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06 Dec 2012 12:00 PM   |   3776 clicks   |   Forbes
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Generation_D    [TotalFark]  
In my experience its been you had to be both -- networked in AND top quality candidate. So you try to only drink with top quality candidates. It sure sucks having to review resumes before happy hour.

06 Dec 2012 09:07 AM
serial_crusher    [TotalFark]  
My usual question for interviewees is what kind of beer they drink. The one guy I didn't interview, answered the question on his first day with "miller high life, from a glass, with ice". He didn't really work out for plenty of other reasons, eventually got fired for incompetence, so now that question is kind of crucial.

06 Dec 2012 10:34 AM
CapeFearCadaver    [TotalFark]  
In my company we go for both. You must be high-quality and produce high-quality results in your work especially considering we do print materials. Though we also aren't going to hire a stick in the mud. We all have a more sarcastic and sardonic sense of humor as well, so if you get offended too easily you won't be hired.

/drinking is a plus

06 Dec 2012 11:00 AM
InmanRoshi     
So you're saying that free market enterprise doesn't exist in a vacuum of meritocracy?

06 Dec 2012 12:04 PM
Shirley Ujest     
We keep a case of beer in the frig at work.

06 Dec 2012 12:04 PM
Smackledorfer     

InmanRoshi: So you're saying that free market enterprise doesn't exist in a vacuum of meritocracy?


Somehow this is the government's fault.

06 Dec 2012 12:05 PM
Clemkadidlefark     
Bull(cough)

06 Dec 2012 12:07 PM
cwolf20     
They're also not likely to let the world know they're hiring in that situation. So the lack of applicants will prevent applicants from finding a potential reason to complain

06 Dec 2012 12:07 PM
BolshyGreatYarblocks     
One irony here is that most of the citizens of the fastest-growing economies in the world, and probably most of the patent filers, are people with low alcohol tolerance.

/dlink after school? Yes, after Harvard you have beer!

06 Dec 2012 12:07 PM
wedun     

serial_crusher: "miller high life, from a glass, with ice".

 

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06 Dec 2012 12:08 PM
BigNumber12     
I just got back from a "working" trip to Vegas with my boss and coworkers, so I'm getting a kick out of this.

06 Dec 2012 12:08 PM
cryinoutloud     
And that's why all the farking psychopathic assholes who kiss up to the bosses are always your boss, instead of the people who actually do any work.

06 Dec 2012 12:08 PM
Headso     
Pretty much all the jobs I have had came from connections either I made or my family already made even my paper route as a kid. With that knowledge I knew even as a young kid that most of your opportunity comes from who ya know and a bit of luck but your success comes from not burning those bridges.

06 Dec 2012 12:09 PM
Tat'dGreaser     
No one is going to hire you if you come off as an asshole. Personality does actually go a long way.

Of course this article doesn't talk about finding a job in today's world, where you do need to have some requirements just to get that interview.

06 Dec 2012 12:10 PM
Nightjars     
As a skilled worker, and a skilled drinker, I support this practice.

06 Dec 2012 12:11 PM
SlagginOff     
I don't trust people who don't drink (unless it's because they have a problem - in which case they at least have interesting stories from the past), so no, I wouldn't hire someone that I wouldn't want to drink with.

06 Dec 2012 12:12 PM
Random Anonymous Blackmail     
This is why I would never open up a brewery.

06 Dec 2012 12:12 PM
dumbobruni     

serial_crusher: My usual question for interviewees is what kind of beer they drink. The one guy I didn't interview, answered the question on his first day with "miller high life, from a glass, with ice". He didn't really work out for plenty of other reasons, eventually got fired for incompetence, so now that question is kind of crucial.


good on you to disqualify muslims, mormons, AA members and celiacs.

06 Dec 2012 12:13 PM
phaseolus     
For a while now I've thought this was the explanation for that one Moderator.

06 Dec 2012 12:14 PM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost     
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I want to be her drinking buddy

06 Dec 2012 12:15 PM
Odd Bird     
The hiring practices (and many other things) will soon lead me to drinking at my desk.
Gawd but I could use a drink right now...

06 Dec 2012 12:16 PM
The My Little Pony Killer     

dumbobruni: good on you to disqualify muslims, mormons, AA members and celiacs.


They can't have beer, but whisky is okay.

06 Dec 2012 12:17 PM
Odd Bird     

Odd Bird: The hiring practices (and many other things) here will soon lead me to drinking at my desk.
Gawd but I could use a drink right now...


/glad I came back to the thread, +1 for AVG

06 Dec 2012 12:17 PM
UseUrHeadFred     
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. When you know someone's weaknesses up front, it makes it easier to overcome or work around them. Plus, if they're your buddy, quid pro quo.

06 Dec 2012 12:18 PM
CygnusDarius     

SlagginOff: I don't trust people who don't drink (unless it's because they have a problem - in which case they at least have interesting stories from the past), so no, I wouldn't hire someone that I wouldn't want to drink with.


I don't think "my liver looks like swiss cheese" is a cool story :C .

Once I worked with a person that didn't drink, didn't smoke, dressed neatly, rarely spoke, and moved like a frikkin' robot. That guy creeped me out because he didn't made a single noise when he moved.

But, when we talked, I found out he was just a quirky guy.

06 Dec 2012 12:18 PM
Taylor Mental     
I prefer "circle jerk" but the modmins keep ignoring me.

06 Dec 2012 12:19 PM
slackananda     
Considering that we tend to spend more time with co-workers than family or friends, this makes perfect sense. Selecting an unqualified candidate over a qualified one is bad business, but picking the person you like from a range of qualified candidates seems like common sense.

OTOH "corporate culture" is an oxymoron.

06 Dec 2012 12:21 PM
Pair-o-Dice     
we started talking about how we both love stalking celebrities in New York. . . we had this instant connection. . . I loved her.

Freaks!

06 Dec 2012 12:23 PM
serial_crusher    [TotalFark]  

dumbobruni: serial_crusher: My usual question for interviewees is what kind of beer they drink. The one guy I didn't interview, answered the question on his first day with "miller high life, from a glass, with ice". He didn't really work out for plenty of other reasons, eventually got fired for incompetence, so now that question is kind of crucial.

good on you to disqualify muslims, mormons, AA members and celiacs.


we also have a strict anti-butthurt policy, so you'd be way out!

/ Nah, "I don't drink" is a perfectly valid answer.
// We'd have to buy special desks for the celiacs. 
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06 Dec 2012 12:23 PM
blatz514    [TotalFark]  
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06 Dec 2012 12:25 PM
djh0101010     

slackananda: Considering that we tend to spend more time with co-workers than family or friends, this makes perfect sense. Selecting an unqualified candidate over a qualified one is bad business, but picking the person you like from a range of qualified candidates seems like common sense.


Exactly. The interview is 50% "can you do the job", 50% "How will you fit in with our carefully balanced team dynamics", and 50% "How well do you handle constant context switches, because, that's what this job is". (IT operations for a big big company - fixing broken stuff for angry people). I'm gonna be hanging out with you 40 hours a week or more, and if you poison the attitude and perception of the department, then that's a problem. Let's figure that out right now, before it becomes a problem.

06 Dec 2012 12:33 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier    [TotalFark]  
"Hell no I don't have a drinking problem. I have a lack of money to pay the bar tab problem."

06 Dec 2012 12:34 PM
redmid17    [TotalFark]  

djh0101010: slackananda: Considering that we tend to spend more time with co-workers than family or friends, this makes perfect sense. Selecting an unqualified candidate over a qualified one is bad business, but picking the person you like from a range of qualified candidates seems like common sense.


Exactly. The interview is 50% "can you do the job", 50% "How will you fit in with our carefully balanced team dynamics", and 50% "How well do you handle constant context switches, because, that's what this job is". (IT operations for a big big company - fixing broken stuff for angry people). I'm gonna be hanging out with you 40 hours a week or more, and if you poison the attitude and perception of the department, then that's a problem. Let's figure that out right now, before it becomes a problem.


Don't forget the 90% mental part.

06 Dec 2012 12:35 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     

dumbobruni: serial_crusher: My usual question for interviewees is what kind of beer they drink.

good on you to disqualify celiacs.


The My Little Pony Killer: They can't have beer, but whisky is okay.


Hey, stupids.
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06 Dec 2012 12:40 PM
SquiggsIN     
I know I've missed out on possible promotions at past employers b/c I don't drink. At one place the guy in charge of infrastructure and IT was worthless and played games half of the day but the boss loved him b/c they went out like frat boys 4 nights a week.

06 Dec 2012 12:43 PM
serial_crusher    [TotalFark]  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: dumbobruni: serial_crusher: My usual question for interviewees is what kind of beer they drink.

good on you to disqualify celiacs.

The My Little Pony Killer: They can't have beer, but whisky is okay.

Hey, stupids.
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To an extent I agree with them. Not sure I'd consider that stuff "real beer".

06 Dec 2012 12:44 PM
Tricky Chicken     
I always thought of it as the 'Airport Test'

Could I tolerate an extended flight delay with only this person to talk to?

You were most likely capable of doing the job before we called you in. I'm just judging to see if you are tollerable.

06 Dec 2012 12:44 PM
tbhouston     
You have to fit into the company culture, you have to be able to work with people

Most jobs can be taught, you just got to be likeable and malleable


There is a reason most unemployeed people sound and look alike. Yes i'm talking to you fattie

06 Dec 2012 12:49 PM
StrandedInAZ     
In my industry, you're more likely to be ostracized if you don't golf. Nobody really cares whether or not you drink.

06 Dec 2012 12:50 PM
Wizzin     
Yet another reason to be self employed.

06 Dec 2012 12:53 PM
My Bologna Has A Maiden Name     
So I should show up drunk to the interview?

06 Dec 2012 12:54 PM
BgJonson79     

InmanRoshi: So you're saying that free market enterprise doesn't exist in a vacuum of meritocracy?


Only if you don't consider "plays well with others" a merit.

06 Dec 2012 12:54 PM
PrivateCaboose    [TotalFark]  

StrandedInAZ: In my industry, you're more likely to be ostracized if you don't golf. Nobody really cares whether or not you drink.


Given that I've occasionally convinced my boss to get margaritas at lunch, I approve of this practice. Especially since she's way nicer after a drink or two!

06 Dec 2012 12:55 PM
dskot1     
I work as a business consultant and the guy who hired me for my current job literally told me in my interview "I like to hang out with my team, we go out for happy hour a lot so it is important that you join. What are your favorite drinks?" The guy hates his home life so he wants his to be his distraction.

06 Dec 2012 12:55 PM
PrivateCaboose    [TotalFark]  

Wizzin: Yet another reason to be self employed.


Because then you can call it "drinking with coworkers" instead of "drinking alone"?

06 Dec 2012 12:56 PM
argylez     
It's a rarity that people go out for drinks here (ivy league university).

/doesn't drink

06 Dec 2012 12:58 PM
SlagginOff     

CygnusDarius: SlagginOff: I don't trust people who don't drink (unless it's because they have a problem - in which case they at least have interesting stories from the past), so no, I wouldn't hire someone that I wouldn't want to drink with.

I don't think "my liver looks like swiss cheese" is a cool story :C .

Once I worked with a person that didn't drink, didn't smoke, dressed neatly, rarely spoke, and moved like a frikkin' robot. That guy creeped me out because he didn't made a single noise when he moved.

But, when we talked, I found out he was just a quirky guy.


I said interesting, not cool :) .

I'm half joking anyway, I'm only weary of the teetotalers on moral high ground that don't drink and judge everyone that does. If you just don't like drinking that's fine with me. Most likely though my social life won't have many parallels to yours.

06 Dec 2012 01:02 PM
distopianDream     

Headso: Pretty much all the jobs I have had came from connections either I made or my family already made even my paper route as a kid. With that knowledge I knew even as a young kid that most of your opportunity comes from who ya know and a bit of luck but your success comes from not burning those bridges.


I'm the same. Have a useless degree in Psychology but work for an engineer who happens to be a family friend. My previous job was acquired by meeting the owner at a bar, he was drunk (as was I) but told me to come in on Monday about a job. He hired me on the spot when I showed up the following Monday morning.

06 Dec 2012 01:07 PM
PanicMan     
You're all my drinking buddies cause I drink when I Fark. That way I can say I'm not drinking alone. You're never drinking alone when you're on the internet.

06 Dec 2012 01:16 PM
Warlordtrooper     
But I was told that the free market hired the most qualified and it was hard work that got you ahead. Republicans surely wouldn't lie to me

06 Dec 2012 01:18 PM
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