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   New surveillance video shows F-18 passing mere feet from the camera before crashing into an apartment complex in April. Amazingly no one died

27 Nov 2012 07:52 AM   |   21149 clicks   |   WTKR
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Richard_The_Clown     
Needs a password? Fail.

27 Nov 2012 07:55 AM
KrispyKritter     
Timex. It takes a lickin' and keeps in tickin'.

27 Nov 2012 07:55 AM
BalugaJoe    [TotalFark]  
did pilots eject?

27 Nov 2012 07:57 AM
Marshall Willenholly     
Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera? Probably hot-dogging trying to make a new viral video called "F-18 buzzes apartment building OMG!"

27 Nov 2012 07:58 AM
Richard_The_Clown     

Richard_The_Clown: Needs a password? Fail.


Oh, NOW it loads up! This was in my area. I had talked to a guy who lived there. Said he heard a loud boom and looked out his window and saw nothing but flames.

27 Nov 2012 07:58 AM
Chabash     
They call that carnage? It went through the space between two buildings, that does not equal carnage.

27 Nov 2012 08:01 AM
Deep Contact     
Um, it's now November.

27 Nov 2012 08:03 AM
Walker    [TotalFark]  

Deep Contact: Um, it's now November.


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27 Nov 2012 08:09 AM
Kelly McGlade     

Deep Contact: Um, it's now November.


/check calendar
I missed Halloween again. :-(

27 Nov 2012 08:16 AM
Shakespeare's Monkey    [TotalFark]  

Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?


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27 Nov 2012 08:18 AM
fappomatic     
As heavily populated as the area is, there have been very few incidents at Oceana that were a threat to residents.

27 Nov 2012 08:20 AM
Embden.Meyerhof     
FTFV:

"...driver didn't know how close he was to being part of this Good Friday Miracle..."


Well, when you put it that way, it sounds like a swell time!

27 Nov 2012 08:20 AM
ThreeEdgedSword     
SHOOM

27 Nov 2012 08:20 AM
Unobtanium     
Negative, Ghostrider, the apartment is full.

27 Nov 2012 08:21 AM
ows     

BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?


prematurely yes, which in this case is good.

27 Nov 2012 08:22 AM
Mose     
Was the pilot trying to moon the camera?

27 Nov 2012 08:23 AM
LtDarkstar     

Unobtanium: Negative, Ghostrider, the apartment is full.


Damn that guy

/made me spill my coffee again!

27 Nov 2012 08:24 AM
SirDigbyChickenCaesar     
You were in a 4g inverted dive?
Yes, ma'am.
At what range?
Um, about two meters. It was actually about one and a half I think. It was one and a half. I've got a great picture of it, and he's right there, must be one and a half.
Eh, lieutenant, what were you doing there?
Showing my RIO my new TV I got for my birthday, you can see it through the window

27 Nov 2012 08:29 AM
Mazzic518     

Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?


Thats an F-14

27 Nov 2012 08:31 AM
Marshall Willenholly     

Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14


BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

27 Nov 2012 08:35 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy     

ows: prematurely yes, which in this case is good.


prematurely? No. That is what one would call, "the last possible moment before I die a fiery death."

27 Nov 2012 08:37 AM
j0e_average     

fappomatic: As heavily populated as the area is, there have been very few incidents at Oceana that were a threat to residents.


I thought we were at war with Oceana....or is it Eastasia?

27 Nov 2012 08:37 AM
Warthog    [TotalFark]  
The official accident report on this crash (which I couldn't find again online) makes for an interesting read if you are into aviation. The pilots lost an engine while on their takeoff roll, and reasonably thought it was due to a tire failure (rubber ingestion by the engine isn't unheard of if the nose gear fails). They followed protocol and took off, then almost immediately lost most (but not all) thrust on the second engine for reasons unknown. Had they put the gear up and ditched their external tanks at that instant, they MIGHT have been able to limp it out to sea before ejecting. But their training said that with a tire failure you don't put the gear up, and you don't dump your fuel tanks over a populated area. So they flew the jet for about 90 seconds, ran out of airspeed, and ejected 50 feet above the ground (when they finally stalled and their jet stopped responding to control inputs and began to roll).

What makes the crash report interesting is that the lower level investigators put some blame on the pilots at first, saying that it was technically possible for the pilots to avoid the crash had they ditched the tanks and raised the gear. But then the SENIOR officials who had to sign off on the report said that was hogwash, and that the pilots had followed existing protocol to the letter. They said that naval aviation education about dual engine failure on takeoff was deficient, and that training needed to be changed and that the pilots did absolutely the best they could based on what they'd been taught. I was very impressed that in a high visibility accident like this, the senior brass did not throw the pilots under the bus but instead blamed the system (and the jet for failing).

/CSB (or at least I thought it was).

27 Nov 2012 08:38 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy     

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.


It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before

27 Nov 2012 08:39 AM
Embden.Meyerhof     

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.



It's looks like it has features of both, but it's supposed to be an F-14. The F-14 has the vertical stabilizers on the engine nacelles like in the picture (F-15 is offset). Also, the square "tip" between the tails/engines is an F-14 feature, not 15.

27 Nov 2012 08:41 AM
Embden.Meyerhof     

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before




Damn you and well done, etc.

27 Nov 2012 08:41 AM
SirDigbyChickenCaesar     

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.


It's an SU-27 and a Velociraptor

27 Nov 2012 08:42 AM
Mach10     

YouPeopleAreCrazy: ows: prematurely yes, which in this case is good.

prematurely? No. That is what one would call, "the last possible moment before I die a fiery death."


And people say that romance is dead.

27 Nov 2012 08:46 AM
Angry Buddha     

Embden.Meyerhof: FTFV:

"...driver didn't know how close he was to being part of this Good Friday Miracle..."


Well, when you put it that way, it sounds like a swell time!


My apartment and everything I own has been smashed and burned to slag. It's a miracle!

27 Nov 2012 08:46 AM
JackieRabbit     
"Then families certifiable morons with small children ..."

FTFT

27 Nov 2012 08:49 AM
Chevello     

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before


And it's obviously an allosaurus. But it is a cartoon

27 Nov 2012 08:51 AM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

Embden.Meyerhof: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before



Damn you and well done, etc.


It's an F-145.

27 Nov 2012 08:51 AM
tillerman35     
I love the dude in the car who drives into the intersection, pauses as if to say to himself "Hmmm. Jet just crashed into that building. Oh well, I'd better get to work or my boss is going to be pissed," and then just drives away.

Here's to you, Mr. Not-impressed-by-a-plane-crash-guy. Your stoicism is amazing.

27 Nov 2012 08:52 AM
Spanky McStupid     
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Pffffft! Amateurs!

27 Nov 2012 08:53 AM
Rustico    [TotalFark]  

Warthog: The official accident report on this crash ...


Thanks. That is interesting.

27 Nov 2012 08:55 AM
RicosRoughnecks     
THAT WAS A MISSILE SHEEPLE!1!1!

/Wharr is the debris WHARRRR??!?

27 Nov 2012 08:55 AM
SirDigbyChickenCaesar     

RicosRoughnecks: THAT WAS A MISSILE SHEEPLE!1!1!

/Wharr is the debris WHARRRR??!?


torn off their hardpoints as it passed through apartment 12-J where that shirker Jo-Jo lives.

27 Nov 2012 09:02 AM
ManifestDestiny     

ows: BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?

prematurely yes, which in this case is good.


Not this shiat again. I was there for the original thread and had to deal with the same thing then.

The pilot rode that biatch damn near the whole way down. The photographic evidence supports it completely. The path of the ejection seat as it plowed through fences clearly shows a horizontal trajectory. The ONLY way that could happen in the pilot ejected at the last damn second after trying to salvage the situation as best as he could given the circumstances.

27 Nov 2012 09:03 AM
GBB     
was this it?
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//sorry, can't tell if report, most pics blocked at work.
///I know, I know. "GBTW!"

27 Nov 2012 09:05 AM
tothekor     

Warthog: The official accident report on this crash (which I couldn't find again online) makes for an interesting read if you are into aviation. The pilots lost an engine while on their takeoff roll, and reasonably thought it was due to a tire failure (rubber ingestion by the engine isn't unheard of if the nose gear fails). They followed protocol and took off, then almost immediately lost most (but not all) thrust on the second engine for reasons unknown. Had they put the gear up and ditched their external tanks at that instant, they MIGHT have been able to limp it out to sea before ejecting. But their training said that with a tire failure you don't put the gear up, and you don't dump your fuel tanks over a populated area. So they flew the jet for about 90 seconds, ran out of airspeed, and ejected 50 feet above the ground (when they finally stalled and their jet stopped responding to control inputs and began to roll).

What makes the crash report interesting is that the lower level investigators put some blame on the pilots at first, saying that it was technically possible for the pilots to avoid the crash had they ditched the tanks and raised the gear. But then the SENIOR officials who had to sign off on the report said that was hogwash, and that the pilots had followed existing protocol to the letter. They said that naval aviation education about dual engine failure on takeoff was deficient, and that training needed to be changed and that the pilots did absolutely the best they could based on what they'd been taught. I was very impressed that in a high visibility accident like this, the senior brass did not throw the pilots under the bus but instead blamed the system (and the jet for failing).

/CSB (or at least I thought it was).


There's a reason you can't find it online again, you know.

27 Nov 2012 09:07 AM
tonguedepressor     
Technically any measurement can be defined as "mere feet"

27 Nov 2012 09:10 AM
Marcintosh     
"neighbors pore into the"

And that children, is how The Dumb begins. 


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27 Nov 2012 09:12 AM
tonguedepressor     

BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?


Yes, both did, simultaneously, and prematurely I might add.

27 Nov 2012 09:13 AM
mr intrepid     
It's an F-14.5. And that's a T-Rex.

27 Nov 2012 09:21 AM
bighairyguy    [TotalFark]  
It's an C5-A. And that's a Trilobite.

27 Nov 2012 09:25 AM
poot42     

GBB: was this it?
[t0.gstatic.com image 197x256]

//sorry, can't tell if report, most pics blocked at work.
///I know, I know. "GBTW!"


Excuse me, but WTF is that???

27 Nov 2012 09:26 AM
OnlyM3     
Marshall Willenholly

Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

There's no such thing as a "Brontosaurus" 

-themoreyouknow.jpg-

27 Nov 2012 09:27 AM
lucksi     
So we have more video of this, than the jumbo who supposedly crashed into the pentagon with it's 50 or 70 surrounding cameras.

27 Nov 2012 09:29 AM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

OnlyM3: There's no such thing as a "Brontosaurus" 

-themoreyouknow.jpg-


Riiighhhhtttt. Pull the other leg. Next thing you'll tell me is that there are only 8 planets...

27 Nov 2012 09:29 AM
airsupport     

bighairyguy: It's an C5-A. And that's a Trilobite.


WRONG WRONG WRONG.

It's obviously the Wright Flyer piloted by a housecat.

27 Nov 2012 09:31 AM
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