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   It turns out the reason why your girlfriend is always nagging you and has low self-esteem is because she doesn't do porn

25 Nov 2012 03:29 PM   |   17616 clicks   |   Sun News Network
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Weaver95    [TotalFark]  
*scribbles notes*

25 Nov 2012 12:14 PM
basemetal    [TotalFark]  
Porn stars more positive, spiritually healthier than other women

Spirituality healthy? Is that why the say "Oh God" a lot?

25 Nov 2012 01:06 PM
reported    [TotalFark]  
The actresses, all of whom had been paid to work on at least one X-rated movie, ranged in age from 18 to 50, with an average career in the industry of 3.5 years. More than one-third were either married or in a serious relationship, and 44% were single.

Those statistics sound totally legit and not pulled out of the researchers' asses. Let's say "more than 1/3" is 35%. So, 35% in a serious relationship + 44% single = 79%. What is the status of the other 21%? They're not in a serious relationship or single... maybe they're in a casual polyamorous harem?

25 Nov 2012 03:09 PM
coco ebert    [TotalFark]  

reported: The actresses, all of whom had been paid to work on at least one X-rated movie, ranged in age from 18 to 50, with an average career in the industry of 3.5 years. More than one-third were either married or in a serious relationship, and 44% were single.

Those statistics sound totally legit and not pulled out of the researchers' asses. Let's say "more than 1/3" is 35%. So, 35% in a serious relationship + 44% single = 79%. What is the status of the other 21%? They're not in a serious relationship or single... maybe they're in a casual polyamorous harem?


Perhaps they didn't report on their marital status. "N/A" does happen in research.

25 Nov 2012 03:24 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  
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Abstract for the study.

Of course the website commenters, including people claiming to be associated with a university, are making ad hominem and poisoning the well attacks even though they make no claim to having looked at the study or assessed the data on their own.

25 Nov 2012 03:27 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

reported: Those statistics sound totally legit and not pulled out of the researchers' asses.


Have you actually examined the paper and the research?

25 Nov 2012 03:28 PM
TheBeastOfYuccaFlats    [TotalFark]  
Both places I've seen this article up, I've been very amused by the comments.

People sure do have a lot invested in the idea that women in porn are secretly miserable.

25 Nov 2012 03:29 PM
quatchi    [TotalFark]  
This is just the industry trying to dispel some stereotypes about people who do porn for a living. While well meaning the numbers do seem a little self serving and arbitrary. While there may be a lot of happy and well adjusted in the industry the stereotypes are not made up out of whole cloth. That noted, as the objections of the prudish, religious zealots and hardcore anti-porn feminists lessen and general societal acceptance of porn as just another aspect of life increases the old stereotypes about sex trader workers will also diminish.

25 Nov 2012 03:30 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  
I wonder if there is a typo in the abstract. That "ever tried 10 different types of drugs" doesn't make syntactic sense. Perhaps they mean "never" ?

Alright. Time to put on my academic credentials and see if I can access the actual article....

25 Nov 2012 03:31 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

quatchi: While well meaning the numbers do seem a little self serving and arbitrary.


Have you actually examined the paper and the research?

25 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
airsupport     
She does.

And yet, she still does.

25 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
Notabunny    [TotalFark]  
You're singing to the choir, Subby.

25 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
chrylis     
Any chance that good-looking women both have higher self-esteem and are more likely to be selected as porn stars?

25 Nov 2012 03:33 PM
MoronLessOff     
Well, all those cam girls do seem to have great personalities. Well, most of them do.

25 Nov 2012 03:35 PM
basemetal    [TotalFark]  
It's the big fake tits that give em the confidence.

/tits, is there nothing they can't do?

25 Nov 2012 03:36 PM
The sound of one hand clapping     
I don't think I've ever met a woman who didn't have obvious self esteem issues. Sure, lots of men do too, but we mostly hide ours and try and forget about them. Women seem to wear their issues out in the open and bring them up whenever they get a chance.

Why the heck are you women so hard on yourselves? That's what men are for.

25 Nov 2012 03:39 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: Have you actually examined the paper and the research?


Just as important is WTF is your point?

25 Nov 2012 03:42 PM
Mentalpatient87     
So, you're saying if my ex was a massive slut on camera, she wouldn't have been such a horrible biatch?

/doubt it

25 Nov 2012 03:43 PM
quatchi    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: Have you actually examined the paper and the research?


Nope. Just saying "the average woman has less self esteem than a porn star" conclusion coming as it does from an industry organ seems suspect.

This may be true but it would be very difficult to prove empirically with anything resembling definitive numbers as our current model of tricorders can't actually measure esteem with any accuracy.

Perhaps the next generation of tricorders will have more success.

25 Nov 2012 03:48 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  
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And yes, I'm sure that's THE "Sharon Mitchell," that is to say, Dr. Sharon Mitchell (NSFW ads), with her PhD from the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality. 

That first page seems to be all I can access, although there are a number of academic databases that claim to have the full text.

25 Nov 2012 03:48 PM
Gergesa     
Man no one said anything about the men in porn...what if they are all suffering from crippled sense of self worth?

25 Nov 2012 03:49 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

quatchi: Just saying "the average woman has less self esteem than a porn star" conclusion coming as it does from an industry organ seems suspect.


Not to mention the sample is way too small.

25 Nov 2012 03:49 PM
demaL-demaL-yeH     
Discriminant analysis was on the named factors was able to correctly identify whether a woman was a porn star or from the control group 83% of the time?

Mind. Blown.

/Need to know more about the sample populations/matching criteria/etc., in order to assess the significance of the findings.
//[Insert obligatory caution against correlation/causation confusion here]

25 Nov 2012 03:50 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 544x371]

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At least they put a man in charge.

25 Nov 2012 03:51 PM
strapp3r     
or, just arch your back

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/ok, not helpful

25 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
foxyshadis     

The sound of one hand clapping: I don't think I've ever met a woman who didn't have obvious self esteem issues. Sure, lots of men do too, but we mostly hide ours and try and forget about them. Women seem to wear their issues out in the open and bring them up whenever they get a chance.

Why the heck are you women so hard on yourselves? That's what men are for.


This study proves that attention whores with daddy issues can eventually be worshiped so much that they completely internalize the bullshiat their admirers shower them with. They should also study women who marry older men who shower them with everything they want.

/Nothing against them, though. Everyone finds their niche, more power to 'em, no illusions that mine is any better.

25 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

OregonVet: Just as important is WTF is your point?


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Unless you've actually rationally examined the evidence, your "opinion" on the methods and the study doesn't mean jack shiat.

Science, how the fark does it work?

25 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
Smackledorfer     
Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Sexual hangups cause nothing but trouble.

It all probably comes down to which ones do it from a mostly voluntary perspective, as opposed to sucked into the life and feeling trapped like a crack-addicted hooker.

25 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
Harry_Seldon     
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25 Nov 2012 03:52 PM
MoronLessOff     

demaL-demaL-yeH: Discriminant analysis was on the named factors was able to correctly identify whether a woman was a porn star or from the control group 83% of the time?

Mind. Blown.

/Need to know more about the sample populations/matching criteria/etc., in order to assess the significance of the findings.
//[Insert obligatory caution against correlation/causation confusion here]


Tell you what...I'll go find 100 women of various backgrounds, ethnicities and body types. I'll fark 50 of them off camera, 50 on and post the scenes. We can then interview the women and get an understanding of their emotional/mental state. Let's say we get a few other farkers to do the same and compile the data. Will that be sufficient?

/Line forms to the right, ladies.

25 Nov 2012 03:54 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: Science, how the fark does it work?


That's not science. That's first year statistics.

25 Nov 2012 03:54 PM
charmbomb     

The sound of one hand clapping: I don't think I've ever met a woman who didn't have obvious self esteem issues. Sure, lots of men do too, but we mostly hide ours and try and forget about them. Women seem to wear their issues out in the open and bring them up whenever they get a chance.

Why the heck are you women so hard on yourselves? That's what men are for.


My self esteem is great. I think people are human and sometimes feel insecure, but it's definitely not the norm for me. I also don't place my self worth in my looks or other people, because the quality of both of those wax and wane with time.

I do say there is a weird obsession with people needing to believe women are miserable, especially in porn. Heaven forbid a woman not care enough what society thinks and do something she loves and is good at!

Why do people care so much about what other people do, and why?

25 Nov 2012 03:56 PM
foxyshadis     

Gergesa: Man no one said anything about the men in porn...what if they are all suffering from crippled sense of self worth?


You try feeling good about yourself when you had too much coke off your costar's ass and can't get it up, or climax too early and get chewed out by the director for thirty minutes and end up blacklisted from the company, after you already sucked them off to get the job in the first place.

At least women only have to worry about something going horribly wrong on set once a month, for everything else there's lube.

25 Nov 2012 03:56 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

quatchi: Nope. Just saying "the average woman has less self esteem than a porn star" conclusion coming as it does from an industry organ seems suspect.


So you have no frame of reference here, Donny?

25 Nov 2012 03:56 PM
ShobuZukuri     
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25 Nov 2012 03:57 PM
MoronLessOff     

charmbomb: I do say there is a weird obsession with people needing to believe women are miserable, especially in porn.


I prefer my pron with happy women. The cam girls that seem to be enjoying themselves are much more fun to watch that the biatchy ones.

Why are there even biatchy cam girls?

25 Nov 2012 03:57 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: So you have no frame of reference here, Donny?


Yah, about that: self-reports of 177 is all one needs to know.

25 Nov 2012 03:58 PM
Smackledorfer     

OregonVet: Somacandra: Science, how the fark does it work?

That's not science. That's first year statistics.


What an incredibly stupid response.

25 Nov 2012 03:58 PM
demaL-demaL-yeH     

charmbomb: The sound of one hand clapping: I don't think I've ever met a woman who didn't have obvious self esteem issues. Sure, lots of men do too, but we mostly hide ours and try and forget about them. Women seem to wear their issues out in the open and bring them up whenever they get a chance.

Why the heck are you women so hard on yourselves? That's what men are for.

My self esteem is great. I think people are human and sometimes feel insecure, but it's definitely not the norm for me. I also don't place my self worth in my looks or other people, because the quality of both of those wax and wane with time.

I do say there is a weird obsession with people needing to believe women are miserable, especially in porn. Heaven forbid a woman not care enough what society thinks and do something she loves and is good at!

Why do people care so much about what other people do, and why?


You know some farker's going to ask for a link to your movies.

25 Nov 2012 03:59 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

OregonVet: That's not science. That's first year statistics.


There is only one question: Have you actually looked at the study and its methods? Any moron can just claim "the sample size is too small"--people on Fark do that all time to discredit something they don't happen to like. Which sample size are you talking about? Why is it too small and what would be an adequate size?

25 Nov 2012 03:59 PM
Somacandra    [TotalFark]  

OregonVet: Yah, about that: self-reports of 177 is all one needs to know.


Why is it too small and what would be an adequate size and why? Can you tell me why they chose this method and sample size? Did they anticipate any objections or account for sample size bias within the study itself? You can't actually tell me any of these things, can you?

25 Nov 2012 04:02 PM
tj614zu     
So, to cheer her up I should point out the hidden cameras next time?

25 Nov 2012 04:03 PM
charmbomb     

demaL-demaL-yeH: charmbomb: The sound of one hand clapping: I don't think I've ever met a woman who didn't have obvious self esteem issues. Sure, lots of men do too, but we mostly hide ours and try and forget about them. Women seem to wear their issues out in the open and bring them up whenever they get a chance.

Why the heck are you women so hard on yourselves? That's what men are for.

My self esteem is great. I think people are human and sometimes feel insecure, but it's definitely not the norm for me. I also don't place my self worth in my looks or other people, because the quality of both of those wax and wane with time.

I do say there is a weird obsession with people needing to believe women are miserable, especially in porn. Heaven forbid a woman not care enough what society thinks and do something she loves and is good at!

Why do people care so much about what other people do, and why?

You know some farker's going to ask for a link to your movies.


There is one movie out there on the interwebs where I am rocking out in a car and one where I am chasing my toddler around the house.

Can't fap to that.

25 Nov 2012 04:04 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: Any moron can just claim "the sample size is too small"--people on Fark do that all time to discredit something they don't happen to like.


Smart people do too. And the reason it's done "all the time" (lol) is because "the sample size is too small". No scientist serious about their work would look at that study as anything more than an opportunity to do a better one if they had the time.

25 Nov 2012 04:05 PM
charmbomb     

MoronLessOff: charmbomb: I do say there is a weird obsession with people needing to believe women are miserable, especially in porn.

I prefer my pron with happy women. The cam girls that seem to be enjoying themselves are much more fun to watch that the biatchy ones.

Why are there even biatchy cam girls?


Some people get off on that.

25 Nov 2012 04:05 PM
Doom MD     
Study conducted by the Adult Industry Healthcare Foundation? Sounds as legit as the Phillip Morris Cigarrete Health Research Foundation.

25 Nov 2012 04:05 PM
Tax Boy     

Somacandra: Why is it too small and what would be an adequate size?


That's what she said!

Also

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25 Nov 2012 04:05 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Somacandra: Why is it too small and what would be an adequate size and why? Can you tell me why they chose this method and sample size? Did they anticipate any objections or account for sample size bias within the study itself? You can't actually tell me any of these things, can you?


Your ridiculous rant is cause for suspect you are somehow involved in the study. Too bad if you are. I'm neither your mentor or teacher. And honestly I feel sorry for your passion about this ridiculous paper.

25 Nov 2012 04:07 PM
Smackledorfer     

OregonVet: Your ridiculous rant is cause for suspect you are somehow involved in the study. Too bad if you are. I'm neither your mentor or teacher. And honestly I feel sorry for your passion about this ridiculous paper.


Lack of substance and plenty of assumptions are a trend of your posts eh?

25 Nov 2012 04:09 PM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

Smackledorfer: Lack of substance and plenty of assumptions are a trend of your posts eh?


You should expect to get back what you put into it.

25 Nov 2012 04:10 PM
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