fine, if that's what you want to do.


It's not legal to burn a US flag in Montana: FTA: "Lowry was originally charged with a felony charge of desecrating the flag and misdemeanor counts of negligent arson and criminal mischief."

To quote the entire Montana law:

45-8-215. Desecration of flags. (1) In this section, the term "flag" means anything that is or purports to be the official flag of the United States, the United States shield, the United States coat of arms, the Montana state flag, or a copy, picture, or representation of any of the described articles. [emphasis mine]
(2) A person commits the offense of desecration of flags if the person purposely or knowingly:
(a) publicly mutilates, defiles, or casts contempt upon the flag;
(b) places on or attaches to the flag any work, mark, design, or advertisement not properly a part of the flag or exposes to public view a flag so altered;
(c) manufactures or exposes to public view an article of merchandise or a wrapper or receptacle for merchandise upon which the flag is depicted; or
(d) uses the flag for commercial advertising purposes.
(3) A person convicted of the offense of desecration of flags shall be imprisoned in the state prison for any term not to exceed 10 years or be fined an amount not to exceed $50,000, or both.
(4) This section does not apply to flags depicted on written or printed documents or periodicals or on stationery, ornaments, pictures, or jewelry if there are not unauthorized words or designs on the flags and if the flag is not connected with any advertisement. 


So according to this law the flag is a religious object and the proper salute is to get on all fours and rub our faces into the dirt like the Muslims do to their deity. And as Abrahamic theology holds that God is right because he's bigger than you (cf. Job 38), so does this version of American patriotism hold that Might Makes Right -- that when you're told to shiat your only right is to squat and strain.

Thus our Republic is in more danger from the right than from the left or foreign enemies. Assuming, that is, that our Republic is not based upon brute force without any rationale or principles involved. If the majority agrees, contrary to what i was taught in school, that our Constitution is really a meaningless smokescreen then we're in great shape, and the only reason any given President doesn't bother to officially declare himself above the law is that the president in the USA is actually far less important to US power structure than his counterpart in Egypt to its. We have a dictatorship without a single dictator: this is our "Democracy!"

And sadly a large part of the responsibility for our current state of affairs rests with the majority of our citizens, who would rather be told what to do than participate as equals, and who get up on their hind legs only to demand they be bossed around by their Authority Figures.

In short, this is why we can't have a nice country.

25 Nov 2012 01:33 PM
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