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   In Ireland, being thrown under the bus isn't a euphemism

10 Dec 2012 04:23 AM   |   5850 clicks   |   Irish Independent
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Apos     
Damn....L & O: UK episodes are grittier than expected.

10 Dec 2012 01:03 AM
L.D. Ablo    [TotalFark]  
I'm lucky I didn't end up under a bus when I was staggering around Dublin a few years ago. Crossing streets with people driving on the "wrong" side of the road is disconcerting after a few pints.

10 Dec 2012 01:16 AM
Pribar     

L.D. Ablo: I'm lucky I didn't end up under a bus when I was staggering around Dublin a few years ago. Crossing streets with people driving on the "wrong" side of the road is disconcerting after a few pints.


Never been to Ireland but I almost autodarwinated myself in London by looking left before crossing a busy street

10 Dec 2012 04:56 AM
Ablejack     
"Being thrown under the bus" is not a euphemism anywhere.

10 Dec 2012 05:06 AM
subsetzero     
Eoghan = OWEN

10 Dec 2012 05:27 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob     

Pribar: L.D. Ablo: I'm lucky I didn't end up under a bus when I was staggering around Dublin a few years ago. Crossing streets with people driving on the "wrong" side of the road is disconcerting after a few pints.

Never been to Ireland but I almost autodarwinated myself in London by looking left before crossing a busy street


Dublin's actually painted 'Look Right -->' and 'Look Left

10 Dec 2012 05:39 AM
urban.derelict     
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10 Dec 2012 05:44 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob     
I was there immediately after the incident as the police were tapping it off.

Sad story all around, but I really didn't understand why it took them so long to move the dead guy and re-open the road.

10 Dec 2012 05:50 AM
mike_d85     
FTFA:he was allegedly pushed toward the bus, wasn't homeless and didn't drink, his family said.

But if he was a drunk or homeless, pushing him under a moving bus would have totally been cool.

10 Dec 2012 05:51 AM
mike_d85     

Fark_Guy_Rob: I was there immediately after the incident as the police were tapping it off.

Sad story all around, but I really didn't understand why it took them so long to move the dead guy and re-open the road.


The article said "died of horrific head injuries" so he probably didn't die immediately. You were waiting for paramedics to come up with a way to safely move a mostly dead man.

10 Dec 2012 05:52 AM
Wizard Drongo     

mike_d85: Fark_Guy_Rob: I was there immediately after the incident as the police were tapping it off.

Sad story all around, but I really didn't understand why it took them so long to move the dead guy and re-open the road.

The article said "died of horrific head injuries" so he probably didn't die immediately. You were waiting for paramedics to come up with a way to safely move a mostly dead man.


Actually it says he died almost immediately. I imagine you were waiting for the coroner (or whatever they're called in Ireland, but it's coroner here in Scotland), to have pictures taken etc. and the scene mapped, and then a doctor to confirm death.

/ Finding the doctor takes the time. When someone's head splattered all over the ground like a melon, you don't need a mirror and some smelling salts to confirm they're dead...

10 Dec 2012 06:15 AM
MrBrownNow     
I wonder if died of horrific head injuries!

10 Dec 2012 06:31 AM
monty666    [TotalFark]  
So "Real Life Horrific Head Injury Harry" would probably be a bad recurring character on soap operas.

10 Dec 2012 07:00 AM
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros     
I've been dating a zookeeper, and virtually everything she says about work sounds like a euphemism. Last week I asked her what she was doing and the answer was "washing the warthog."

10 Dec 2012 07:02 AM
BalugaJoe     
that guy took a picture. he tried to get the driver to stop by flashing him.

10 Dec 2012 07:06 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob     

mike_d85: Fark_Guy_Rob: I was there immediately after the incident as the police were tapping it off.

Sad story all around, but I really didn't understand why it took them so long to move the dead guy and re-open the road.

The article said "died of horrific head injuries" so he probably didn't die immediately. You were waiting for paramedics to come up with a way to safely move a mostly dead man.


Even the next morning; long after the body was moved, they still had three or four police and one Dublin Bus guy standing at the intersection to ensure nobody violated the sanctity of the police tape. The intersection is on a few of the main bus routes (like the 46a, 140, and 145) that were still being re-routed on my way into work some....14-15 hours after the accident. It was sometime between noon and 5pm the day after the accident that they had regular access to the street.

In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. And being delayed a few hours is infinitely better than being involved in an accident with a bus. I was just really amazed at how long it all took. Maybe it's normal and/or maybe they're actually doing really important stuff at the scene that I just don't understand?

10 Dec 2012 07:06 AM
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10 Dec 2012 07:26 AM
meathome     

mike_d85: FTFA:he was allegedly pushed toward the bus, wasn't homeless and didn't drink, his family said.

But if he was a drunk or homeless, pushing him under a moving bus would have totally been cool.


No, but it's a hell of a lot more common for one of those two to be true when this happens (saw a lot of drunks attempt to darwin themselves in Dublin the night they beat Romania in the '90 World Cup).

10 Dec 2012 07:31 AM
macadamnut     
Nor is "sliding down the banshee's tail."

10 Dec 2012 08:18 AM
drxym     
Dublin has some very busy bus routes and it's not surprising as it gets

Fark_Guy_Rob: In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. And being delayed a few hours is infinitely better than being involved in an accident with a bus. I was just really amazed at how long it all took. Maybe it's normal and/or maybe they're actually doing really important stuff at the scene that I just don't understand?


Well it was a suspected murder. Probably have to preserve the scene and photograph it from every angle during daylight hours.

10 Dec 2012 08:45 AM
RealityChuck     
It's not a euphemism anywhere.

It's a metaphor.

10 Dec 2012 08:50 AM
Mangoose     

RealityChuck: It's not a euphemism anywhere.

It's a metaphor.


A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object.

Your metaphor sucks like a a 42 year old truck stop hooker.

That's a metaphor.

Her clothes fell like petals of a wilting flower is also a metaphor. See? Likening one matter to another

You could say that throwing someone under a bus is an idiom. Which is to say a saying whose meaning cannot be grasped by literal meaning.

10 Dec 2012 09:06 AM
The Jami Turman Fan Club     

Mangoose: RealityChuck: It's not a euphemism anywhere.

It's a metaphor.

A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object.

Your metaphor sucks like a a 42 year old truck stop hooker.

That's a metaphor.

Her clothes fell like petals of a wilting flower is also a metaphor. See? Likening one matter to another

You could say that throwing someone under a bus is an idiom. Which is to say a saying whose meaning cannot be grasped by literal meaning.


No, those are similes. "Arms like a gorilla" is a simile. "Gorilla arms" is a metaphor, unless you're talking about a gorilla.

/About the only thing I remember out of High School English.

10 Dec 2012 09:34 AM
Quantumbunny     

Mangoose: RealityChuck: It's not a euphemism anywhere.

It's a metaphor.

A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object.

Your metaphor sucks like a a 42 year old truck stop hooker.

That's a metaphor.

Her clothes fell like petals of a wilting flower is also a metaphor. See? Likening one matter to another

You could say that throwing someone under a bus is an idiom. Which is to say a saying whose meaning cannot be grasped by literal meaning.


Actually those "metaphors" of yours are similes. Likening something to another (like or as) is a simile. Instead, it actually being called the other thing rather than a comparison, is a metaphor.

Idiom does seem to be the right term, Euphemism definitely isn't.

10 Dec 2012 09:38 AM
robertus     
I was walking around Dublin, and a city bus ran over a pigeon. Sounded like someone biting into a really juicy apple.

/CSB

10 Dec 2012 09:53 AM
brimed03     

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: I've been dating a zookeeper, and virtually everything she says about work sounds like a euphemism. Last week I asked her what she was doing and the answer was "washing the warthog."


Ok, that's hilarious. I'd ask her about her day constantly just for the giggles. She'd probably beat me to death...

/*snert* that's not a euphemism.

10 Dec 2012 09:56 AM
Richelieu     

Ablejack: "Being thrown under the bus" is not a euphemism anywhere.


Came to say this, arrived way too late.

/Missed the bus
//Metaphorically

10 Dec 2012 09:58 AM
StevieKo     
Someone sure is conscious of drugs and alcohol in the article...

10 Dec 2012 10:11 AM
Mangoose     

The Jami Turman Fan Club: About the only thing I remember out of High School English.


I think I may have been making this mistake since around that time.

10 Dec 2012 10:37 AM
Jon iz teh kewl     

StevieKo: Someone sure is consciouscous cous of drugs and alcohol in the article...



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10 Dec 2012 10:40 AM
ZodiacMan     
I was in Dublin a couple of years ago and the crossing lights made a sound that reminded me of the droids from Star Wars. In fact, this whole thread reminds me of the glorious week I spend wandering around the Republic of Ireland in various states of drunkenness. I am going to go drink a six pack of Smithwick's now.

10 Dec 2012 01:16 PM
de_Selby     

Quantumbunny: Mangoose: RealityChuck: It's not a euphemism anywhere.

It's a metaphor.

A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object.

Your metaphor sucks like a a 42 year old truck stop hooker.

That's a metaphor.

Her clothes fell like petals of a wilting flower is also a metaphor. See? Likening one matter to another

You could say that throwing someone under a bus is an idiom. Which is to say a saying whose meaning cannot be grasped by literal meaning.

Actually those "metaphors" of yours are similes. Likening something to another (like or as) is a simile. Instead, it actually being called the other thing rather than a comparison, is a metaphor.

Idiom does seem to be the right term, Euphemism definitely isn't.


Came here to complain about the lack of euphemism. Then about the failed metaphor. But I see Captain Grammar is not needed here (I know - Captain Style fits better, but how many hats can one head wear?).

10 Dec 2012 05:22 PM
cptjeff     

Fark_Guy_Rob: mike_d85: Fark_Guy_Rob: I was there immediately after the incident as the police were tapping it off.

Sad story all around, but I really didn't understand why it took them so long to move the dead guy and re-open the road.

The article said "died of horrific head injuries" so he probably didn't die immediately. You were waiting for paramedics to come up with a way to safely move a mostly dead man.

Even the next morning; long after the body was moved, they still had three or four police and one Dublin Bus guy standing at the intersection to ensure nobody violated the sanctity of the police tape. The intersection is on a few of the main bus routes (like the 46a, 140, and 145) that were still being re-routed on my way into work some....14-15 hours after the accident. It was sometime between noon and 5pm the day after the accident that they had regular access to the street.

In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. And being delayed a few hours is infinitely better than being involved in an accident with a bus. I was just really amazed at how long it all took. Maybe it's normal and/or maybe they're actually doing really important stuff at the scene that I just don't understand?


It's a farking murder case, not just an accident. It looks pretty probable that this guy was thrown under the bus entirely literally- including the thrown part. They're going to close that sucker down until they're damn sure they've documented everything and gathered up ever last bit of evidence. Since you apparently didn't RTFA, the guy was in an argument with two other men (now in custody) possibly about money, and they allegedly pushed him in front of the bus. Busy street or not, they're going to close it down for as long as they feel they need access to the scene.

10 Dec 2012 06:53 PM
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