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   Tip #5 on winning the $425,000,000 Powerball: "Stay away from common lucky numbers like 3, 7 and 11 as well as numbers under 31 because they could be popular calendar dates like birthdays and anniversaries and would mean sharing the jackpot"

27 Nov 2012 10:29 AM   |   2710 clicks   |   Yahoo
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dletter     
Because I'd hate to have to share $425 million with even 10 people.

/people

27 Nov 2012 08:01 AM
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Mugato    [TotalFark]  
That makes no logistical sense whatsoever.

27 Nov 2012 08:14 AM
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Sybarite    [TotalFark]  
Stay away from 7 and 11? How about back door Little Joe?

27 Nov 2012 08:15 AM
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Mugato    [TotalFark]  

Sybarite: Stay away from 7 and 11? How about back door Little Joe?


Just remember to pick up the cash flow.

27 Nov 2012 08:18 AM
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colinspooky    [TotalFark]  
Nearly half a billion - no wonder there is a global cash flow problem - most of the money is now in bank accounts earning interest that can never be spent fast enough..........

27 Nov 2012 08:38 AM
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SurfaceTension    [TotalFark]  
Who actually plays the lottery with a strategy to win? If you're doing that then you've got bigger issues than which numbers to play. Just do it for fun, to let yourself dream a little. That's what I'm paying for when I buy a ticket.

27 Nov 2012 08:39 AM
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Slaxl    [TotalFark]  
Author wants to steer people away from his numbers so he doesn't have to share if he wins.

27 Nov 2012 08:41 AM
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PreMortem    [TotalFark]  
Or simply don't play at all. Then you DEFINATELY won't have to share.

Common sense isn't so common.

27 Nov 2012 08:42 AM
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give me doughnuts     

SurfaceTension: Who actually plays the lottery with a strategy to win? If you're doing that then you've got bigger issues than which numbers to play. Just do it for fun, to let yourself dream a little. That's what I'm paying for when I buy a ticket.


i249.photobucket.com

27 Nov 2012 08:47 AM
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kronicfeld    [TotalFark]  
The only "strategy" I employ on the few occasions when I buy a ticket is for the benefit of my sanity: always autopick and never re-use set numbers. That way, when those set numbers come up two drawings after you decided to stop wasting your money, you won't have the urge to slash your wrists.

27 Nov 2012 08:49 AM
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Pocket Ninja    [TotalFark]  
What a lot of people don't understand about winning the lottery is that it really isn't all that hard as long as you understand one key element of the entire equation: it's math, not luck, that matters. Specifically, it's the extrapolatables. You have to understand how the extrapolatables work to really get a clear picture of your real chances and what a sound investment in your lottery strategy will be. See, it's popular in news media to quote a figure you may have heard before: each player has a 1 in 175,000,000 chance of winning. Which sounds, let's be frank, pretty bad. But that's just the raw data with no extrapolatables added to it!

So let's examine what this truly means. 1 in 175,000,000 means that every time you play the lottery, you've got to play 175,000,000 times before you win. Which gives a totally advantage to people who've been playing for a long time -- I mean, some guy who's been buying tickets for years versus you, when it's your first time? Why is that even allowed? It shouldn't be if they want a fair competition. So, to even the playing field, what you really want to do is assemble a team of people who've been playing the lottery for a long time. So, like, say you have five friends who are experienced lottery players:

Buford: has played a total of 43 times
Henrietta: has played 112 times
Artie: has played 89 times
Gomer: has played 1,122 times, but those are just scratch-offs so they only count half (561)
Lucinda: has played 321 times

Now, add up (extrapolate) the total plays you have on your team: 1687.

So, now your chances, including yours, would appear to be 1688 in 175,000,000. But extrapolate that again and you find that that it's really works down to about 1 in 103,672. A great improvement, I'd say! So now each member of your team only needs to buy that many tickets (103, 672) to have a virtually 100 percent chance of winning.

Yes, of course, that still represents a significant investment. Tickets cost $2 each, so if you extrapolate that cost across each player, it works out to be a $207,344 investment. But consider this: The jackpot, after taxes, will amount to about $273 million. Divide that among your six team members, it's works out to $45.5 million apiece. A $45.5 million return on an initial investment of under a quarter million? Banks would salivate at the opportunity to loan on that sort of return. And you could of course decrease the initial investment by adding members to your team, although in the scenario described above it would be even a better idea to just dump Buford, who's kind of a jackass anyway, and replace him with someone who's been playing the lottery longer. Remember, in the end, it's not the *number* of people in your team that matters -- it's how many chances they've already used up. Always consider the extrapolatables, people. Always.

27 Nov 2012 08:50 AM
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FriarReb98    [TotalFark]  

Pocket Ninja: What a lot of people don't understand about winning the lottery....


Makes more sense than anything else lottery addicts would say.

\tip #6: Odds never change, no matter what your tinfoil hat says.

27 Nov 2012 09:03 AM
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beantowndog     
You either win or you lose, so buy at least two tickets.

27 Nov 2012 09:03 AM
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Makh    [TotalFark]  
I'm no expert in picking random numbers but I'm pretty sure, 'stay away from picking numbers' is a pretty fail strategy.

27 Nov 2012 09:36 AM
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Makh    [TotalFark]  
Tip #6: Have someone else pick the numbers. When things go wrong, it's always nice to have someone else to blame.

27 Nov 2012 09:47 AM
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brap    [TotalFark]  
Never play six hundred and threescore and six, you'll have to share the winnngs with millions of Vincent Price and Iron Maiden fans.

27 Nov 2012 09:48 AM
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Mentat    [TotalFark]  
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PROBABILITIES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

27 Nov 2012 10:01 AM
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doczoidberg     
I plan to buy a ticket with the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6, Powerball 7.

Are my odds of winning the same?

27 Nov 2012 10:32 AM
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wallywam1     

PreMortem: Or simply don't play at all. Then you DEFINATELY won't have to share.

Common sense isn't so common.


Poor spelling is quite common.

27 Nov 2012 10:33 AM
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JackieRabbit     
Aptly tagged. Someone at ABC needs a course in probability.

27 Nov 2012 10:34 AM
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Jon iz teh kewl     

brap: Never play six hundred and threescore and six, you'll have to share the winnngs with millions of Vincent Price and Iron Maiden fans.


"and the lottery numbers are 6-6-6-45-43-42"

some pothead with an Iron Miaden t shirt is like "oh shiat i won!"

27 Nov 2012 10:35 AM
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GoodyearPimp     

Mugato: Sybarite: Stay away from 7 and 11? How about back door Little Joe?

Just remember to pick up the cash flow.


Did momma cook you breakfast with no hog?

27 Nov 2012 10:35 AM
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hej     
Pretty sure there's no strategy in picking random numbers.

/Would take sharing a half billion $ vs sharing zero $.

27 Nov 2012 10:36 AM
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Skirl Hutsenreiter     
You have to win first to worry about sharing, and we all know how low the odds of that are.

Really, you're buying some entertainment in the form of daydreaming. Why not skip the part where you actually buy the ticket go right to the part where you daydream about winning the lottery.

27 Nov 2012 10:36 AM
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lewismarktwo     
It makes perfect sense. People use those numbers more, meaning that if those numbers DO win, you'll have a greater chance of having to share. It doesn't have anything to do with the probability of winning at all.

The best chance is playing the same numbers every single drawing without fail. Still shiatty odds tho.

27 Nov 2012 10:36 AM
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hej     

Makh: I'm no expert in picking random numbers but I'm pretty sure, 'stay away from picking numbers' is a pretty fail strategy.


I stand corrected.

27 Nov 2012 10:37 AM
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cartooned     
The article also says
"However, the more people buy tickets, the worse a person's chances get."
Ummm...

Also, Pocket Ninja, I'm not a math whiz but it doesn't work that way. Your odds of matching the numbers are 1 in 175,000,000 EVERY TIME YOU PLAY, whether you play once or 100,000 times. The only way to bring that statistic down is to play different numbers for the same drawing. play 2 different numbers on 2 tickets in one drawing and your odds are halfed. Play 2 different numbers on 2 tickets in 2 different drawings and the odds are still 1 in 175,000,000 each time.

27 Nov 2012 10:39 AM
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ChipNASA    [TotalFark]  
If I win FREE TF FOR EVERYONE FOREVER!

/anyone here work for the lottery commission???

27 Nov 2012 10:39 AM
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Billy Bathsalt     
I tried to play my lucky numbers 7,7,7,7,7 and powerball 7, but the evil lottery lady refused to sell me the ticket. Fascists.

27 Nov 2012 10:40 AM
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DeathCipris     
Because those common numbers wouldn't mean sharing the pot with 10 people as another farker suggested. It would mean sharing the pot with 10,000 people.
Even still, it is free money, so why biatch?

27 Nov 2012 10:41 AM
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Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman     

doczoidberg: I plan to buy a ticket with the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6, Powerball 7.

Are my odds of winning the same?


Well, considering you only get 5 numbers plus the Powerball, I don't think your ticket would be counted as legit.

27 Nov 2012 10:41 AM
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hypocaffeinemia    [TotalFark]  

doczoidberg: I plan to buy a ticket with the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6, Powerball 7.

Are my odds of winning the same?


Considering there are only 5 balls + powerball, I'd say you can't lose.

27 Nov 2012 10:41 AM
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Nothing To See Here     
Just want to hit the Big One so I can hang out with John MacAffee.


And pay off a couple credit cards.

27 Nov 2012 10:41 AM
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GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve     

ChipNASA: If I win FREE TF FOR EVERYONE FOREVER!

/anyone here work for the lottery commission???


I'm holding you to that.

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The only strategy you'll ever need.

27 Nov 2012 10:42 AM
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cartooned     
Okay math people help me, is 2 in 175,000,000 odds the same as 1 in 87,500,000?

27 Nov 2012 10:42 AM
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CarnySaur     

SurfaceTension: Who actually plays the lottery with a strategy to win?


www.scientificamerican.com

27 Nov 2012 10:42 AM
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Priapetic     

Pocket Ninja: What a lot of people don't understand about winning the lottery is that it really isn't all that hard as long as you understand one key element of the entire equation: it's math, not luck, that matters. Specifically, it's the extrapolatables.


"Extrapolatables" -snerk-

Beautiful, man. Beautiful.

27 Nov 2012 10:43 AM
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Billy Bathsalt     

cartooned: The article also says
"However, the more people buy tickets, the worse a person's chances get."
Ummm...

Also, Pocket Ninja, I'm not a math whiz but it doesn't work that way. Your odds of matching the numbers are 1 in 175,000,000 EVERY TIME YOU PLAY, whether you play once or 100,000 times. The only way to bring that statistic down is to play different numbers for the same drawing. play 2 different numbers on 2 tickets in one drawing and your odds are halfed 2 in 175,000. Play 2 different numbers on 2 tickets in 2 different drawings and the odds are still 1 in 175,000,000 each time.


FTFY

27 Nov 2012 10:44 AM
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HotWingConspiracy    [TotalFark]  
HotWing's Lotto Tips:

1. Buy a ticket, this will give you an opportunity to win

27 Nov 2012 10:45 AM
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LineNoise    [TotalFark]  

lewismarktwo: It makes perfect sense. People use those numbers more, meaning that if those numbers DO win, you'll have a greater chance of having to share. It doesn't have anything to do with the probability of winning at all.


I wonder if the raw data is available to confirm this. I mean, I have to imagine the overwhelming number of tickets sold, especially when the jackpot gets this big, is from the random generated numbers. So you aren't going to have anything psychologically favoring special numbers there (we could debate the true randomness of those random numbers, but that is a different thread).

So lets say you have 80% of your tickets sold randomly, and 20% where people picked the numbers, out of like a billion tickets sold.

Of those 20%, how many people avoid "special" numbers for the very reason in this thread? How many favor high numbers to avoid having to split with birthday people, etc.

I'd wager that it pretty much comes out to be a wash.

27 Nov 2012 10:46 AM
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whatsupchuck     

doczoidberg: I plan to buy a ticket with the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6, Powerball 7.

Are my odds of winning the same?


Your odds of winning are exactly the same.

Your odds of having to share the jackpot would probably be low except that now I'm going to buy an identical ticket just to thwart you.

/thwart

27 Nov 2012 10:46 AM
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zipdog     
Tip #7: Don't play unless you can afford to pay the millions of dollars in taxes that will be levied against you.

27 Nov 2012 10:46 AM
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dervish16108     
Give me a million and I can change my life with that. Heck, even a fraction would suffice.

What a weird mentality they demonstrated in this publication.

27 Nov 2012 10:46 AM
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DeathCipris     
If you pick entire subsets of number combinations, you better your odds. For instance, purchase enough lotto tickets where you have played 1-52 (or whatever the powerball caps at) in random order. You have bettered your odds because you are GUARANTEED to get 1 number correct, which means you only have to guess 4 numbers now and a powerball. The powerball is picked from a different pool of numbers and can be a repeat of a previously picked number in the 5 set. That is why the odds are so astronomical to begin with and makes it WAY harder to hit it big.

27 Nov 2012 10:47 AM
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GoodyearPimp     

cartooned: Okay math people help me, is 2 in 175,000,000 odds the same as 1 in 87,500,000?


I would say yes, but I only had a math minor so I know less about math than the average person.

would you spend $87.5M to make it a coin flip? Heads, you ~triple your money. Tails, you lose it all. I think that helps put the probability more in perspective than anything else.

27 Nov 2012 10:48 AM
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Deep Contact     
Remember, winning is everything.

27 Nov 2012 10:49 AM
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Jon iz teh kewl     

Billy Bathsalt: I tried to play my lucky numbers 7,7,7,7,7 and powerball 7, but the evil lottery lady refused to sell me the ticket. Fascists.


duh. you only played 5 7's your supposed to pick 6

27 Nov 2012 10:49 AM
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Parmenius     

Pocket Ninja: extrapolatables


This is why I go for a new cup of coffee when I see that color...

27 Nov 2012 10:50 AM
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pxlboy    [TotalFark]  

dervish16108: Give me a million and I can change my life with that. Heck, even a fraction would suffice.

What a weird mentality they demonstrated in this publication.


Also this. When one of those frequent players wins one of those astronomical jackpots, it's only a matter of time before they're broke. It's in their personality to fail, but they have already shown that they don't understand math on a basic level.

27 Nov 2012 10:50 AM
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hugram     

zipdog: Tip #7: Don't play unless you can afford to pay the millions of dollars in taxes that will be levied against you.


That's funny... but that's also how many tea baggers think...

"Why should I make more money? My taxes will increase anyway."

They sure are a bright bunch.

27 Nov 2012 10:51 AM
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