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   The publicly owned Oregon Zoo is breeding elephants for a travelling entertainment company. But don't call it a circus: because we all know circus elephants aren't P/C

04 Dec 2012 10:14 AM   |   1643 clicks   |   KGW Portland
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darth_badger     
t.qkme.me

04 Dec 2012 10:17 AM
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Fark Rye For Many Whores     
Pachydermically/Conceived?

04 Dec 2012 10:19 AM
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Harry Freakstorm    [TotalFark]  
Rose-Tu's newborn calf is owned by the elephant rental company called Have Trunk Will Travel, the Oregon Zoo confirmed Monday evening.

Fran Drescher's voice: Hello? This is Have Trunk will Travel. How can I direct your call? One moment please. Mister J! Call fer you. It's the piano company. They say the elephant we sent them never arrived. That's like the third one this month. Stupid post office.

04 Dec 2012 10:20 AM
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Bondith     
Yeah, those circus elephants and their racist jokes and their out-moded attitudes. Totally not PC.

/Q: How do you get a 200-pound squid off the face of an elephant?
//A: Help, help, this squid is pulling my face off.
///I don't get it.

04 Dec 2012 10:22 AM
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inner ted     
there is irony in here somewhere

i'll have to stop a local hipster to have them break it down for me

04 Dec 2012 10:22 AM
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Onkel Buck     
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/floor elephant does not approve, but will continue to watch you masturbate

04 Dec 2012 10:24 AM
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StoPPeRmobile     
cache.vevo.com

04 Dec 2012 10:24 AM
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ChipNASA    [TotalFark]  
ELEPHANT FACEPALM!

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farm7.staticflickr.com

04 Dec 2012 10:25 AM
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ranev700     
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Also owned by a travelling entertainment company

04 Dec 2012 10:25 AM
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strangeguitar    [TotalFark]  
That's Babarric.

04 Dec 2012 10:25 AM
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LowbrowDeluxe     
So I take it railing against 'PC'ness is the new 'censorship' for idiots who don't understand the words they use?

04 Dec 2012 10:33 AM
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omgbears     
i45.tinypic.com

04 Dec 2012 10:37 AM
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Rocket To Russia     
Of course circus elephants aren't personal computers! That's potato talk!

04 Dec 2012 10:44 AM
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Broktun     

04 Dec 2012 10:48 AM
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baronvonzipper     
Such a cute little thing. I wonder what they taste like.

/trim the fat?

04 Dec 2012 10:50 AM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  
"The contract is valid. As per the agreement, official designation of ownership takes effect after the calf has lived 30 days. Once that happens, the Oregon Zoo will be in discussion with Have Trunk Will Travel regarding ownership, and it is the zoo's intent to retain Rose-Tu's calf."

Sounds like anticipatory breach of contract. Let the lawsuit begin!

I wonder what consideration Have Trunk Will Travel gave in return.

04 Dec 2012 10:54 AM
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detroitdoesntsuckthatbad     
"The Association of Zoos and Aquariums Species Survival Plan, which manages North America's captive elephant populations, would have to approve returning any calf to Have Trunk."

Oregon Live's take on it

I have a hunch, that despite the sensationalist headline but Submittard, the calf will stay at the zoo.

04 Dec 2012 11:04 AM
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Matthew Keene     
I have a solution.

media.salon.com

04 Dec 2012 11:09 AM
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Dinjiin     
The Seattle Times just had an expose on elephants in captivity, and breeding rights were a major topic. Turns out that when elephants in captivity are dying at twice the rate at which they are replacing themselves, and when import bans are in place, you start worrying about where your next elephant will come from.

04 Dec 2012 11:09 AM
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Matthew Keene     

Dinjiin: you start worrying about where your next elephant will come from.


images.wikia.com

04 Dec 2012 11:13 AM
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juniperwasting     
This is not true.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/in dex.ssf/2012/12/despite_reports_ z oo_says_new_e.html#incart_river

04 Dec 2012 11:20 AM
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SwiftFox     
It's not a circus if the Humane Society has someone watching them record the films, documentaries and commercials.

04 Dec 2012 11:21 AM
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Day_Old_Dutchie     
I had a co-worker who had this sign posted in his cubicle.

s14.postimage.org

04 Dec 2012 11:21 AM
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detroitdoesntsuckthatbad     

Day_Old_Dutchie: I had a co-worker who had this sign posted in his cubicle.

[s14.postimage.org image 625x468]


He should add another bullet:

4. When it's over other people are always trying to take possession of the work and claim it as their own.

04 Dec 2012 11:23 AM
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baronvonzipper     

Matthew Keene: Dinjiin: you start worrying about where your next elephant will come from.

[images.wikia.com image 362x336]


My eyes!

04 Dec 2012 11:32 AM
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Dinjiin     

Matthew Keene: images.wikia.com


I said elephant, not hippos.

04 Dec 2012 11:34 AM
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iheartscotch    [TotalFark]  
The zoo is contractually obligated to sign ownership of the elephant to the rental company.

The rental company won't seperate the calf from mom unless they absolutely have to; because, that would be a very dumb thing to do. The calf will do better with mom and needs to learn how to be an elephant.

/ the zoo probably did it like this so they can get a little money on the side; I imagine their budget got slashed several times.

04 Dec 2012 11:34 AM
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detroitdoesntsuckthatbad     
According to the zoo director who is holding a press conference as I'm typing - it's very standard to have animals owned by other companies but are housed in the zoo. They have many animals owned by other organizations but are permanently housed in the Oregon zoo. Looks like a non-issue, huzzah.

04 Dec 2012 11:39 AM
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SnarfVader     

darth_badger: [t.qkme.me image 264x174]


Funny, since we are talking about Asian elephants.

04 Dec 2012 11:44 AM
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BarkingUnicorn    [TotalFark]  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: According to the zoo director who is holding a press conference as I'm typing - it's very standard to have animals owned by other companies but are housed in the zoo. They have many animals owned by other organizations but are permanently housed in the Oregon zoo. Looks like a non-issue, huzzah.


What is the owner getting out of this arrangement?

04 Dec 2012 12:12 PM
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detroitdoesntsuckthatbad     

BarkingUnicorn: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: According to the zoo director who is holding a press conference as I'm typing - it's very standard to have animals owned by other companies but are housed in the zoo. They have many animals owned by other organizations but are permanently housed in the Oregon zoo. Looks like a non-issue, huzzah.

What is the owner getting out of this arrangement?


I have no idea, and it wasn't talked about in her press conference but I would imagine the owner gets $$$.

04 Dec 2012 12:23 PM
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arghyematey     

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: According to the zoo director who is holding a press conference as I'm typing - it's very standard to have animals owned by other companies but are housed in the zoo. They have many animals owned by other organizations but are permanently housed in the Oregon zoo. Looks like a non-issue, huzzah.


This.

The SSP (Species Survival Plan) can only work if the genes aren't bottle-necking- you don't want inbred elephants. Studbooks are kept and once it is decided that a population needs new genes, a breeder male will be located and brought in. Part of the agreement between the "home facility" (for lack of better term) and the breeder is that the breeder will get some of the offspring. Those offspring might never end up leaving the "home facility" or they might years and years later down the road.

It happens at every zoo. Many times the breeder will be from another zoo... but just as often, the breeder will come from a private owner. You would be amazed at how many private facilities with exotic animals that there are out there.

Better it be this way than procuring animals from the wild though.
SeaWorld is trying to import wild-caught belugas from Russia

04 Dec 2012 02:34 PM
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CowboyUpCowgirlDown     

04 Dec 2012 03:53 PM
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CowboyUpCowgirlDown     
Here's the future orphan in question.

www.kxl.com

And to all the "it's a standard form of contract" types: if they knew they would always keep the calf at the Oregon Zoo, why are the negotiating a change in ownership in advance of the 30 day transfer?

04 Dec 2012 03:59 PM
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CowboyUpCowgirlDown     
msnbcmedia.msn.com

04 Dec 2012 04:31 PM
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