Thoroughly searching suspects before putting them in squad cars is no longer emphasized in police training?

short answer, yes they should have thoroughly searched him. Longer answer, It's more difficult to thoroughly search a person who is physically resisting being taken into custody.

but don't they make kids go through medical detectors in the big city schools nowadays?

How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

Texas. Brown person. Cop.

/need I say more?

Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

I guess if the gun was tucked in the back waistband of his pants and his hands were cuffed behind his back he could have gotten it and pulled the trigger, but that would be a hell of an effort and probably explains why he is still alive and not dead after being shot in the back of the head.

ongbok: Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

I guess if the gun was tucked in the back waistband of his pants and his hands were cuffed behind his back he could have gotten it and pulled the trigger, but that would be a hell of an effort and probably explains why he is still alive and not dead after being shot in the back of the head.

Yeah, up and out could easily miss things.

An execution style straight in shot, on the other hand...

Did he drag himself 50 yards into the woods and hide the gun afterwards?

I'd say this falls firmly in the "Christmas Miracle" category.

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 483x143]

We don't have to shut. down. everything, but there's times when I think that particular island would be a good starting point.

As the police demonstrated last time, if you have a gun completely handy, it's entirely possible to laboriously contort yourself into a position that, absent observation, will allow you to shoot yourself in the head while in handcuffs.

1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

i am not saying it is space aliens but i'm saying it is aliens...

AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

buckler: As the police demonstrated last time, if you have a gun completely handy, it's entirely possible to laboriously contort yourself into a position that, absent observation, will allow you to shoot yourself in the head while in handcuffs.

I know what you're getting at but you'll be surprised at what a suicidal person can do when they really want to die. An anecdotal there have been cases where a person shot themselves six times in the head before the gun went dry and they still live. One EMT talked about how they had to haul the same girl from underneath a train twice.

Super competent looking law enforcement officers in action:

dr-shotgun: Super competent looking law enforcement officers in action:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x416]

You're kidding right?

Look at the woman. She has haunches like a racehorse. Her standing 40 must be in the low sixes.

And the guy has a fatty hump that would make a camel jealous. Lady cop can't run down the perp? Well, endurance cop is on the scene.

Pairing these two creates an unbeatable police team.

dr-shotgun: Super competent looking law enforcement officers in action:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x416]

Wow. Cops don't have any basic physical standards, of any type, anymore?

They would have to shoot you. They sure as hell couldn't chase you.

It's not the RCMP this time, at least.

//Also, what dr-shotgun said......how do you get to be that fat as a cop? Don't you have to walk around just a little bit?

Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

Didn't you watch the video of the police re-enactment of the first such suicide? It's a piece of cake!

We need better handcuffs.

Those must be campus clowns, not real cops, right??

ongbok: Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

I guess if the gun was tucked in the back waistband of his pants and his hands were cuffed behind his back he could have gotten it and pulled the trigger, but that would be a hell of an effort and probably explains why he is still alive and not dead after being shot in the back of the head.

Firstly: Cops did it, fark the pigs. Secondly, I have, while handcuffed behind my back, in the back of a cop car, managed to retrieved a dime bag from my front pocket, got it into my mouth and swallowed it. And i'm not even black.

buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

I lol'd

Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

Ain't no muthafarkin' bump, Vincent.

Triumph: How do you shoot yourself in the head with both hands locked behind your back?

/Must have gone over a bump or something.

It's not hard. Move your hands under your legs to get them in front, then pull the gun and stick it behind your ear.

dr-shotgun: Super competent looking law enforcement officers in action:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x416]

if having a fat ass or gut makes you a bad cop, I don't want to be a good cop

Geez Louise, just let the kid off himself. It will make all of his problems go away. Well, at the very least he will not longer be aware of those problems, so either way is good.

Since there's no real reason why the police would have needed to shoot this kid (they had taken him into custody for the sole purpose of making sure he didn't hurt himself), and since he was suicidal, it's entirely possible he found a way to shoot himself in the head.

It's also possible that the kid was not cuffed behind the back, but was cuffed in front. It took a second reading of the atrociously-written article, but apparently, the guy who was referenced being cuffed behind and who shot himself in the head was a DIFFERENT person, and managed to fatally shoot himself, a completely different, and entirely more suspicious circumstance. That was this guy, in the last two paragraphs:

It echoes a story in July, when an Arkansas man, Chavis Carter, 21, fatally shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car after he was picked up during a traffic stop.

Officials say he was handcuffed from behind and had been searched twice for weapons. An autopsy report found he tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs.

That guy DIED, presumably, since he was autopsied; the kid in the main story lived, and therefore probably was not autopsied later. Therefore, it's entirely possible he was cuffed in front, which makes it conceivable he could have retrieved a gun and shot himself. He might have leaned over to hide his actions from the cops, and shot himself in the back of the head instead of the front or side.

Normally, all suspects are cuffed behind, but it might be since this was a minor, and not being treated as a criminal but merely as a troubled kid in need of help, that he was not searched thoroughly and merely restrained in front because he wasn't thought to be a threat to the cops. It's a possible scenario, given the utter lack of detail in that awfully-written story.

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 483x143]

I don't find that to be completely accurate. It should read, "Making gullible Americans feel better about Police State life by misinforming them about the UK. Because a page-hit from a tubby, clueless dumb-ass is just as good as one from a middle-class Conservative OAP in the Home Counties".

Much better.

Legal Speculation: If the kid was suicidal and the police were there to intervene before he killed himself, and he somehow manages to shoot himself INSIDE the cop car while in police custody, who will be charged? Will he face charges for shooting himself? Will the cops face charges for letting an armed and suicidal kid try and pull a Kobain in their car? With neither face charges as this is just a horrific tragedy all around? Or will both parties face charges because gods forbid someone doesn't pay a lawyer?

buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that it all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today.

Hrist: Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today. I had been dreaming and the cat was licking my balls

That cop car has one of the best examples of inappropriate font usage I've seen.

log_jammin: Hrist: Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today. I had been dreaming and the cat was licking my balls

Now now, you can't blame him if it is true. If I had a story like that, I'd shoehorn it into every thread online, too.

starsrift: That cop car has one of the best examples of inappropriate font usage I've seen.

Everyone's a critic.

Hrist: buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that it all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today.

That was a better story than the article.

I did my ex's mum instead ;)

doglover: Now now, you can't blame him if it is true. If I had a story like that, I'd shoehorn it into every thread online, too.

Not me. I'll never tell anyone about the cat licking my balls.

Gyrfalcon: Since there's no real reason why the police would have needed to shoot this kid (they had taken him into custody for the sole purpose of making sure he didn't hurt himself), and since he was suicidal, it's entirely possible he found a way to shoot himself in the head.

It's also possible that the kid was not cuffed behind the back, but was cuffed in front. It took a second reading of the atrociously-written article, but apparently, the guy who was referenced being cuffed behind and who shot himself in the head was a DIFFERENT person, and managed to fatally shoot himself, a completely different, and entirely more suspicious circumstance. That was this guy, in the last two paragraphs:

It echoes a story in July, when an Arkansas man, Chavis Carter, 21, fatally shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car after he was picked up during a traffic stop.

Officials say he was handcuffed from behind and had been searched twice for weapons. An autopsy report found he tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs.

That guy DIED, presumably, since he was autopsied; the kid in the main story lived, and therefore probably was not autopsied later. Therefore, it's entirely possible he was cuffed in front, which makes it conceivable he could have retrieved a gun and shot himself. He might have leaned over to hide his actions from the cops, and shot himself in the back of the head instead of the front or side.

Normally, all suspects are cuffed behind, but it might be since this was a minor, and not being treated as a criminal but merely as a troubled kid in need of help, that he was not searched thoroughly and merely restrained in front because he wasn't thought to be a threat to the cops. It's a possible scenario, given the utter lack of detail in that awfully-written story.

Actually, I think it is two cases where someone was cuffed in the backseat and both times they managed to conceal a gun and both times attempted suicide (with a 1-1 record). That makes for some seriously criminally negligent police work there.

log_jammin: doglover: Now now, you can't blame him if it is true. If I had a story like that, I'd shoehorn it into every thread online, too.

Not me. I'll never tell anyone about the cat licking my balls.

But their tongues are so ROUGH. It's sexy. 



Aw yeah. Those spikes feel extra good when you're asleep in a pile of cheetos dust and spilled buweiser

starsrift: That cop car has one of the best examples of inappropriate font usage I've seen.

OMG thank you, I thought I was the only weirdo interested in fonts. I fixated on the font on the bumper. Are they trying to make the car look cool and approachable?

I mean, really? You might as well have used Comic Sans.

Hrist: buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that it all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today.

You forgot to start your story with "It was a dark and sto....", I mean "Dear Penthouse". Try to do better next time.

/farking amateurs

Hrist: buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: 1. Don't shoot yourself over losing some girl.
2. You're in high school. Go sleep with her best friend.
3. You shot yourself in the back of the head and lived. What are you going to do with your life now, you moron?

Learn how to eat?

Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that it all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today.

I call bullsh*t. Straight men don't talk about post sex hair.

doglover: log_jammin: Hrist: Lawl this. My girlfriend in high school cheated on me so I farked her best friend in retaliation. I got caught because she showed up unexpectedly at friend's house and I forgot to tame my post-sex hair. Then girlfriend was all butthurt and demanded to be let in on the action. Her best friend and I just looked at each other and we all stepped into the house for some more action. That's when I realized that all was going to work out alright, and we're all three still friends today. I had been dreaming and the cat was licking my balls

Now now, you can't blame him if it is true. If I had a story like that, I'd shoehorn it into every thread online, too.

Hell no, you wouldn't. No one would believe you, and even if they did and started asking questions the little details you glossed over - like girl #1 mass distorting spacetime or girl #2 being just a liiiiiittle crazy (ie: don't let her hold sharp objects) start to come up

seems like darwinism
after looking at the picture of the copasauruses..
I think I would say the same thing had he put a round into either of them
some people's lives are meant to serve as a warning to others.

I'm pretty sure, however
that the officers didn't crawl into the back seat
and un-fatally shoot the kid in the back of the head

starsrift: That cop car has one of the best examples of inappropriate font usage I've seen.

Looks like the font they use on collegehumor, I thought it was a wacky photoshop at first glance.

Nope, just hilariously lardy cops and a really odd, distracting font.

Since when did England get such fat-ass cops? Oh, it's the US. Now I understand. I was worried for a second.

log_jammin: but don't they make kids go through medical detectors in the big city schools nowadays?

Medical detectors?

Gyrfalcon: It echoes a story in July, when an Arkansas man, Chavis Carter, 21, fatally shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car after he was picked up during a traffic stop.

Officials say he was handcuffed from behind and had been searched twice for weapons. An autopsy report found he tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs.

Chavez Carter was high as a kite, and they had numerous witnesses as well as a snuff-quality dash cam video of him offing himself in real time.

/seriously a disturbing watch if you, uh, have connections to get the uncensored version.

Gyrfalcon: It echoes a story in July, when an Arkansas man, Chavis Carter, 21, fatally shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car after he was picked up during a traffic stop.

Officials say he was handcuffed from behind and had been searched twice for weapons. An autopsy report found he tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs.

That guy DIED, presumably, since he was autopsied; the kid in the main story lived, and therefore probably was not autopsied later. Therefore, it's entirely possible he was cuffed in front, which makes it conceivable he could have retrieved a gun and shot himself. He might have leaned over to hide his actions from the cops, and shot himself in the back of the head instead of the front or side.

Normally, all suspects are cuffed behind, but it might be since this was a minor, and not being treated as a criminal but merely as a troubled kid in need of help, that he was not searched thoroughly and merely restrained in front because he wasn't thought to be a threat to the cops. It's a possible scenario, given the utter lack of detail in that awfully-written story.

And yet no word on which gun the bullet came from....

women cops are so damn hot