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   Internet in Syria is back up after a two day blackout, as holiday shoppers look for bargains on "Jihad Monday"

03 Dec 2012 09:04 AM   |   1188 clicks   |   Bloomberg
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ideamaster     
Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.

03 Dec 2012 09:05 AM
papa_neslo     
The deals I hear are to die for.

03 Dec 2012 09:06 AM
Djkb     
Sales of hot dogs, duct tape, and timex watches are skyrocketing.

03 Dec 2012 09:22 AM
THX 1138     
"Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?

03 Dec 2012 09:24 AM
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist     
Cutting off the rebels supply of porn will only make them fight harder.

03 Dec 2012 09:25 AM
ChubbyTiger     

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Cutting off the rebels supply of porn will only make them fight harder.


I would think exactly the opposite.

03 Dec 2012 09:27 AM
stevarooni    [TotalFark]  
Pretty much, THX 1138. It's usually more appropriate when it involves Mulsim-on-non-Muslim crime, but it does come up automatically with regards to Muslims.

03 Dec 2012 09:28 AM
lenfromak    [TotalFark]  

THX 1138: "Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?


The word does mean struggle.

03 Dec 2012 09:29 AM
Father_Jack     

lenfromak: THX 1138: "Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?

The word does mean struggle.


Take Adolfiya al Hitler's "mein Jihad", for example

03 Dec 2012 09:31 AM
pag1107    [TotalFark]  
Top searches now include "gas mask," "nerve gas antidote," "ack...cough...dying," and "weather at The Hague"

03 Dec 2012 09:37 AM
SkunkWerks     

THX 1138: "Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?


Would you prefer Fatwa Fridays then?

03 Dec 2012 09:39 AM
RockChalkH1N1     

papa_neslo: The deals I hear are to die for.


+1 good sir

03 Dec 2012 09:40 AM
farkingatwork     

SkunkWerks: THX 1138: "Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?

Would you prefer Fatwa Fridays then?


I always thought Mujahideen Mondays was a great followup.

03 Dec 2012 09:45 AM
Jiro Dreams Of McRibs     
I hear the retailers are offering Free Strapping.

/does this bundle of $EEF0UR and D3T0NAT0R$ make my ass look big?

03 Dec 2012 09:52 AM
BitwiseShift     

pag1107: Top searches now include "gas mask," "nerve gas antidote," "ack...cough...dying," and "weather at The Hague"


But if you're indicted, you don't have to worry about accommodations at the Hague.

Those won't include that hotel with the great car elevator in the alley that goes to the underground parking lot.

03 Dec 2012 10:06 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto     
There was a really great article I just read about the cat and mouse game normal folks are having with Syrian authorities right now...

Yay, actually found it:

The Hackers of Damascus.

03 Dec 2012 10:16 AM
kd8our     

ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.


However it is far easier to track and find a radio. otherwise yes.

Some things I have heard have suggested what I just said. It forced them to use radios and such. That could expose them. It's the reason Osama didn't use a radio much, if at all, while on the run.

03 Dec 2012 10:41 AM
DarkSoulNoHope     

farkingatwork: SkunkWerks: THX 1138: "Jihad", subby? What, does that word just automatically apply to any conflict when Muslims are involved?

Would you prefer Fatwa Fridays then?

I always thought Mujahideen Mondays was a great followup.


Less boring than Salat Saturdays.

03 Dec 2012 10:50 AM
tuxq     

kd8our: ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.

However it is far easier to track and find a radio. otherwise yes.

Some things I have heard have suggested what I just said. It forced them to use radios and such. That could expose them. It's the reason Osama didn't use a radio much, if at all, while on the run.


As a ham radio operator who will run the occasional fox hunt, triangulation is amazingly simple with the military equipment out there. But there are ways to cover your signal, including bouncing it off objects with a well-tuned yagi-style antenna. You just need to keep your cone tight. Giggidy.

I would gladly include my call with this post, but I'd rather my personal info not make it to fark

03 Dec 2012 10:52 AM
Funk Brothers     
Nice job subby. Hilarious headline.

03 Dec 2012 11:13 AM
offmymeds     
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03 Dec 2012 11:16 AM
DarkSoulNoHope     

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BOGO!


More like YOLO!

03 Dec 2012 11:23 AM
FatherChaos     
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03 Dec 2012 11:36 AM
glassbottomboatcaptain     
"Jihad Monday"?

Because they're arab right? And you were sitting there, thinking up a headline and you said to yourself 'hey, Arabs probably say jihad a lot, right? Yeah, let's use that..." So if this was a story about Ireland, you'd say 'Potato monday', or Jewish you'd say 'Bagel Monday', or British people you'd say 'Tea and crumpets Monday'? That sort of thing?

I just want to clarify here, I'm not offended by this headline because I think it's racist. I'm offended because it's lazy, shiatty humor of the highest order. Even worse than puns.

03 Dec 2012 11:49 AM
SkunkWerks     

glassbottomboatcaptain: it's lazy, shiatty humor of the highest order


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03 Dec 2012 11:57 AM
Occam's Taser     
Thank God the internet's back.

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03 Dec 2012 12:11 PM
anfrind    [TotalFark]  

kd8our: ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.

However it is far easier to track and find a radio. otherwise yes.

Some things I have heard have suggested what I just said. It forced them to use radios and such. That could expose them. It's the reason Osama didn't use a radio much, if at all, while on the run.


In Al-Qaeda's early days, Bin Laden made extensive use of a satellite phone to communicate with his minions. It didn't give away his position (some satellite phones do, some don't), but he stopped using it after he realized that the NSA was listening to his phone calls, which would explain why so many of his early terror plots were foiled.

03 Dec 2012 12:49 PM
myrrh     

ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.


Not enough bandwidth. You ever try downloading warez at 19.2 kbps?

03 Dec 2012 01:49 PM
myrrh     

glassbottomboatcaptain:
I just want to clarify here, I'm not offended by this headline because I think it's racist. I'm offended because it's lazy, shiatty humor of the highest order. Even worse than puns.


Jeez. Lighten up, Francis. I'm sure you submitted a better headline, after all.

03 Dec 2012 01:52 PM
GranoblasticMan     

myrrh: ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.

Not enough bandwidth. You ever try downloading warez at 19.2 kbps?


Yep.

/Definitely don't miss the days of 50-part archives for one stupid game

03 Dec 2012 01:59 PM
Great Porn Dragon     

ideamaster: Get a ham radio, then you never have to worry about someone cutting the wires.


...until such time that either amateur radio becomes illegal (and all former amateur radio operators become Suspect Persons by the regime) or amateur radio licensing is restricted to friends of the regime, that is.

Doubly so when your country comes under international sanctions and having a company send material to you to make an amateur radio functionally becomes illegal under both your country's laws AND the laws of the country you're trying to get the bits and valves and doodads from in the first place.

Yes, I've heard "Y NOT HAM RADIO?@?" a lot re Syria. What most folks don't realise:

a) Syria has had a peak in the modern era of FIFTEEN licensed amateur radio operators who all have generally had to use one club radio station in Damascus--and pretty much you did not get an amateur radio license unless you were friendly to the Assad regime. (Yes, there's a similarly small number of amateur radio operators in another place--over in P5-land--but no North Korean is going to be getting an amateur radio ticket unless they are very in with the juche cult, to put it mildly.) Most of the significant amateur radio operation in Syria since the 60s other than the STARS (Syria's equivalent to the ARRL) club station has been via DXpeditions with friendly hams overseas who have come to Syria to operate their own equipment--it's always been one of the hardest areas (that's permanently occupied and has an amateur radio society) to get on the list to earn a Worked All Countries award.

b) The most recently that anyone has gotten any info out re amateur radio operation in Syria was in 2005--it's very much an open question whether the amateur radio service in Syria even still exists at all. And no, wartime disruption of amateur radio isn't restricted to totalitarian states--the US government pretty much shut down amateur radio (save for what would become the MARS service) during World War II and still has provisions on the books where amateur radio could be shut down save for RACES during times of war or national emergency.

c) Syria has been under US sanctions for well over 20 years, and has been under international sanctions for quite some time as well--and in general, the bits and bobs required to make a ham radio receiver (unless you're going full-on spark-gap generator) are considered to be "controlled materials" under laws prohibiting sending high-technology devices to Syrians. This would explicitly include any computing equipment capable of use in SDR homebrew or packet radio, a lot of bits in modern and even not-so-modern commercial transceivers, and even stuff like basic ICs that you'd not normally consider to be under munitions laws--it's not like they can order online from Mouser or Digikey or Ham Radio Outlet, because US businesses are prohibited from shipping to Syria or even accepting credit card transactions originating from Syria.

d) There is a very good shot--just based on how much comms are being locked down in Syria anyways--that even importing the basic material to set up a packet network (much less a mere wifi darknet) may be impossible due to Syrian customs seizing the goods and targeting the person ordering for special interrogation. (When countries well and truly crack down, even carrying in a radio capable of receiving (not transmitting!) international shortwave is considered risky--if you're very lucky, they'll just merely seize the radio and not let you in.)

TL;DR version: Folks forget that amateur radio does not work the same everywhere, and wartime ham radio ops are not necessarily seen in a good light by a host country at war.

03 Dec 2012 06:23 PM
Fark Me To Tears    [TotalFark]  

Great Porn Dragon: TL;DR version: Folks forget that amateur radio does not work the same everywhere, and wartime ham radio ops are not necessarily seen in a good light by a host country at war.


Wow. Thanks for that toned-down explanation after stomping the whole idea to death in the full version version just before it.

04 Dec 2012 12:37 AM
myrrh     

Great Porn Dragon:
...until such time that either amateur radio becomes illegal (and all former amateur radio operators become Suspect Persons by the regime) or amateur radio licensing is restricted to friends of the regime, that is.


It's less severe here in the US, of course, but technically the situation is the same: you comply with the FCC's rules and get licensed, or you are breaking the law by operating on amateur bands. You won't be killed by the government over it, but (technically, at least) the penalties for not being "friendly" to the regime are severe. $10,000 fine, confiscation of equipment, possible jail time.

04 Dec 2012 10:08 AM
Great Porn Dragon     

myrrh: Great Porn Dragon:
...until such time that either amateur radio becomes illegal (and all former amateur radio operators become Suspect Persons by the regime) or amateur radio licensing is restricted to friends of the regime, that is.

It's less severe here in the US, of course, but technically the situation is the same: you comply with the FCC's rules and get licensed, or you are breaking the law by operating on amateur bands. You won't be killed by the government over it, but (technically, at least) the penalties for not being "friendly" to the regime are severe. $10,000 fine, confiscation of equipment, possible jail time.


True, that--in the case of the US, "being friendly to the regime" basically consists of following Part 97 and getting properly licensed. Pretty much as long as you follow the general rules, though, anyone can get and keep a license.

What I specifically meant in "friends of the regime"--as in "No, you cannot has amateur radio license without swearing a loyalty oath to Assad, Not Yours"; nothing comparable to that in the US (Obama has, to my knowledge, not passed any kind of executive order to rescind the amateur radio licenses of amateurs who are not registered Democrats :D).

In totalitarian countries, it's not uncommon to be denied amateur radio licenses (if you are a permanent resident or citizen) unless you are a member of the "State Party" in good standing. Pretty much was true in the USSR in the Bad Old Days, is still extremely true in North Korea (of which there are apparently three licensed hams in the entire country, all very close in with the state juche cult), and it's apparently that way in Syria (pretty much no license for you without proving loyalty to the present government).

The last I actually sat at an exam, no loyalty test towards the Republican Party or the US was required by the FCC (and at that point, the GOP effectively controlled all three branches of government). :D Which is good, because (despite the occasional militia-derpers in parts of the 80m band) I wouldn't want anyone denied an amateur radio license just on account of not being a fan of the Flavour Of Conservatism Of The Day (and yes, pretty much all mainline American politics are conservative, even the Green Party would be considered merely "moderate" elsewhere).

My point--the Ham Radio Rules are not necessarily the same worldwide, including qualifications for licensing.

This is why I said amateur radio wasn't an option, of note...outside of licensed amateur radio, though, there is probably some radio activity. It's probably illegal as hell under Syrian law, though. :D

I'd actually be a little surprised if there weren't enterprising members of The Opposition who were setting up clandestine radio stations (which is an entirely different thing than amateur radio, and usually either effectively Pirate Radio or housed in a neighbouring country that is Friendly To The Opposition). The Middle East has in past been a bit of a hotbed for clandestine radio ops, especially Lebanon (which has had dueling clandestines between Falangist and Hezbollah, among others)--and some of the Lebanese ops have targeted other countries (particularly notorious in past were Lebanese clandestines run by American neopentecostals targeting Israel promoting "Messianic Judaism"--Israeli law generally prohibits conversion efforts targeting the Jewish population, and tends to restrict non-Jewish televangelism in general, so the neopentes basically set up the Jesus Camper version of "border blasters" across the Lebanese border).

06 Dec 2012 03:23 PM
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