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   Off-duty cop in "fear for his life" fires weapon at suspected Walmart shoplifters speeding away, killing one but luckily missing the two small children in the car. Tag is for not knowing Walmart's new policy regarding shoplifters

09 Dec 2012 10:15 AM   |   18518 clicks   |   CBS Houston
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ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  
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"You didn't pay for that. Your ass is mine!"

09 Dec 2012 02:17 AM
sleeper2995     
"They are coming straight at me!" *shruggs*

09 Dec 2012 02:20 AM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  
I'm pretty sure Walmart's shoplifter procedures apply to their employees only, not an off duty cop who happened to be there .

09 Dec 2012 02:39 AM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

Bathia_Mapes: I'm pretty sure Walmart's shoplifter procedures apply to their employees only, not an off duty cop who happened to be there .


He didn't just happen to be there. From the Daily Mail arty:

'We hire off duty officers to provide security to some of our stores. While we have policies in place for our associates to disengage from situations that might put them or others in harm's way, off-duty officers working at a WM store are authorized to act in accordance with their department's code of conduct.'

But yeah, he doesn't have to obey WM policy, apparently.

09 Dec 2012 03:02 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

Bathia_Mapes: I'm pretty sure Walmart's shoplifter procedures apply to their employees only, not an off duty cop who happened to be there .


He didn't just "happen to be there", he was paid by Wal-Mart to stand around in uniform as a deterrent, and do any police-type stuff if the need arose, or at least call for the on-duty guys. Ever seen cops at a concert or sporting event? They're "off-duty", being paid by the venue or promoter to be there.

Here's another article that goes into more depth about why the officer was there:

Harris County deputy Louis Campbell, who was working an approved extra job that evening as Walmart security, was alerted immediately when the suspects made their way to checkout.

09 Dec 2012 03:04 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

fusillade762: But yeah, he doesn't have to obey WM policy, apparently.


Well, cops are their own law anyway.

But what about the security guard that put the shoplifter in Atlanta in a headlock two weeks ago, and somehow the shoplifter wound up dead by the time the cops showed up? He worked for a private security company, not directly for Wal-Mart, but wasn't he still expected to follow Wal-Mart policies regarding shoplifters, and, you know, not kill them?

Extra jobs that cops take on are invariably on a "contract" basis, rather than as an actual employee of the business or event; however, were the cop to take a second job as a contracted truck driver, wouldn't he be expected to follow the company policy as well? (e.g., things like no offensive bumper stickers when hauling trailers with the company logo, no passengers when hauling company-owned freight, mandatory stops every four hours even when not legally required, etc.) How about as a contracted accountant during tax season? What if he were to receive a contract from the city to provide lawn maintenance, could the city require that he wear an orange vest while mowing, even though he is not legally required to do so?

The point is that cop or no, Wal-Mart can dictate policy he is required to follow. Also, since he was being paid by Wal-Mart to be there, Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

09 Dec 2012 03:15 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

Bathia_Mapes: I'm pretty sure Walmart's shoplifter procedures apply to their employees only, not an off duty cop who happened to be there .


Oh, and the joke was supposed to be the shoplifters were not aware that Wal-Mart now kills suspected shoplifters.

09 Dec 2012 03:16 AM
DON.MAC     

ox45tallboy: Bathia_Mapes: I'm pretty sure Walmart's shoplifter procedures apply to their employees only, not an off duty cop who happened to be there .

Oh, and the joke was supposed to be the shoplifters were not aware that Wal-Mart now kills suspected shoplifters.


You can get killed for stealing a toaster before it gets put on the first container.

09 Dec 2012 03:38 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

DON.MAC: You can get killed for stealing a toaster before it gets put on the first container.


But by the second container you're cool, right?

09 Dec 2012 03:46 AM
DON.MAC     

ox45tallboy: DON.MAC: You can get killed for stealing a toaster before it gets put on the first container.

But by the second container you're cool, right?


Far less likely to have your family pay for the bullet at least.

09 Dec 2012 03:56 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

DON.MAC: Far less likely to have your family pay for the bullet at least.


At least they're on sale in the sporting goods department.

09 Dec 2012 04:08 AM
Richard Saunders     

DON.MAC: ox45tallboy: DON.MAC: You can get killed for stealing a toaster before it gets put on the first container.

But by the second container you're cool, right?

Far less likely to have your family pay for the bullet at least.


If your toaster is in a vehicle speeding away from you in a Walmart parking lot, let it go, man... it's gone. 

/if shoplifters were armed, this wouldn't happen

09 Dec 2012 05:31 AM
DON.MAC     

ox45tallboy: DON.MAC: Far less likely to have your family pay for the bullet at least.

At least they're on sale in the sporting goods department.


I took an Aussie girlfriend to Texas Wal-mart at about 3 am (recent arrival, jet lag, needed stuff, it was open). She wondered over to the hunting section and was flirting with the kid behind the counter and was asking if she could buy a gun and which one should she get. It was insane.

09 Dec 2012 05:50 AM
CreamFilling     

ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.


The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.

09 Dec 2012 05:53 AM
DON.MAC     

CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.


That depends on which story you read.

09 Dec 2012 05:54 AM
AbbeySomeone     

DON.MAC: CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.

That depends on which story you read.


Perhaps if he hadn't attempted to force his way into the vehicle this may not have happened.

09 Dec 2012 05:57 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

DON.MAC: She wondered over to the hunting section and was flirting with the kid behind the counter and was asking if she could buy a gun and which one should she get. It was insane.


No, insane is when you get home and she wants to bring it to bed with you.

Trust me, stay away from these kinds of women,

09 Dec 2012 06:07 AM
ox45tallboy    [TotalFark]  

AbbeySomeone: Perhaps if he hadn't attempted to force his way into the vehicle this may not have happened.


Most cops I know are already pretty damned tired when they get to these off-duty gigs, having already put in an eight-hour shift hunting down miscreants. Most of the time, they don't want to work, and will happily just call in some on-duty guys to handle an arrest.

I don't want to go too far into conjecture, but if a woman smacks a cop with her purse, regardless of if she had a good reason, the cop is probably not going to be happy about it, and might decide to chase after her. He's probably not going to let her drive (or get into a car and ride) away without teaching her that smacking a cop with your purse is unacceptable behavior in civilized society. Some cops, depending on the circumstances, might feel that a brief verbal exposition might be sufficient; others might feel that there should be some kind of physical reinforcement to the lesson. Virtually none, however, will let it slide, as this is seen as an affront not merely to the individual cop, but to the badge.

I don't know of any police procedure which allows for effecting arrest under these circumstances for simple petty theft when the cop is on foot with no backup and the suspects are attempting to flee by car. The cop is placing himself in danger in these circumstances, and cops are trained to look out for their own safety before the safety of others. He has a radio. Call in the license plate and have the on-duty guys bring the suspects back for your lecture/tazing/beatdown. Shooting at a fleeing car might look great in an action movie, but it makes you look like a total dick unconcerned with public safety when it happens in real life.

09 Dec 2012 06:20 AM
truchaos     
"killing one but luckily missing the two small children in the car."


More proof that cops should carry fully automatic weapons.

09 Dec 2012 07:11 AM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

ox45tallboy: I don't want to go too far into conjecture, but if a woman smacks a cop with her purse, regardless of if she had a good reason, the cop is probably not going to be happy about it, and might decide to chase after her. He's probably not going to let her drive (or get into a car and ride) away without teaching her that smacking a cop with your purse is unacceptable behavior in civilized society. Some cops, depending on the circumstances, might feel that a brief verbal exposition might be sufficient; others might feel that there should be some kind of physical reinforcement to the lesson. Virtually none, however, will let it slide, as this is seen as an affront not merely to the individual cop, but to the badge.


Off-duty cops hired by WalMart wear "the badge"?

09 Dec 2012 07:20 AM
DON.MAC     

ox45tallboy:

Trust me, stay away from these kinds of women,


Some lessons must be learned the hard way... so I'm ignoring your advice.

09 Dec 2012 08:23 AM
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl     

CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.


Until he let go of the handle.

09 Dec 2012 08:25 AM
PreMortem    [TotalFark]  
It is after all, Texas...

Pretty sure you can shoot someone for cutting in line there, especially if they are mentally handicapped.

09 Dec 2012 08:41 AM
DanZero    [TotalFark]  

ox45tallboy: Harris County deputy Louis Campbell, who was working an approved extra job that evening as Walmart security, was alerted immediately when the suspects made their way to checkout.


Fantastic. Another greenlight with a poor headline.

Save money, live die better. walmart

09 Dec 2012 09:15 AM
Gwendolyn    [TotalFark]  

PreMortem: It is after all, Texas...

Pretty sure you can shoot someone for cutting in line there, especially if they are mentally handicapped.


Not "can" it's expected.

09 Dec 2012 09:17 AM
thamike     
I think you may have left something out, subby.

09 Dec 2012 09:27 AM
Via Infinito    [TotalFark]  

thamike: I think you may have left something out, subby.


Yeah, maybe the part about the cop getting dragged as the car sped away.

09 Dec 2012 10:11 AM
Cretony38     
Another one of the many reasons not to shop at Walmart

09 Dec 2012 10:18 AM
special20    [TotalFark]  
I like to play bumper cop. Why all the shootin? U mad. officer?

09 Dec 2012 10:20 AM
willfullyobscure     
100 percent justified as the black lady was literally trying to kill him. hero cop.

09 Dec 2012 10:22 AM
BronyMedic     

truchaos: More proof that cops should carry fully automatic weapons.


All bad cops need to carry an AK-47, like portrayed below.

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Those kids are worth at LEAST one star.

09 Dec 2012 10:23 AM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     
You have to wear a smiley face pin and hope they accept you as one of their own.

09 Dec 2012 10:23 AM
Tyranicle     
Hey man, nice shot.

09 Dec 2012 10:23 AM
BronyMedic     

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: You have to wear a smiley face pin and hope they accept you as one of their own.


HEY.

HEY HEY HEY.

You can't post in a thread without laying on us an episode of TMLO theatre.

09 Dec 2012 10:24 AM
Cuchulane    [TotalFark]  
Am I missing the mention in the article of the two small children?

09 Dec 2012 10:24 AM
M11618     

AbbeySomeone: DON.MAC: CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.

That depends on which story you read.

Perhaps if he hadn't attempted to force his way into the vehicle this may not have happened.


Why shouldn't he? Shopkeepers privilege allows for the reasonable pursuit and detaining of a suspected thief. You blame the cop, why didn't she stop? If a cop opens your door, you comply, you feel you have been unjustly detained, you call a lawyer.

09 Dec 2012 10:27 AM
Tyranicle     

Cuchulane: Am I missing the mention in the article of the two small children?


The headline was long. No need to read article.

09 Dec 2012 10:28 AM
Big_Fat_Liar     

willfullyobscure: 100 percent justified as the black lady was literally trying to kill him. hero cop.


Where in the article does it say the lady was black? Oh, never mind, I just remembered that the article said she was stealing....

09 Dec 2012 10:28 AM
rocketpants    [TotalFark]  
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09 Dec 2012 10:30 AM
BronyMedic     

Big_Fat_Liar: willfullyobscure: 100 percent justified as the black lady was literally trying to kill him. hero cop.

Where in the article does it say the lady was black? Oh, never mind, I just remembered that the article said she was stealing....


That can't be racist. I know you're white, Sir. And Racism is a crime. And we all know white people can't commit crimes!

/end sarcasm.

09 Dec 2012 10:30 AM
Pribar     

BronyMedic: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: You have to wear a smiley face pin and hope they accept you as one of their own.

HEY.

HEY HEY HEY.

You can't post in a thread without laying on us an episode of TMLO theatre.


That was the short attention span edition of TMLO theatre I think

09 Dec 2012 10:31 AM
BravadoGT    [TotalFark]  
Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

09 Dec 2012 10:31 AM
vudukungfu    [TotalFark]  
good

09 Dec 2012 10:31 AM
blatz514    [TotalFark]  

truchaos: "killing one but luckily missing the two small children in the car."


More proof that cops should carry fully automatic weapons.


I lol'd

09 Dec 2012 10:33 AM
snocone    [TotalFark]  
Makes you wonder how your next IRS audit will go, eh?
Remember the Fed just armed an entire army of bureaucrats.

Gun Control you can believe in.

09 Dec 2012 10:33 AM
titwrench     
Misleading headline of the year.

09 Dec 2012 10:33 AM
Godscrack     

Via Infinito: thamike: I think you may have left something out, subby.

Yeah, maybe the part about the cop getting dragged as the car sped away.


The cop should have thought of the consequences before holding on, trying to be another Christmas hero.

09 Dec 2012 10:34 AM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     

BronyMedic: HEY.

HEY HEY HEY.

You can't post in a thread without laying on us an episode of TMLO theatre.


Heh, I dig, I follow! I've got nothing prepared for now, but... I'll keep thinking of ideas, anyways!


Pribar: That was the short attention span edition of TMLO theatre I think


TMLO Theater: Text-Based Edition!

09 Dec 2012 10:34 AM
BravadoGT    [TotalFark]  
One more thing--she was already on probation for shoplifting...from Walmart! As part of her probation, she wasn't even allowed to be in a Walmart...

Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...

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09 Dec 2012 10:34 AM
StoPPeRmobile     

CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.


Normal people don't put lives on the line over some slave-made Walmart crap.

09 Dec 2012 10:35 AM
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