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   Colorado governor wants to put homeless veterans in prison

30 Nov 2012 12:07 AM   |   19801 clicks   |   Denver Post
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cman    [TotalFark]  
Ok, I chuckled

29 Nov 2012 08:33 PM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  

cman: Ok, I chuckled


How long before someone doesn't read the article and starts freaking out?

29 Nov 2012 08:42 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     
I did an official double-take.

Well played, subby.

29 Nov 2012 08:45 PM
R.A.Danny    [TotalFark]  
This is an ou... Oh, not a bad idea at all. I hope they get the counseling they need, way too many people are homeless because they're lost their mibs.

29 Nov 2012 08:48 PM
Nadie_AZ     

Bathia_Mapes: cman: Ok, I chuckled

How long before someone doesn't read the article and starts freaking out?


I agree with cman. Nice job, subs.

29 Nov 2012 08:50 PM
trivial use of my dark powers     
How is that cool.....oh.

Dammit, subby. OK, That was a good one. It' a good idea too.

29 Nov 2012 08:56 PM
brap    [TotalFark]  

Bathia_Mapes: cman: Ok, I chuckled

How long before someone doesn't read the article and starts freaking out?



Rambo has already fashioned a feces-dipped punji pit at the gov's doorway.
 
SUBBY DREW FIRST BLOOD!

29 Nov 2012 09:17 PM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  

brap: Bathia_Mapes: cman: Ok, I chuckled

How long before someone doesn't read the article and starts freaking out?


Rambo has already fashioned a feces-dipped punji pit at the gov's doorway.
 
SUBBY DREW FIRST BLOOD!


I love you so much, Brap. ;-)

29 Nov 2012 09:48 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  
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29 Nov 2012 11:03 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  
Well played, Pvt. Smitty!

29 Nov 2012 11:48 PM
Tumunga     
Why do the libbies hate veterans?

/DNRA

30 Nov 2012 12:08 AM
SmackLT    [TotalFark]  
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30 Nov 2012 12:09 AM
moops     
I hickenlooper'ed.

30 Nov 2012 12:09 AM
skinink     
He should give the homeless Buckwheats instead.

30 Nov 2012 12:12 AM
ultraholland     
R.A.Danny: they're lost their mibs.

This.

30 Nov 2012 12:12 AM
wildcardjack     
Hey look, a few years ago Colorado stopped giving a shiat about pot smokers and suddenly the jails are undercrowded to the extent they're getting shut down.

30 Nov 2012 12:13 AM
Somaticasual     

SmackLT: [i177.photobucket.com image 600x345]


On the upside, that town had to have been cleared of mosquitos that night..

30 Nov 2012 12:13 AM
Gyrfalcon     
The governor's office is asking for $840,000-and an additional $6 million or so over the next two fiscal years-to repurpose the former Fort Lyon Correctional Facility in Las Animas.

And cheap at six times the price. Good on you, governor.

30 Nov 2012 12:14 AM
diaphoresis     
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dnrtfa

30 Nov 2012 12:18 AM
Elmo Jones     
I too, did a doubletake. Good job subs.
FTA: "Would you really feel that this facility, with all its maintenance issues, is the best place?" Levy asked.
Me: I'll bet someone around would love to learn how to fix/maintain those issues. Maybe even make it their job. Those vets are crafty like that.

30 Nov 2012 12:28 AM
jabelar     
I do agree with some of the skepticism. Basically there are two categories of homeless people -- the temporarily homeless and the chronically homeless.

The chronically homeless are very difficult to manage this way as they may be actually incapable of getting back on their feet. Many of them already have options for shelter but choose to continue on the street -- they may not want to be in an institutional setting. Some of them are outright mentally ill. Many have severe alcoholism or drug habits. Some are paranoid, agoraphobic, or otherwise suspicious of people, government or institutions.

if it is full of people that are seriously mentally ill or with addictions then it does actually become a mental hospital of sorts, not the rehabilitation center imagined.

30 Nov 2012 12:29 AM
Nothing To See Here     
I hope they all have Cell phones . . .

30 Nov 2012 12:30 AM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

ultraholland: R.A.Danny: they're lost their mibs.

This.


What's a mib?

30 Nov 2012 12:31 AM
Lsherm    [TotalFark]  

wildcardjack: Hey look, a few years ago Colorado stopped giving a shiat about pot smokers and suddenly the jails are undercrowded to the extent they're getting shut down.


Fort Lyon was a prison dedicated to old, mentally ill and transgendered inmates in the Colorado state prison system. It was closed because the recession made the state re-evaluate the money it spent on specialty prisons. Also, the rate of violent crime has been dropping since 1995, so there are less inmates overall.

So pot may have been part of it, but a very small part.

30 Nov 2012 12:31 AM
dj_bigbird    [TotalFark]  

fusillade762: ultraholland: R.A.Danny: they're lost their mibs.

This.

What's a mib?


It's used in SNMP. It's called a Management Information Block - it's a way to get (or send) information to/from a device like a router on it's stats, etc.

30 Nov 2012 12:36 AM
little big man     
"I survived Korea just to get sent to Las Animas?"

30 Nov 2012 12:36 AM
duffblue     
All kidding aside, it's really terrible that veterans still have nowhere to go. Seeing a kid younger than me homeless and helpless because of PTSD, some sickening shiat.

30 Nov 2012 12:36 AM
ultraholland     
fusillade762: What's a mib?

Exactly.

30 Nov 2012 12:36 AM
Kevin72     
Hickenlooper is a good governor. I like him. A lot.

30 Nov 2012 12:41 AM
Lsherm    [TotalFark]  

Elmo Jones: Me: I'll bet someone around would love to learn how to fix/maintain those issues. Maybe even make it their job. Those vets are crafty like that.


As someone who owns a 160 year-old house and works in an 80 year-old building - labor usually isn't the only big cost factor for maintenance, material is also a big expense. If that complex has ten 60 year-old boilers, all the dedication in the world isn't going to fix them on the cheap.

Plus, as a state facility, they wouldn't be allowed to house people in a building that was fixed by crafty amateurs. There may also be union contracts to deal with, code violations that are seemingly benign but can't be ignored, etc.

30 Nov 2012 12:41 AM
Nothing To See Here     
" This is old world is one big prison yard.
some of us are prisoners, some of us are guards."

Bob Dylan

30 Nov 2012 12:42 AM
Mimic_Octopus     
ftfa : The prison was closed last year because of a declining prison population


this has to be BS. there is not a single declinig prison population in the entire US. they must mean population transferred from public to private facility , if you did some digging.

30 Nov 2012 12:44 AM
jtown     
Declining prison population? Why don't they lease it out to just about any other state in the nation? Many states are turning prisoners away. I find it hard to believe they don't have enough prisoners to fill it.

30 Nov 2012 12:45 AM
HotWingAgenda    [TotalFark]  

Gyrfalcon: The governor's office is asking for $840,000-and an additional $6 million or so over the next two fiscal years-to repurpose the former Fort Lyon Correctional Facility in Las Animas.

And cheap at six times the price. Good on you, governor.


TFA doesn't say a word about where nearly $7 million is supposed to come from. It's a cool idea, and makes me feel better than some other things they could do with the property... but money matters. And they didn't really explain how these hordes of hungry hungry hobos are supposed to get there.

30 Nov 2012 12:45 AM
DarkSoulNoHope     

ultraholland: fusillade762: What's a mib?

Exactly.


I know what it is, and I will tell you the whole conspiracy behin... Wait, hold on, I got to get the door. There's some washed out rapper and some old dude at the door wearing sunglasses saying that they want me to look at something. They're probably Jehovah's Witnesses, I'll be back in a minute after I shoo them away to tell you all the rest.

30 Nov 2012 12:46 AM
Mimic_Octopus     
also, what farking prison only sleeps 200 people ? do they mean a jail ? they should be able to get 1000 in there at least.

30 Nov 2012 12:47 AM
BarkingUnicorn     
The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.

30 Nov 2012 12:51 AM
Spartacus Outlaw     
This sounds like an awful idea.Send them all to some broken-down, out-of-the-way human storage center. How very condescending and dismissive.

30 Nov 2012 12:54 AM
Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus     

jtown: Declining prison population? Why don't they lease it out to just about any other state in the nation? Many states are turning prisoners away. I find it hard to believe they don't have enough prisoners to fill it.


New Guantanamo?

30 Nov 2012 12:57 AM
Mimic_Octopus     

Spartacus Outlaw: This sounds like an awful idea.Send them all to some broken-down, out-of-the-way human storage center. How very condescending and dismissive.


they are farking homeless, do you want to build them brand new penthouses with balconies and rooftop gardens in the middle of downtown like farking idiots in portland do, whil taxpayers and workers get priced out ? abandoned strip malls in the burbs is a better idea though.

30 Nov 2012 12:58 AM
Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus     

BarkingUnicorn: The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.


Yeah but if you need a sex change, Trinidad is only 99 miles away.

30 Nov 2012 01:01 AM
BarkingUnicorn     

Mimic_Octopus: ftfa : The prison was closed last year because of a declining prison population


this has to be BS. there is not a single declinig prison population in the entire US. they must mean population transferred from public to private facility , if you did some digging.


Ft. Lyons specialized in inmates with serious medical conditions and transgendered inmates. That population declined. The few remaining inmates were transferred to a state-run women's prison.

30 Nov 2012 01:04 AM
Lsherm    [TotalFark]  

jtown: Declining prison population? Why don't they lease it out to just about any other state in the nation? Many states are turning prisoners away. I find it hard to believe they don't have enough prisoners to fill it.


That facility is so old I'm betting private companies don't want it, and the state doesn't have enough money to make it serviceable.

30 Nov 2012 01:04 AM
Linkster    [TotalFark]  

BarkingUnicorn: The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.


Horrific blizzards every year? If SNOWS, it's windy. FUKING PUSSY!

30 Nov 2012 01:04 AM
twat_waffle     

fusillade762: ultraholland: R.A.Danny: they're lost their mibs.

This.

What's a mib?


It's a mibibyte, which is 1024 KiB, and 1085764 B.

/did they lose some RAM?
//or did a few HD sectors get corrupted?

30 Nov 2012 01:06 AM
BarkingUnicorn     

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: BarkingUnicorn: The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.

Yeah but if you need a sex change, Trinidad is only 99 miles away.


Long ago, in the days of dialup BBSes, I had a friend who worked as an anesthesiologist in Trinidad. He was a mail-order minister who fought the IRS in Tax Court 41 times, pro se, and won all but one case (not the last one). He loved working the sex changes.

30 Nov 2012 01:11 AM
100 Watt Walrus     

BarkingUnicorn: The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.


Came here to say this. At first glance it seems like a great idea, and it may well work. But the residents at this place will have few options for interacting with the real world when they (presumably) start getting their shiat together. In addition to the weather sucking ass for several months of the year, there are only four tiny towns within an hour's bus ride, and the nearest thing that could be called a city (Pueblo) is at least 85mi away.

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It certainly possible, if this facility succeeds its residents more than it fails them, that people living there could become contributing members of society in the little nearby burgs of Las Animas, La Junta, Rocky Ford and Lamar. But it's also likely that those towns will see trouble from this plan which could be hard for spread-thin county sheriffs to handle.

Still, given the relatively modest budget, it seems like it might be worth a shot.

30 Nov 2012 01:12 AM
BarkingUnicorn     

Linkster: BarkingUnicorn: The problem will be getting anyone in his right mind to go to Las Animas voluntarily. It is far out on the southeastern plains, the only incorporated town in its county. Horrific blizzards every winter. 1.3 sq. miles. Pop. 2400ish. Biggest claim to fame is the Kit Carson Museum.

Horrific blizzards every year? If SNOWS, it's windy. FUKING PUSSY!


Says the guy in Arizona. :-)

30 Nov 2012 01:12 AM
Gyrfalcon     

Mimic_Octopus: Spartacus Outlaw: This sounds like an awful idea.Send them all to some broken-down, out-of-the-way human storage center. How very condescending and dismissive.

they are farking homeless, do you want to build them brand new penthouses with balconies and rooftop gardens in the middle of downtown like farking idiots in portland do, whil taxpayers and workers get priced out ? abandoned strip malls in the burbs is a better idea though.


The space is there, it's already partitioned, has cafeteria, recreation, housing and other facilities. It's set up to handle a transitional population; yet one that will be in place for extended periods. It's equipped to monitor that population and facilitate their training and movement back into society. And it has transportation access already in place for moving people and supplies in and out. Why NOT use it for housing the homeless?

The hard part won't get getting the homeless vets out there; it will be encouraging staff and other professionals to relocate out to BFE to provide services for them. Social workers are not going to want to live a thousand miles from nowhere to assist homeless vets, no matter how committed they are to the cause.

30 Nov 2012 01:13 AM
Spartacus Outlaw     
Well, that's my point. No-one wants to be there, especially no-luck-Joes that have no way to get out of there. It's a one-way farking ticket to the end of it all.

30 Nov 2012 01:17 AM
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