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   Q: How does someone get 'Dick' from 'Richard'? A: You ask him nicely. Seriously, here comes the science

04 Dec 2012 12:58 PM   |   18857 clicks   |   Today I Found Out
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wambu     
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04 Dec 2012 10:32 AM
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Sybarite    [TotalFark]  
I've always found the origins of diminutive names interesting. I remember reading that a few of the odd ones in English come from the fact that the indigenous population in Britain had trouble pronouncing the hard "r" sound in a lot of the names that Normans brought with them. That's how we get Dolly from Dorothy, Maggie from Margaret, Babs from Barbara, etc.

04 Dec 2012 10:44 AM
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antidisestablishmentarianism    [TotalFark]  
I rather enjoy the revival of 'here comes the science'

04 Dec 2012 10:51 AM
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Tahs4Evar     
Is this the internet reflecting Reddit or Reddit reflecting the internet?

Thread from Reddit 

The unanswerable question or are writers running out of ideas and searching aggregators for ideas? You be the judge!

04 Dec 2012 10:54 AM
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Tahs4Evar     

Tahs4Evar: Is this the internet reflecting Reddit or Reddit reflecting the internet?

Thread from Reddit 

The unanswerable question or are writers running out of ideas and searching aggregators for ideas? You be the judge!


Errrm, unless you look at the dates.....

/Slinks quickly out of the thread.

04 Dec 2012 11:01 AM
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cman    [TotalFark]  
I am gonna name my first son Dickhard

/Or Aethelwulf for the lulz

04 Dec 2012 11:06 AM
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I_C_Weener    [TotalFark]  
Jack Kennedy from John Fitzgerald Kennedy?

04 Dec 2012 11:55 AM
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PreMortem    [TotalFark]  
Curt is short for Curtis



/ponderous man, truly ponderous

04 Dec 2012 12:57 PM
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eltejon     
I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.

04 Dec 2012 01:01 PM
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Pair-o-Dice     
So, in short, Dick = hard ruler.

/TMYK

04 Dec 2012 01:03 PM
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bwilson27    [TotalFark]  
Story needs more dick/penis.

04 Dec 2012 01:03 PM
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macadamnut     
www.nndb.com

Same way you get "turd" from third.

04 Dec 2012 01:04 PM
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Grapple     
But where the hell do you get "Peggy" from "Margaret"??? Explain that one, Mr. Science.

04 Dec 2012 01:06 PM
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Canton     

Sybarite: I've always found the origins of diminutive names interesting. I remember reading that a few of the odd ones in English come from the fact that the indigenous population in Britain had trouble pronouncing the hard "r" sound in a lot of the names that Normans brought with them. That's how we get Dolly from Dorothy, Maggie from Margaret, Babs from Barbara, etc.


But how did we get Peg from Margaret?

04 Dec 2012 01:07 PM
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Pick13     
How do you get Bill from William?

04 Dec 2012 01:07 PM
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Spadababababababa Spadina Bus     
Has a better explanation:

d2jos65913uaef.cloudfront.net

04 Dec 2012 01:08 PM
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Pair-o-Dice     
Bonus fact:
Dick also once popularly meant an assertion, announcement, or declaration, such as "I do dick Mr. Beauregard... you are my hero!" Similarly, someone's 'dying dick' meant something completely different in the Middle Ages as it would now, namely their 'dying declaration'.

Ummm, yea right. Good luck trying to squeeze that one into a conversation. 

/Is dying dick like whiskey dick?

04 Dec 2012 01:09 PM
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Canton     

Grapple: But where the hell do you get "Peggy" from "Margaret"??? Explain that one, Mr. Science.


Faster by thirty-odd seconds! Nice.

/What does science have to do with this, anyway?

04 Dec 2012 01:09 PM
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bim1154     
Chuck for Charles

/No, Chuck is not my farking name.

04 Dec 2012 01:10 PM
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Midnight Rambler     
bulk.destructoid.com

"Why do you keep calling me Dick?"

"Sorry, Mr. Burton..."

04 Dec 2012 01:13 PM
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JackieRabbit     
Linguistics is your friend!

04 Dec 2012 01:14 PM
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SuperChuck     

Grapple: But where the hell do you get "Peggy" from "Margaret"??? Explain that one, Mr. Science.


Pick13: How do you get Bill from William?


So neither of you read the article?

04 Dec 2012 01:15 PM
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db2     
Well have you ever met Richard? Dude's a dick.

04 Dec 2012 01:15 PM
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jackiepaper     

Midnight Rambler: [bulk.destructoid.com image 620x350]

"Why do you keep calling me Dick?"

"Sorry, Mr. Burton..."


That's all i could think of during the recent "Liz and Dick" buzz. Watching that movie tonight, wife-permitting. Best Xmas movie ever. followed closely by The Ref

04 Dec 2012 01:17 PM
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Grapple     

SuperChuck: Grapple: But where the hell do you get "Peggy" from "Margaret"??? Explain that one, Mr. Science.

Pick13: How do you get Bill from William?

So neither of you read the article?


yes, rhyming blah blah blah... So Margaret becomes Maggie which DOESN'T RHYME AT ALL WITH PEGGY. *ahem* I get the Bill-William thing.

04 Dec 2012 01:18 PM
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WhoGAS     
So I really AM a Hick.

/shudder

04 Dec 2012 01:18 PM
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Frankenstorm     
Why would anyone in their right mind name their kid Richard in this day and age?

04 Dec 2012 01:19 PM
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12349876     

Grapple: yes, rhyming blah blah blah... So Margaret becomes Maggie which DOESN'T RHYME AT ALL WITH PEGGY. *ahem* I get the Bill-William thing.


Changing the a to an e is not a big change. Maybe someone thought Peggy sounded better than Paggy or someone misspelled it or misheard it because of an accent.

04 Dec 2012 01:20 PM
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Canton     

Grapple: SuperChuck: Grapple: But where the hell do you get "Peggy" from "Margaret"??? Explain that one, Mr. Science.

Pick13: How do you get Bill from William?

So neither of you read the article?

yes, rhyming blah blah blah... So Margaret becomes Maggie which DOESN'T RHYME AT ALL WITH PEGGY. *ahem* I get the Bill-William thing.


I guess Margaret could become Meg (somehow) which rhymes with Peg which gets you to Peggy? That's a lot of steps for a diminutive.

04 Dec 2012 01:20 PM
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Richard Flaccid     
I get tired of all of the Dick/Richard jokes. It's so childish.

04 Dec 2012 01:20 PM
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blatz514    [TotalFark]  

eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.


Time Warner is much of a porn name. Just sayin'....

04 Dec 2012 01:21 PM
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Molavian    [TotalFark]  
dick milch

04 Dec 2012 01:21 PM
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luthia     

Richard Flaccid: I get tired of all of the Dick/Richard jokes. It's so childish.


Well played.

04 Dec 2012 01:22 PM
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ltdanman44     
ladiagonale.ca


Hello buddy boy, Dick Jones here

04 Dec 2012 01:22 PM
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RoyHobbs22     
Always wondered how you get "sha-chef-ski" from Krzyzewski.

04 Dec 2012 01:22 PM
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Holocaust Agnostic     

Richard Flaccid: I get tired of all of the Dick/Richard jokes. It's so childish.


It could be worse.

/know a guy named Bonar.

04 Dec 2012 01:24 PM
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PlatinumDragon     
Without glancing at the article, going to guess that the "ch" used to be pronounced by the lower classes in England as a Germanic k instead of the shh-like sound that would have come over from Normandy and propagated among the new, French-speaking upper class. Richard/Rickard easily decays to "Dick" from "Rick".

Now to find out how wrong I am...

04 Dec 2012 01:24 PM
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show me    [TotalFark]  

eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.


Your name is Dick Comcast?

//They are pretty much dicks

///Actually, I'm guessing Richard Warner. What do I win?

04 Dec 2012 01:25 PM
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show me    [TotalFark]  

show me: eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.

Your name is Dick Comcast?

//They are pretty much dicks

///Actually, I'm guessing Richard Warner. What do I win?


Ah, I see you are Dick Cox in your profile. That's a good one if true.

04 Dec 2012 01:27 PM
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jackiepaper     

show me: eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.

Your name is Dick Comcast?

//They are pretty much dicks

///Actually, I'm guessing Richard Warner. What do I win?


Dick Cox

04 Dec 2012 01:27 PM
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jackiepaper     

show me: show me: eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.

Your name is Dick Comcast?

//They are pretty much dicks

///Actually, I'm guessing Richard Warner. What do I win?

Ah, I see you are Dick Cox in your profile. That's a good one if true.


SONOFAbiatch

04 Dec 2012 01:28 PM
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12349876     

show me: eltejon: I resemble this, and my last name is the same as a cable company. So awesome... Born with my own porn name.

Your name is Dick Comcast?

//They are pretty much dicks

///Actually, I'm guessing Richard Warner. What do I win?


The lulz vote for Dick Cox with the runners up being Dick Adelphia and Dick Qwest, with the winner in the "not sure if cable company" category is Dick Bend (after Bend Broadband)

04 Dec 2012 01:30 PM
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Mad_Season     
I'm dating a Margaret that hates it shortened, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/ "Hey you!" is my weapon of choice.

04 Dec 2012 01:30 PM
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Grapple     
CSB, we had a police officer in my town growing up named Richard Head.

04 Dec 2012 01:31 PM
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show me    [TotalFark]  

Grapple: CSB, we had a police officer in my town growing up named Richard Head.


I went to grade school with Richard Dickerson. His parents should be shot.

04 Dec 2012 01:34 PM
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HairBolus     

Sybarite: I've always found the origins of diminutive names interesting. I remember reading that a few of the odd ones in English come from the fact that the indigenous population in Britain had trouble pronouncing the hard "r" sound in a lot of the names that Normans brought with them. That's how we get Dolly from Dorothy, Maggie from Margaret, Babs from Barbara, etc.


Umm many childhood "nicknames" come from childish pronunciation - either a young child or its siblings messed up on the official pronunciation because it as too hard. Also in a society where many children are named for their parents or grandparents there wind up being a confusing amount of people with the same name - this giving a motive for preserving childhood nicknames.

04 Dec 2012 01:37 PM
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Theaetetus    [TotalFark]  

12349876: Dick Qwest


That was the hentai version of ElfQuest, right?

04 Dec 2012 01:37 PM
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Theaetetus    [TotalFark]  

HairBolus: Sybarite: I've always found the origins of diminutive names interesting. I remember reading that a few of the odd ones in English come from the fact that the indigenous population in Britain had trouble pronouncing the hard "r" sound in a lot of the names that Normans brought with them. That's how we get Dolly from Dorothy, Maggie from Margaret, Babs from Barbara, etc.

Umm many childhood "nicknames" come from childish pronunciation - either a young child or its siblings messed up on the official pronunciation because it as too hard. Also in a society where many children are named for their parents or grandparents there wind up being a confusing amount of people with the same name - this giving a motive for preserving childhood nicknames.


Good justification, Pisspants.

04 Dec 2012 01:38 PM
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Midnight Rambler     

jackiepaper: Midnight Rambler: [bulk.destructoid.com image 620x350]

"Why do you keep calling me Dick?"

"Sorry, Mr. Burton..."

That's all i could think of during the recent "Liz and Dick" buzz. Watching that movie tonight, wife-permitting. Best Xmas movie ever. followed closely by The Ref


I agree. I watch it every year. One of Murray's best performances.

04 Dec 2012 01:43 PM
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someguy945     
Another fun, related topic is British "cockney rhyming" slang. Brits often replace words with a rhyming phrase. Then they obfuscate things even further by dropping the rhyming portion of the phrase.

Example: Many Brits call a phone a dog, as in "I'll have to get on the dog and talk to him".

Dog is an abbreviated form of "dog and bone"
Dog and bone rhymes with phone.

Lots more here: www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk

04 Dec 2012 01:44 PM
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