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   They know when you are sleeping. They know when you're awake. They know if you've been bad or good. Big Data is watching you

09 Dec 2012 08:42 AM   |   7716 clicks   |   Wall Street Journal
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abhorrent1     
I've never shopped for a car online so I guess I don't care.

09 Dec 2012 08:45 AM
Fluorescent Testicle     
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09 Dec 2012 08:47 AM
NutWrench    [TotalFark]  
Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.

09 Dec 2012 08:50 AM
tzzhc4     
Funny, I was joking just last week that Santa must be the master of "Big Data".

09 Dec 2012 08:51 AM
jayhawk88    [TotalFark]  

abhorrent1: I've never shopped for a car online so I guess I don't care.


Because car shopping is the one and only area where a company would do this sort of thing.

09 Dec 2012 08:51 AM
Macular Degenerate     
Known as "CSS history sniffing", this technique exploits a security vulnerability in older Web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole. Dataium CEO Eric Brown told the Journal it has used the technique intermittently for testing.

So, then this whole article is about nothing then. Good jorb, WSJ. FWIW I did a run down on Cars.com on an old version of Safari and current version of Firefox and I didn't find any of Dataium's alleged malfeasance.

TL,DR: Update your browser regularly, manage cookies and Javascript a bit more, and consider using tools like Ghostery.

09 Dec 2012 08:55 AM
Spaced Lion     
FTA: This technique exploits a security vulnerability in older web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole.

I don't think most of us have anything to worry about.

/LOL, privacy hole

09 Dec 2012 08:57 AM
Spaced Lion     
Damn you, Macular Degenerate!

*Fist shake*

09 Dec 2012 08:58 AM
ghare     
If Big Data is using the stuff in my history, it thinks I'm George Bush and live at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and my phone number is 555-555-1212

09 Dec 2012 08:59 AM
MrEricSir     

NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.


I was about to agree with you, until I opened my spam folder and the first message is from "Drew Curtis" with the subject line "eric." I'm not even joking:

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Holy shiat. THEY ARE ON TO ME. 

(Note to Drew: please stop spamming me with weight loss scams, thanks.)

09 Dec 2012 09:00 AM
Fluorescent Testicle     

NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.


I want to know why a full half of the spam I get is for Viagra and/or dick enlargement snake oil when I don't have a dick.

09 Dec 2012 09:04 AM
radiobiz     
In theory, there is an upside to data mining and targeted response for the consumer. It's supposed to save you time by not showing you stuff you aren't interested in so ads don't show up for ball gags when I'm clearly searching for cranberry flavored vodka soaked tampons.

In theory.

09 Dec 2012 09:15 AM
skinink     
If you have Ghostery installed then you know how many javascripts Fark.com loads before you even get the page content to load first, in addition to the Flash ads. Fark is one of the worst loading sites I've seen and if the mobile version had a few more user things added to it, I would stick strictly to mobile.

09 Dec 2012 09:18 AM
Seasons I'v Withered     
After reading the article.... the headache I has it,,
Gaaaaaaaa

09 Dec 2012 09:27 AM
Mugato    [TotalFark]  
"Meh, I've seen it. He's more like 'Average Data'".

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09 Dec 2012 09:37 AM
prjindigo     
Only my sammich maker knows what sammiches I eat tho.
Cash and no Tubbway card. I've been avoiding "store cards" for more than a decade.
Right now a dead guy in atlanta is racking up grocery bonuses.

09 Dec 2012 09:37 AM
Seasons I'v Withered     

Fluorescent Testicle: NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.

I want to know why a full half of the spam I get is for Viagra and/or dick enlargement snake oil when I don't have a dick.


But you do have a shiny testicle .... Right?

09 Dec 2012 09:38 AM
ronaprhys     

radiobiz: In theory, there is an upside to data mining and targeted response for the consumer. It's supposed to save you time by not showing you stuff you aren't interested in so ads don't show up for ball gags when I'm clearly searching for cranberry flavored vodka soaked tampons.

In theory.


Which means that I'm going to be more inclined to spend money on shiat I don't need. No thank you - I work towards seeing as few ads as possible. NoScript plus AdBlock on my Firefox. It's not perfect, but it does a pretty good job on the overall.

So, on the overall, this is a Very Bad Thing.

09 Dec 2012 09:42 AM
NutWrench    [TotalFark]  
NoScript + AdBlock Plus + Ghostery for me.

09 Dec 2012 09:50 AM
abhorrent1     

Spaced Lion: FTA: This technique exploits a security vulnerability in older web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole.

I don't think most of us have anything to worry about.

/LOL, privacy hole


Wouldn't that be considered a crime?

09 Dec 2012 09:54 AM
fluffy2097     
https://www.ghostery.com/

09 Dec 2012 09:55 AM
fluffy2097     

abhorrent1: Spaced Lion: FTA: This technique exploits a security vulnerability in older web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole.

I don't think most of us have anything to worry about.

/LOL, privacy hole

Wouldn't that be considered a crime?


Awww. You think users have rights! Isn't that cute.

/It's only illegal when a user exploits a website.
//Users aren't people and you chose to be on the site so they can run all the malicious code they like.

09 Dec 2012 09:56 AM
here to help     
Why not link to the actual freaking article... 

Link

It's on the same site for cripes sake. 

...

Throwing away unfetchable URL http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014 24127887324784404578143144132736 214.html: Sorry, but the Wall Street Journal puts up an intermittent paywall after we link it. Please find a different source. (note: blogs.wsj.com is OK): 403 Not allowed

Oh... that's why. Whatevs... you can click through from subby's link.

/here to help
//or trying to anyway
///shaddup

09 Dec 2012 09:59 AM
abhorrent1     

fluffy2097: /It's only illegal when a user exploits a website.


So botnets are totally legal? Assuming they don't use them to exploit a website? They are composed of compromised users, after all .

09 Dec 2012 10:00 AM
Massa Damnata     
I bought a cpu online, i started getting spam on line, same thing when i bought a motherboard and gpu. When i bought a camera, same deal. It doesnt exactly bother me,mostly because I assume its going to happen.

09 Dec 2012 10:04 AM
here to help     
From the actual article...

Consider Dataium LLC, the company that can track car shoppers like Mr. Morar. Dataium said that shoppers' Web browsing is still anonymous, even though it can be tied to their names

derp

09 Dec 2012 10:06 AM
stratagos     

Fluorescent Testicle:


Came for Brent Spiner, leaving satisfied

09 Dec 2012 10:31 AM
Jon iz teh kewl     
and big data makes sure you don't use cannabis at home because it can affect your performance at work

09 Dec 2012 10:34 AM
stratagos     

Fluorescent Testicle: NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.

I want to know why a full half of the spam I get is for Viagra and/or dick enlargement snake oil when I don't have a dick.


Firms sending mail of that sort aren't exactly known for strategic targeting their message

09 Dec 2012 10:36 AM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     
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They know if you have FIFTY DOLLAR BILLS!

09 Dec 2012 10:37 AM
BitwiseShift     
My new motor. Why it's a Rolls. Why I researched it online. Why do you ask? 

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09 Dec 2012 10:42 AM
Stone Meadow     

NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.


They do me...

By which I mean I bought a new laptop (Win8/IE10...unmolested so far), and am astonished at the suddenly targeted ads (I used XP/FF15 w/adblock before). Two I have noticed are that I recently searched for 'recumbent trike' and 'emigrate to Chile'. I looked at recumbents because my BiL is a serious cyclist (he doesn't own a car and rides everywhere) mentioned he was interested in them, and looked at how to move to Chile after reading the Fark thread about the sheriff candidate in NH who left the country after losing. Now it seems like every web page I click on has an ad for terratrikes.com or some 'retire overseas' website (or 3).

So in the remote case that you are unaware of how closely you are tracked on the web, you are. Time for me to look at ghostifying myself.

/why yes, I DO want the web to be free...AND ad-free

09 Dec 2012 10:45 AM
Gleeman     
Expected this to be about Google...

09 Dec 2012 10:48 AM
fluffy2097     

abhorrent1: So botnets are totally legal? Assuming they don't use them to exploit a website? They are composed of compromised users, after all .


You can write a botnet, and you can distribute it from your website. You can even administrate the compromised machines with a C&C sever.

Electric Sheep is technically a botnet, but it makes screensavers, instead of attacking websites.

The moment those compromised users attack a website or other server, you have a problem.

/Always the users attacking a sever that makes it bad.

09 Dec 2012 10:58 AM
SurelyShirley     
"...Dataium does not collect Social Security numbers and credit card numbers, even if users enter them on a dealer-contact form."

Do they really ask for that information if you just want to know if Corinthian leather or Tru-Coat are options?

09 Dec 2012 11:27 AM
Wolfspider     
Says the wsj.com page that has 15 tracking cookies.

09 Dec 2012 11:35 AM
FirstNationalBastard    [TotalFark]  

stratagos: Fluorescent Testicle:

Came for Brent Spiner, leaving satisfied


Oddly Enough, that's what the woman who played June Wheeler on Night Court said.

09 Dec 2012 11:36 AM
Steve Zodiac     
I have long held that a persons financial, medical, and personal information belongs to him, and that companies should not be allowed to sell that data without the express consent of that person. Also, companies would have to correct any errors or mis statements that they pass on to others immediately or face prosecution. Most of those protections exist when you are talking about business to business data but not for personal data.

Not that a bill explicitly stating those positions would have any chance whatsoever of passing.

09 Dec 2012 11:40 AM
stuffy     
Really? Well watch this! FAP FAP FAP FAP....

09 Dec 2012 11:51 AM
CujoQuarrel     

Macular Degenerate: Known as "CSS history sniffing", this technique exploits a security vulnerability in older Web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole. Dataium CEO Eric Brown told the Journal it has used the technique intermittently for testing.

So, then this whole article is about nothing then. Good jorb, WSJ. FWIW I did a run down on Cars.com on an old version of Safari and current version of Firefox and I didn't find any of Dataium's alleged malfeasance.

TL,DR: Update your browser regularly, manage cookies and Javascript a bit more, and consider using tools like Ghostery.


Keep Javascript turned off till needed, accept cookies only if really needed and auto delete when you log off,

Gotta go look up Ghostery.

And NEVER EVER use your real name/age/sex/country etc when you sign into a site.

Speeaking as a 82 year old woman from Uganda I know these things.

// Side note to Macular Degenerate. Is your name because you have the condition?

09 Dec 2012 11:59 AM
Stone Meadow     

fluffy2097: https://www.ghostery.com/


Thank you, kind sir! Installed and running...

09 Dec 2012 12:21 PM
kim jong-un     

NutWrench: Well, based on the spam I've been getting, companies don't have any idea who I am.


Given my user names, I invite the tracking.

09 Dec 2012 12:24 PM
kim jong-un     

CujoQuarrel: Macular Degenerate: Known as "CSS history sniffing", this technique exploits a security vulnerability in older Web browsers, such as Internet Explorer 8. Modern browsers have plugged this privacy hole. Dataium CEO Eric Brown told the Journal it has used the technique intermittently for testing.

So, then this whole article is about nothing then. Good jorb, WSJ. FWIW I did a run down on Cars.com on an old version of Safari and current version of Firefox and I didn't find any of Dataium's alleged malfeasance.

TL,DR: Update your browser regularly, manage cookies and Javascript a bit more, and consider using tools like Ghostery.

Keep Javascript turned off till needed, accept cookies only if really needed and auto delete when you log off,

Gotta go look up Ghostery.

And NEVER EVER use your real name/age/sex/country etc when you sign into a site.

Speeaking as a 82 year old woman from Uganda I know these things.

// Side note to Macular Degenerate. Is your name because you have the condition?


The fingerprint of your browser is more unique if you block and disable than if you don't. I simply aggregate a series of users into a single profile. Its easier and simple folder use allows everyone to maintain their own favorites, data, etc.

Family only of course, but the resultant ad targeting is so screwed up it might as well be schizophrenic. My Netflix viewing habit recommendations are fubar though.

09 Dec 2012 12:28 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     

Mugato: "Meh, I've seen it. He's more like 'Average Data'".

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No.

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You could've been nicer.

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More like this.

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I can't hear you.

09 Dec 2012 12:38 PM
Catlenfell     
" The issue's not whether you're paranoid, the issue is whether you're paranoid enough"

09 Dec 2012 01:11 PM
SomethingToDo     
So... Don't Be Evil?

09 Dec 2012 03:23 PM
Tax Boy     

Rufus Lee King: I've always felt that it was "Big Daddy" watching me from beyond.

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