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   There's "I need a vacation from my vacation" and then there's "I need a farking lawyer to sue the travel agency for this nightmarish trip to Mexico"

06 Dec 2012 05:37 AM   |   12382 clicks   |   Sun News Network
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Apos     
Rowdy Spring Breakers: Can't live with 'em; can't kill 'em.

06 Dec 2012 12:52 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  
So why was the agency at fault for this?

06 Dec 2012 04:58 AM
Lansydyr     

AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?


Clearly because they failed to tell the vacationers that they would be going to mexico in the middle of a relatively new, unknown "holiday" that isn't widely celebrated. Spring Break... pfft... it's not even on the calendars!

06 Dec 2012 05:04 AM
PunGent     

AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?


As a lawyer, I'm kinda curious about the "moral damages" the plaintiffs got.

Any Canadian Farkers want to enlighten us?

06 Dec 2012 05:40 AM
wildcardjack     
Is this part of a Far Cry 3 promotion?

06 Dec 2012 05:42 AM
Omahawg     
i got nothing. i've never used a travel agency. i just go places and get what I get.

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06 Dec 2012 05:43 AM
cherryl taggart     

Lansydyr: AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?

Clearly because they failed to tell the vacationers that they would be going to mexico in the middle of a relatively new, unknown "holiday" that isn't widely celebrated. Spring Break... pfft... it's not even on the calendars!


I wondered where they all went to, once the Redneck Riviera started cracking down, and trying to be only for families during Spring Break. Hell, we only get 3 or 4 stories now about balcony diving or Burger King rampages. Now, I'll start watching more news reports from Mexico.

06 Dec 2012 05:45 AM
The Voice of Doom    [TotalFark]  
AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?


Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

06 Dec 2012 05:52 AM
orbister     

AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?


Presumably for accommodating grown ups in a hotel which they knew was used by drunken students.

06 Dec 2012 05:53 AM
othmar     
just like a long running Elephants turd.

06 Dec 2012 05:54 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.


That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?

06 Dec 2012 05:55 AM
rcvaughan4     
The lead photo and caption is phenomenal.

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US STUDENTS ON THEIR SPRING BREAK ENJOY DRINKS AT A BEACH IN MEXICO

06 Dec 2012 06:01 AM
jtown     

AverageAmericanGuy: The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?


Because the agents should have known better than to send non-partiers to that hotel. Pretty much the only reason left to deal with travel agents these days is to have someone familiar with your desired destination send you to a place that you will enjoy. A travel agent should know which hotels in a particular area cater to the spring break crowd and which ones cater to tourists. If your travel agent can't manage that, you may as well book the whole trip thru Expedia.

06 Dec 2012 06:09 AM
yukichigai     

jtown: AverageAmericanGuy: The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?

Because the agents should have known better than to send non-partiers to that hotel. Pretty much the only reason left to deal with travel agents these days is to have someone familiar with your desired destination send you to a place that you will enjoy. A travel agent should know which hotels in a particular area cater to the spring break crowd and which ones cater to tourists. If your travel agent can't manage that, you may as well book the whole trip thru Expedia.


Thank you. Said it better than I could.

06 Dec 2012 06:13 AM
The Voice of Doom    [TotalFark]  
AverageAmericanGuy
That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?


I guess they're probably responsible that the product they sell meets certain expectations - especially since you can't inspect the product beforehand and have to buy in good faith, trusting them that the "nice, bright and roomy suite in a luxury hotel" isn't a windowless broom cupboard in the cellar of some mold-covered shiathole.

06 Dec 2012 06:15 AM
rico567     
I thought our tort law system had gone batshiat crazy, but I think Canada may have pulled ahead.......

06 Dec 2012 06:35 AM
b3x     
agreeing to goto mexico in the first place was a mistake. having a bad time is justified.

06 Dec 2012 06:42 AM
cheap_thoughts     
Ahh Riveria Maya... Just another name for Cancun. Don't let them fool you!

The El Dorado btw does not cater to the college crowd, btw. Too cost prohibitive.

06 Dec 2012 06:49 AM
mekkab     

jtown: AverageAmericanGuy: The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?

Because the agents should have known better than to send non-partiers to that hotel. Pretty much the only reason left to deal with travel agents these days is to have someone familiar with your desired destination send you to a place that you will enjoy. A travel agent should know which hotels in a particular area cater to the spring break crowd and which ones cater to tourists. If your travel agent can't manage that, you may as well book the whole trip thru Expedia.


word up.

That being said, I know how to avoid spring breakers. No, not TripAdvisor, though that's what any person with half a brain would do. I just go to a more expensive hotel.


/last place I stayed in Mexico was seized by the Mexican gov't.
//I'll miss you, Ocho Tulum!
///oh wait... they've reopened! I guess they finally paid off the right people

06 Dec 2012 06:53 AM
Happy Hours     

The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?

I guess they're probably responsible that the product they sell meets certain expectations - especially since you can't inspect the product beforehand and have to buy in good faith, trusting them that the "nice, bright and roomy suite in a luxury hotel" isn't a windowless broom cupboard in the cellar of some mold-covered shiathole.


That wasn't their complaint though. Apparently it's the travel agent's fault that they didn't book enough non-college partiers into the hotel.

I didn't even know travel agents still existed. This one might not after this.

06 Dec 2012 06:57 AM
Optimus Primate     

Omahawg: i got nothing. i've never used a travel agency. i just go places and get what I get.



Yup. I've done Britain, Hong Kong, and Bali quite nicely without a silly travel agent. Tours included. The interweb has places that help one decide on what hotels and adventures might be best for you. I find you can customise the experience much nicer doing it yourself, not to a travel agents tastes.

I also like to leave a hefty percentage of the trip simply "open". I tend to find the most interesting experiences in that space.

06 Dec 2012 07:19 AM
plc5_250     
What is this 'vacation' thing you are talking about? How does one go about getting one? Are they expensive?

06 Dec 2012 07:29 AM
Obama's Left Nut     

plc5_250: What is this 'vacation' thing you are talking about? How does one go about getting one? Are they expensive?


I have been told it is a longer time away from work than this "weekend" thing I am still trying to track down.

06 Dec 2012 07:41 AM
ExperianScaresCthulhu     
If you choose to vacation in Mexico, you deserve what you get.

/deepest apologiest to Mexican farkers
//Mexico is not safe

06 Dec 2012 07:41 AM
Coffee Snob     

Apos: Rowdy Spring Breakers: Can't live with 'em; can't kill 'em.


That would come as a surprise to Natalee Holloway.

06 Dec 2012 07:56 AM
vegas_greaser     
well duh, it's Mexico, what did you expect?
/i keed
//miss my weekly trips to Tijuana and the duty free store.

06 Dec 2012 08:03 AM
Mad Scientist     
Yes I quite agree I mean what's the point of being treated like sheep. What's the pointof going abroad if you're just another tourist carted around in buses surrounded by sweaty mindless oafs from Kettering and Coventry in their cloth caps and their cardigans and their transistor radios and their Sunday Mirrors, complaining about the tea - "Oh they don't make it properly here, do they, not like at home" - and stopping at Majorcan bodegas selling fish and chips and Watney's Red Barrel and calamares and two veg and sitting in their cotton frocks squirting Timothy White's suncream all over their puffy raw swollen purulent flesh 'cos they "overdid it on the first day." And being herded into endless Hotel Miramars and Bellvueses and Continentales with their modern international luxury roomettes and draught Red Barrel and swimming pools full of fat German businessmen pretending they're acrobats forming pyramids and frightening the children and barging into queues and if you're not at your table spot on seven you miss the bowl of Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup, the first item on the menu of International Cuisine, and every Thursday night the hotel has a bloody cabaret in the bar, featuring a tiny emaciated dago with nine-inch hips and some bloated fat tart with her hair brylcreemed down and a big arse presenting Flamenco for Foreigners. And then some adenoidal typists from Birmingham with flabby white legs and diarrhoea trying to pick up hairy bandy-legged wop waiters called Manuel and once a week there's an excursion to the local Roman Remains to buy cherryade and melted ice cream and bleeding Watney's Red Barrel and one evening you visit the so called typical restaurant with local colour and atmosphere and you sit next to a party from Rhyl who keep singing "Torremolinos, torremolinos" and complaining about the food - "It's so greasy isn't it?" - and you get cornered by some drunken greengrocer from Luton with an Instamatic camera and Dr. Scholl sandals and last Tuesday's Daily Express and he drones on and on about how Mr. Smith should be running this country and how many languages Enoch Powell can speak and then he throws up over the Cuba Libres.

06 Dec 2012 08:06 AM
ronaprhys     
Damn sticks in the mud. Should've joined in - they might've gotten a bit of drunken co-ed tail.

06 Dec 2012 08:10 AM
Harry Freakstorm     
Wow. Quebecers having their vacation ruined. Usually, it's the other way around.

At least in Mexico they don't have to act like they don't speak the language though the English speaking Mexicans are still fair game.

"Eh. How much iz zees?"

It's 10 dollars.

"Eh, my english iz not good. I give you zees?"

That's two bucks. It's ten. See? Sign? $10

"Yesss. Please take zis and I take zat, no?"

No. It's ten dollars. Ten dollars, please.

"Thank you. Here iz yer two dollars. I take now."

No. It's ten dollars.

"Thank you very much. I put your money here and I take now."

Just go.

Quebecer smiles. Adjusts speedo and waddles off.

06 Dec 2012 08:12 AM
mekkab     

ExperianScaresCthulhu: If you choose to vacation in Mexico, you deserve what you get.

/deepest apologiest to Mexican farkers
//Mexico is not safe


I loved how my rental car was $40 a day for some subcompact, and then an additional $40 a day because I chose the "rip me off upfront" vs the "totally kill me on bullshiat" robbing that happens after dropping off.

Mad Scientist: Red Barrel ... Red Barrel ... Red Barrel


yep, just as I remembered it.

06 Dec 2012 08:14 AM
Endive Wombat    [TotalFark]  

jtown: AverageAmericanGuy: The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?

Because the agents should have known better than to send non-partiers to that hotel. Pretty much the only reason left to deal with travel agents these days is to have someone familiar with your desired destination send you to a place that you will enjoy. A travel agent should know which hotels in a particular area cater to the spring break crowd and which ones cater to tourists. If your travel agent can't manage that, you may as well book the whole trip thru Expedia.


I get what you are saying...but how can a travel agency that operates totally independent of the hotel have any knowledge of the other guests future rowdy behavior? Even if this travel agency ALSO booked these 350+ kids...I fail to see how this is in anyway their fault, they cannot predict the behavior of all guests.

Yeah, I would be pissed too, but a quick Google search of the hotel/resort that your travel agent is suggesting costs nothing and a mere 10 minutes of your time. Also, how hard is it to specify "I want a hotel that does not cater to spring breakers"??? 

What really seems to have happened here is that the hotel failed to keep the peace. The article mentions that security was lacking. If anyone is to blame, it is the hotel management staff for failing to get enough security and keep these spring breakers under control, to get their bartenders to slow down on the drinks...

06 Dec 2012 08:15 AM
MooseUpNorth     
Not quite thirty years ago, our trip booked through a local travel agency ran into trouble; the first plane was canceled due to a breakdown, with no replacement plane close enough to matter. Five families who booked through the travel agency were affected. The agency rebooked us all, rented a pair of tour vans, loaded us up, and absolutely booted it for an alternate connection, just ahead of an even smaller puddle jumper...

... which had to return to the terminal. Some old guy started having chest pains. You know, okay, sure, and I sincerely hope he was okay. But we'd had twenty minutes to make our next connection as it was, and that buffer was entirely gone. The airline was nice enough to call ahead, and Delta (yes, Delta) went above and beyond, delaying each connection by the five minutes needed to make sure everybody got where they needed to be.

/ The trip we learned just how long Atlanta's terminals are.
// Thankful for the rolling pedways.
/// Many nadkicks to the asshole in Atlanta who pick-pocketed 9 year old me.
//// CSB.

06 Dec 2012 08:20 AM
MooseUpNorth     

ExperianScaresCthulhu: If you choose to vacation in Mexico, you deserve what you get.


I was a fairly well traveled kid. Mexico was my family's best vacation (and my second best, only behind the '87 Jamboree in Norway.) We were treated far better throughout (and felt so much safer) there than anywhere else. (Florida, from my earlier CSB, was okay, but still in worst place.)

06 Dec 2012 08:26 AM
Civchic     
I avoid stupid tourists (college aged or otherwise) by not going AI. Seriously, people. The internet is a powerful thing. We went to Antigua, Guatemala last year - booked a 2-bedroom 2-bath condo for the week, went on tours (including climbing a volcano with a guide), ate at fantastic local restaurants, shopped at the bodega for fresh fruits and eggs for breakfast, bought a couple botltes of booze for cheaper than we get pop, and all for less than the cost of a "5 star" AI. Anyplace that I have to eat at a buffet is NOT FIVE STARS.

06 Dec 2012 08:27 AM
HyperX     
Free boobies?

06 Dec 2012 08:33 AM
fredbox     
Well, it was a Quebec court, so they probably awarded damages just because they were placed in the same hotel as people from Ontario.

06 Dec 2012 08:39 AM
Pants full of macaroni!!     
I was under the impression that ALL trips to Mexico are nightmarish by definition.

06 Dec 2012 08:41 AM
Dogfacedgod     
Not enough spring break pics with chicks in showing ass in here...I mean none!!! I am farking pissed the fark off man!

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06 Dec 2012 08:42 AM
freewill    [TotalFark]  

fredbox: Well, it was a Quebec court, so they probably awarded damages just because they were placed in the same hotel as people from Ontario.


I was stuck in a Syracuse, NY hotel full of drunk Ontario housewives a year or so ago.

It was... a somewhat trying time.

06 Dec 2012 08:42 AM
GORDON     
Old people, man, they just dont get it. They just gotta DEAL because now this is HAPPENING. It's swick.

06 Dec 2012 08:53 AM
ryant123    [TotalFark]  

PunGent: AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?

As a lawyer, I'm kinda curious about the "moral damages" the plaintiffs got.

Any Canadian Farkers want to enlighten us?


Not sure, but I think it's like the Quebec civil law equivalent of damages for mental distress.

06 Dec 2012 08:57 AM
angrycrank     

PunGent: AverageAmericanGuy: So why was the agency at fault for this?

As a lawyer, I'm kinda curious about the "moral damages" the plaintiffs got.

Any Canadian Farkers want to enlighten us?


It's a concept from the Quebec civil code (Quebec is governed by a civil law system on provincial matters such as those relating to property - obligations (contract, torts), wills, trusts, etc.) It refers to non-monetary damages - roughly equivalent to mental distress, I think.

06 Dec 2012 08:59 AM
EyeballKid     

Apos: Rowdy Spring Breakers: Can't live with 'em; can't kill 'em.


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"Oh, sure. NOW you tell me!"

06 Dec 2012 09:10 AM
PunGent     
Interesting, guys, thanks for the responses.

The stuff coming up on Google was all related to employment law.

06 Dec 2012 09:11 AM
KFBR392     

AverageAmericanGuy: The Voice of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy
So why was the agency at fault for this?

Probably because they're the contract partner of the tourists, i.e. the ones who sold them the whole package including the stay at the hotel.
It's not like you can say "I want my money back" to the hotel if the hotel isn't the one who got your money.

That explains why these people are suing the agency, but why is the agency responsible for their enjoyment of the vacation?



In short, because the travel agent steers you toward places based on what you want.

For example, when the wife I were looking for someplace in Caribbean a few years go we found out that Mexico was super cheap because of the swine flu threat (which turned out to be non-existant..and we got an absolutely awesome deal).

During our meeting with the travel agent, she is like: Do you want off the beaten path or closer to bars and downtown shopping?. Do you want Mega-super resort, large resort, smaller resort? Mega resort has more people and more restaurants...smaller resort has less people. All inclusive or not?

Kids or no kids at the resort?

Then, based on our responses, they point to 5-6 places they think most fit our wants/needs. And they were right. They pointed us to a great resort.

Had we ended up at a wild spring break hotel filled with drunk college kids (based on our responses to what we wanted)...I would have probably been a little pissed off too.

06 Dec 2012 09:12 AM
bbcard1     
The last time my wife and I went to Riveria Maya my peaceful vacation was totally disrupted by topless women running along the beach. My wife caught me looking at them.

Seriously, most of the Mexican all-inclusives are safe most of the year. Stay on property. If you must venture into the tourist trap, do so during daylight hours. My understanding is that the crazy drug dealers and not crazy enough to fark with the more violent people who own and manage the all inclusives. BTW, Costa Rica is generally as affordable and probably a better alternative than Mexico, IMO.

06 Dec 2012 09:25 AM
Flarn     

Mad Scientist: Yes I quite agree I mean what's the point of being treated like sheep. What's the pointof going abroad if you're just another tourist carted around in buses surrounded by sweaty mindless oafs from Kettering and Coventry in their cloth caps and their cardigans and their transistor radios and their Sunday Mirrors, complaining about the tea - "Oh they don't make it properly here, do they, not like at home" - and stopping at Majorcan bodegas selling fish and chips and Watney's Red Barrel and calamares and two veg and sitting in their cotton frocks squirting Timothy White's suncream all over their puffy raw swollen purulent flesh 'cos they "overdid it on the first day." And being herded into endless Hotel Miramars and Bellvueses and Continentales with their modern international luxury roomettes and draught Red Barrel and swimming pools full of fat German businessmen pretending they're acrobats forming pyramids and frightening the children and barging into queues and if you're not at your table spot on seven you miss the bowl of Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup, the first item on the menu of International Cuisine, and every Thursday night the hotel has a bloody cabaret in the bar, featuring a tiny emaciated dago with nine-inch hips and some bloated fat tart with her hair brylcreemed down and a big arse presenting Flamenco for Foreigners. And then some adenoidal typists from Birmingham with flabby white legs and diarrhoea trying to pick up hairy bandy-legged wop waiters called Manuel and once a week there's an excursion to the local Roman Remains to buy cherryade and melted ice cream and bleeding Watney's Red Barrel and one evening you visit the so called typical restaurant with local colour and atmosphere and you sit next to a party from Rhyl who keep singing "Torremolinos, torremolinos" and complaining about the food - "It's so greasy isn't it?" - and you get cornered by some drunken greengrocer from Luton with an Instamatic camera and Dr. Scholl sandals and last Tuesda ...


I think I love you.

06 Dec 2012 09:31 AM
Day_Old_Dutchie     

bbcard1: The last time my wife and I went to Riveria Maya my peaceful vacation was totally disrupted by topless women running along the beach. My wife caught me looking at them.

Seriously, most of the Mexican all-inclusives are safe most of the year. Stay on property. If you must venture into the tourist trap, do so during daylight hours. My understanding is that the crazy drug dealers and not crazy enough to fark with the more violent people who own and manage the all inclusives. BTW, Costa Rica is generally as affordable and probably a better alternative than Mexico, IMO.


You forgot about don't drink the water.

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Had a friend went on a Mexican vacation a couple years ago - stayed on-site at the resort - still got a bad case of Montezuma's Revenge that needed a stay in the local hospital. UGH!.

For me, no way man, no matter how inexpensive it may seem.

06 Dec 2012 09:37 AM
HoFChaos     
Seems like a pretty straight-forward application of Jarvis v Swans Tours Ltd, [1972] EWCA Civ 8, [1973] 1 All ER 1.

Link

06 Dec 2012 09:50 AM
silverjets     
No sympathy for these people. If you choose to travel to a place like Mexico during spring break its your own damn fault for being surrounded by drunk and obnoxious college kids.

06 Dec 2012 09:54 AM
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