And so it begins.....

This will not end well

whoa.

Just remember, there is no spoon.

"Buckle your seat belt Dorothy, cuz Kansas is going bye bye."

I hand out free methane several times per day. All rejoice my benevolence to society.

There are also problems with so-called "thermoelectric" materials, which generate electricity when one side is hot and the other cold: a shirt made of such a fabric could draw too much heat from the body, leaving the wearer feeling chilly.

That actually sounds like a good feature to have on a hot day.

Energy harvesting pots could mean that boiling your pasta charges your mobile phone

god dang it if i wanted to multi-task i would! stop making me do things before I'm ready! worse than my wife...

I'm glad I'll be long dead before it gets way out of hand, but maybe, just maybe I'll be alive to see the beginning. It will simply be labeled 'homelessness is at 0%.' Yay, no more homeless people, that's a good thing, right?

What is the Matrix? Control. The Matrix is a computer-generated dream world built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into this.

Turning the human body into a power station sounds like a zany plotline from the Matrix movies.

Zany? That an interesting way to describe machines enslaving the human race to use them as batteries.

Here's my brilliant idea: market this as a weight-loss scheme. Obviously, if energy produced by your body is being captured to generate electricity then you will burn more calories. Therefore, you will lose weight. So, implant someone with a charger powered by their own body to both charge their cellphone and make them lose weight and you will become a billionaire.

The idea the matrix put forward that humans just wouldn't tolerate opulent idleness is ridiculous. A more interesting storyline would be a puritanical Neo discovering how humanity was plugged into a life of comfort and so he "liberates" them into a life of toil and misery. Eating the red pill is the equivalent of joining Mao to spread his little Red Book of virtue and hard work.

Mr Anderson....

JNowe: There are also problems with so-called "thermoelectric" materials, which generate electricity when one side is hot and the other cold: a shirt made of such a fabric could draw too much heat from the body, leaving the wearer feeling chilly.

That actually sounds like a good feature to have on a hot day.

I miss the McDLT...

So what happens if you take both pills

BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills

schizophrenia?

BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills

Double rainbow.

JNowe: There are also problems with so-called "thermoelectric" materials, which generate electricity when one side is hot and the other cold: a shirt made of such a fabric could draw too much heat from the body, leaving the wearer feeling chilly.

That actually sounds like a good feature to have on a hot day.

Agreed. I'd buy a shirt like that even if it produced zero electricity.

DarnoKonrad: The idea the matrix put forward that humans just wouldn't tolerate opulent idleness is ridiculous. A more interesting storyline would be a puritanical Neo discovering how humanity was plugged into a life of comfort and so he "liberates" them into a life of toil and misery. Eating the red pill is the equivalent of joining Mao to spread his little Red Book of virtue and hard work.

It was low numbers of humans that initially would reject the pleasure matrix. They would then spread their discontent to the other humans. The machine revelation that offering a subconscious choice to reject the artificial reality would keep most of these under wraps led to the situation as it existed at the beginning of the trilogy. So only the most puritanical of madmen would reject the matrix and spread their madness by searching out and disconnecting similar, if less motivated individuals.

Neo wasn't the puritan. Morpheus was.

BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills

I think it's like crossing the streams.

DarnoKonrad: The idea the matrix put forward that humans just wouldn't tolerate opulent idleness is ridiculous. A more interesting storyline would be a puritanical Neo discovering how humanity was plugged into a life of comfort and so he "liberates" them into a life of toil and misery. Eating the red pill is the equivalent of joining Mao to spread his little Red Book of virtue and hard work.

That's pretty much Cypher's storyline.

Ummm... The Professor already solved this problem many years ago:



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Wake me up when the machines are sapient.

Blue pill? You mean viagra?

"scientists are starting to take seriously the idea that one way to stem climate change might be to harvest tiny amounts of energy in the form of the body's heat, movement, metabolism and vibrations."

Scientists, creating solutions to non-existent problems since the dawn of time.

BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills

You are aware you are in the Matrix, but you just keep going, and going, and going...

I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

There are also problems with so-called "thermoelectric" materials, which generate electricity when one side is hot and the other cold: a shirt made of such a fabric could draw too much heat from the body, leaving the wearer feeling chilly.

Unless I'm horrifically mistaken, they generate electricity when there's a temperature differential OR create a temperature differential when powered with electricity. There's no situation in which just having the shirt on is going to draw heat out of your body [any faster than you'd have lost it to the environment naked]. If you've managed to pump heat w/o using energy, congratulations on busting thermodynamics - you might want to apply your technology to something besides a shirt.

Anyone?

Kuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

That would be weird. Ing.

Kuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

Breathing and walking provide the pumping action.

/long live the fighters.

TKuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

that would only lead to a life of crime and being killed by the punisher

BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills 

walkerhound: "scientists are starting to take seriously the idea that one way to stem climate change might be to harvest tiny amounts of energy in the form of the body's heat, movement, metabolism and vibrations."

Scientists, creating solutions to non-existent problems since the dawn of time.

yea, fark them, I mean, what if we create a better world for nothing!

CygnusDarius: BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills

Double rainbow.

"BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?"

/someone had to...

Like our computer overlords won't be able to find a better use for us than as batteries

sleep lack: BattleFrenchie28: So what happens if you take both pills 
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follow the mescaline bunnie

Meerlar: Kuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

Breathing and walking provide the pumping action.

/long live the fighters.

You wear your suit desert style, who taught you that?

SuperT: Meerlar: Kuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

Breathing and walking provide the pumping action.

/long live the fighters.

You wear your suit desert style, who taught you that?

Googling it seemed the proper way

but wouldn't anything else make a better battery like a potato or a battery?

"...a pacemaker that harvests the energy of the heartbeat itself might operate for a lifetime."

I suppose that is TECHNICALLY correct.

DarnoKonrad: SuperT: Meerlar: Kuta: I hope they figure out how to power a stillsuit first.

Breathing and walking provide the pumping action.

/long live the fighters.

You wear your suit desert style, who taught you that?

Googling it seemed the proper way

*He will know your ways...* *is he the mahdi?*

DarnoKonrad: A more interesting storyline would be a puritanical Neo discovering how humanity was plugged into a life of comfort and so he "liberates" them into a life of toil and misery.

Kinda like the Butlerian Jihad from "Dune" then...

/ no prequels to that book exist, as far as I'm concerned..

JNowe: There are also problems with so-called "thermoelectric" materials, which generate electricity when one side is hot and the other cold: a shirt made of such a fabric could draw too much heat from the body, leaving the wearer feeling chilly.

That actually sounds like a good feature to have on a hot day.

No, because thermoelectrics WORK on a differential. On a hot day, they would make your skin hotter.

So you've got a body temp of 98.6F and generating ~100W of heat (that's an actual scientific estimate). The air is 90F. Even with your skin exposed to a 90F breeze, and the skin temp reaches 90F, you won't get 100W of heat loss, thus we add sweat to make up the difference. Well if we cover skin surface with a generator, the best situation possible would be that the skin gets to 90F, except evaporation is defeated, so that probably won't happen. Thermoelectrics seek to insulate and act as a pump between two reservoirs of energy, so they're not like putting a shirt of thermally conductive aluminum on.

Without a temp differential of warmer-on-the-inside, colder-on-the-outside, you wouldn't generate electricity.

Probably pointless. I mean just carrying around a small battery would be more practical, if you needed the power. We like to envision our needs on an extended camping trip through the woods, away from a vehicle. But for most people, that's pretty darn rare, you don't actually NEED your iPad that much in the woods, and it's the last place you'd want to be encumbered with weird, impractical techno-clothing. You'd just add a deck-of-cards sized battery to your gear and carry more than this thing could ever generate in a few days.

Now there IS a big, big case for implants. Pacemakers SUCK in that they have to have their battery surgically replaced periodically (it's placed where it's easy to get to, though). In the 70's they actually had plutonium batteries which would last a lifetime, but this was since deemed a bad idea. We'd LIKE to do other implants, but powering even low-power electronics over like 50+ years is problematic. If we could just make a piezo generator that evolved a tiny amount of power with each beat of the body's pulse, that could very well make it self-sustaining.

DarnoKonrad: The idea the matrix put forward that humans just wouldn't tolerate opulent idleness is ridiculous. A more interesting storyline would be a puritanical Neo discovering how humanity was plugged into a life of comfort and so he "liberates" them into a life of toil and misery. Eating the red pill is the equivalent of joining Mao to spread his little Red Book of virtue and hard work.

Nope, I don't agree. Humans love their misery, either from the drama high of experiencing it, or of rolling around like a pig in shiat in others misery. Haven't you noticed that there's always someone who farks up a nice day by just being moody for no reason?
We love misery, we love conflict. The only way we can enjoy being happy is by comparing our happiness to others misery. If everyone is happy, then no one is special...and that breeds boredom and drama...

genner: but wouldn't anything else make a better battery like a potato or a battery?

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GlaDos is not amused.

Piezoelectric materials have been around for a while, and this is a fairly obvious (though still excellent) use for them.
I'm more impressed with the new breed of glucose-based power sources.

doesn't piezo mean motion? the matrix form of battery power required a non moving human

Gawdzila: Piezoelectric materials have been around for a while, and this is a fairly obvious (though still excellent) use for them.
I'm more impressed with the new breed of glucose-based power sources.

How is this better than Automail? That stuff makes you super-strong and doesn't even require an external power source.

/why the fark is Ed so determined to get back his sucky flesh arm and leg??

HailRobonia: Blue pill? You mean viagra?

If that's the blue pill it means we're getting laid!