PROTIP tag?

edmo: PROTIP tag?

Don't drink vodka and you should be alright.

Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

CPT Ethanolic: Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

No, the article writer just sucks ass at writing an article.

He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

BronyMedic: He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

"Look at the big brain on BronyMedic! You a smart motherfarker."

A trolley ride to the theater apparently means something different there than in San Francisco.

Forget the Arizona tag. This guy needs is own fark tag.

/why u no hero tag subby?

Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all life's problems.

BronyMedic: CPT Ethanolic: Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

No, the article writer just sucks ass at writing an article.

He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

Exactly. And no one seems to consider the possibility that his students tried to poison him.

Mugato: BronyMedic: He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

"Look at the big brain on BronyMedic! You a smart motherfarker."

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Hey. I got to make a Lindsey Lohan joke AND a biology joke. Today is a good day.

Thumbs up for alternative medicine.

Slartibeerfest: Thumbs up for alternative medicine.



Tell me. Dear Storm. Do you perhaps know what we call alternative medicine that works?

Medicine.

Nothing should be added to whisky. Including an 'e'.

To whiskey!

BronyMedic: Slartibeerfest: Thumbs up for alternative medicine.



Tell me. Dear Storm. Do you perhaps know what we call alternative medicine that works?

Medicine.

we also call it "affordable treatments for people without insurance". Acupuncture and chiropractic work GREAT for chronic pain and won't land you in the poor house. So get off your high horse, Mr. Middle Class

I can't drink without puking.

The whole "vodka interfered with diabetes medication" is BS in this instance. Although unclear from the article, it appeared as if the guy's students homemade the vodka, or at least purchased something really crappy, which was obviously tainted with methanol.

Competitive inhibition of methanol with ethanol is a well-established medical treatment. I'm surprised that even after he tried "sleeping it off" that the treatment still worked. What he needs to do to avoid this in the future is avoid home distilled or crappy alcohol.

Whiskey is better than vodka.

willfullyobscure: Acupuncture and chiropractic work GREAT for chronic pain and won't land you in the poor house. So get off your high horse, Mr. Middle Class



The evidence for accupuncture is sketchy at best, and the field is massively overrun with woo about energy fields rather than targeting an obvious biological basis for why it works in some people - the release of endorphins, enkephalons, and endocannabanoids.

Nothing a chiropractor does is any different than what a Physical Therapist would do, for cheaper, and using scientific basis for doing so. Chiropractic "medicine" is based on a late 19th century belief that spinal injury and "subluxations" of the vertebra are responsible for all disease in the human body.

So, he had rye surgery?

Slartibeerfest: Thumbs up for alternative medicine.

This is NOT "alternative" medicine. This is actual evidence-based scientific medicine. "Alternative" medicine treatment would have been: Have some Ginseng and meditate, which would have ended up with the guy being blind and possibly dead.

BronyMedic: CPT Ethanolic: Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

No, the article writer just sucks ass at writing an article.

He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

Dude. I'm rolling here... :D

The next time I run my still I'm going to "Drain the Lohan" instead of dumping the heads.

Just a warning: if you drink tainted vodak, DO NOT attempt to get better by drinking whisyek.

martid4: I can't drink without puking.

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I stand corrected.

Johnny Walker Black for $55. What a bargain.

When an aspirin is $10 at the hospital, this guy had better win the lottery to pay for that whiskey.

Protip: medical alcohol is usually everclear without the fancy tax.

I was fumbling around the bedroom for the light switch but ... I'd just gone completely blind."

He thought he'd sleep it off, but the next morning...

Yes, because when one is suddenly struck completely blind, a logical thought is "Eh, maybe this will fix it self if i wake up in the morning."

BronyMedic: CPT Ethanolic: Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

No, the article writer just sucks ass at writing an article.

He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

Why was it relevant that he had diabetes? What about everyone else who drank the vodka? Why could they wait so long before administring ethanol? Why doesn't a hospital have ethanol, how do they clean?

BronyMedic: CPT Ethanolic: Gonna have to call bullshiate on this story. Diabetes does not respond differently to liquor. But your mom does.

/boom.

No, the article writer just sucks ass at writing an article.

He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

I watched that episode of House too

Not vodka. Methanol. Pretty sure that vodka, by definition, isn't methanol. Bootleg crap that some douche called vodka, but it wasn't farking vodka.

Pat Travers unavailable for comment.

/obscure? or just stupid?

Huh. I always thought alcohol dehydrogenase turned methanol into formaldehyde, which was then converted to formic acid by another enzyme, aldehyde dehydrogenase. I think you skipped an intermediate step there, BronyMedic.

Oh damn, reread you post, and now I'm dumb. I'll go be dumb somewhere else.

He is a catering tutor. His students gave him a bottle of ick. That's a flunking.

martid4: I can't drink without puking.

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X-Men reject?.

Mugato: BronyMedic: He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

"Look at the big brain on BronyMedic! You a smart motherfarker."

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/hates educated men

She blinded ME, with vodak!

bhcompy: Mugato: BronyMedic: He got a hold of some tainted vodka, and drank methanol. Methanol is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase into formaldehyde, which is further metabolized into formic acid. Formic Acid LOVES your optic nerve. It likes to fark it like Lindsey Lohan in a free wet bar hotel. Ethanol competitively inhibits Methanol metabolism by having a higher affinity for ADH than it. So you pee the methanol out rather than turn it into Lindsey Lohan

"Look at the big brain on BronyMedic! You a smart motherfarker."

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/hates educated men

And what is that from?

spawn73: Why could they wait so long before administring ethanol? Why doesn't a hospital have ethanol, how do they clean?

Well, to be quite honest, no one really uses ethanol anymore unless they have to. No one cleans with ethanol anymore, it's all solutions that are Quaternary Ammoniums, Bleech-based compounds, or other harsh chemicals designed to be tuberculocidal. Even then, it's given IV, not PO, usually.Fomepizole is the drug that's more commonly stocked and used, and is more predictable than targeting a BAC of 0.1 - 0.15 (IIRC, it's been a LONG time since I've gone over ethanol drips.) Who knows. Their stock may have been expired, or they might not have even had it in the formulary.

siyuntz: Huh. I always thought alcohol dehydrogenase turned methanol into formaldehyde, which was then converted to formic acid by another enzyme, aldehyde dehydrogenase. I think you skipped an intermediate step there, BronyMedic.

Yes I did. Thank you for correcting me.

Well, as a long time home brewer and microbiologist/biochemist, I can tell you that there is no way in the wide world that methanol will ever be present in any commercial brand of alcohol. Also I can tell you that if the alcohol in the vodak reacted with this fellow's meds, so would the alcohol in the whisky.

I have had many many glasses of homemade beer and wine, and gallons of prairie shine, and guess what? Nary a problem, nor with anyone I know. The only time I was associated with methanol poisoning was when, as an army medical assistant, seven soldiers came into the MIR having had a punch with gasline antifreeze as one of the components. And yes, we administered brandy. One died, two were blinded and the others walked away from it.

\yup
\\likely attempted murder.

Hey Doc, I can't see shiat. All is darkness. Got any of that Johny left?

spawn73: Why doesn't a hospital have ethanol, how do they clean?

alcohol for cleaning is probably isopropyl or a mix of ethanol and methanol

Johnny Walker Black? B'ah! Just kill me already rather than feeding me that crap!



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meyerkev: And what is that from?

the movie tombstone. you should watch it if you haven't. you will also get other references mentioned around here a lot like "well, bye.jpg"

GoldDude: Johnny Walker Black? B'ah! Just kill me already rather than feeding me that crap!

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Please. This is what REAL MEN drink. It puts hair on your balls.



/what's the word

The doc asked if he'd been drinking and he said no. Lying to emergency personnel is a quick way to be not alive.

"Johnnie Walker Black Label. It was good whisky, yeah."

Another lie.

The price difference I equate to supply chain issues in NZ.

What the hell was he doing in a coma for five days?

An overweight diabetic drinking moonshine. And a catering tutor. Whom should know something about spirits.

GoldDude: Johnny Walker Black? B'ah! Just kill me already rather than feeding me that crap!

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Such swill...  I'd drink Drink warm michelob before that utter shiat.

Sleeping Monkey

Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all life's problems.

Alcohol never solved any problems . . . but neither did a glass of milk!

Johnny Walker Black may not have been the best whiskey in that liquor store, but it was DEFINITELY not the cheapest.

I'm just picturing the doctor walking into the store, grabbing a $7 pint bottle of some random non-vodak liquor, and then slapping his forehead as he remembers that he's a doctor. "Wait, I've changed my mind, what do you have in a giant bottle of something needlessly expensive?"