I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

Sid_6.7: I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

I miss my cube... I had a drawer full of snacks, a wall of snark and a whiteboard. It wasn't that private but it was mine.

Damn open concept offices. The cleaning lady is mowing the carpet down the row and someone has a cough.

Tr0mBoNe: Sid_6.7: I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

I miss my cube... I had a drawer full of snacks, a wall of snark and a whiteboard. It wasn't that private but it was mine.

Damn open concept offices. The cleaning lady is mowing the carpet down the row and someone has a cough.

I'm the opposite. My last job had cubes, but they only rose about a foot above the desk. I liked that.

My current job has very tall hexagons. Luckily, I can knock out a couple of the walls, so I'm not in a dark space all the time, but I miss constant interaction.

Hour-by-hour look at hyper-disciplinarian charter school where kids maintain near-total silence for seven years

FishyFred: I'm the opposite. My last job had cubes, but they only rose about a foot above the desk. I liked that.

My current job has very tall hexagons. Luckily, I can knock out a couple of the walls, so I'm not in a dark space all the time, but I miss constant interaction.

I think the best layout is a square with a cube in each corner, backs to each other. If its good enough for communal showers it's good enough for the office.

so lemme see if I got this straight - we spend years beating kids into submission, teaching them to mindlessly obey authority and to never question anything...then suddenly we expect them to act like fully realized self actualized adults who can keep society free and make decisions for themselves all on their own?

"Okay class, open your textbooks up to the chapter about completing TPS reports"

Weaver95: so lemme see if I got this straight - we spend years beating kids into submission, teaching them to mindlessly obey authority and to never question anything...then suddenly we expect them to act like fully realized self actualized adults who can keep society free and make decisions for themselves all on their own?

Yes. Now STFU and GBTW.

Sid_6.7: I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

Yeah, CUBICLES SUCK....says nobody these days.
STFU, GBTW BE THANKFUL YOU *HAVE* A GOT-DAMN JOB.

Thanks to my trusty cubicle, no one can tell that all I do is surf Fark all day.

...Well, except maybe the IT guy.

Here's to hoping he doesn't give a damn.

Damnit, thought this was gonna be about my HS.

/We had actual cubicles for kids to do their work in before moving buildings
//Damn, those cubicles were lifesavers, and I wasn't the only one who thought so.

Hello Peter, whats happening? Ummm, I'm gonna need you to go ahead come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9 that would be great, mmmk... oh oh! and I almost forgot ahh, I'm also gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too, 'kay. We ahh lost some people this week and ah, we sorta need to play catch up.

Their source is a site called EduShyser. I'm not going to say I don't believe them, but really?

Sid_6.7: I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

Yeah, those are going away, fast. There isnt a single office reno that i have seen that isn't removing cubes and replacing them with "benching concepts" and not a single employee likes them. They do two things for the bosses: One, they can micro-manage and observe more, and two, they can fit more people into a room per sq. ft. than with cubes. Of course, the bosses keep their private offices.

doczoidberg: Thanks to my trusty cubicle, no one can tell that all I do is surf Fark all day.

...Well, except maybe the IT guy.

Here's to hoping he doesn't give a damn.

He's probably having too much fun Fark stalking you and trolling you all day to care.

doczoidberg: Thanks to my trusty cubicle, no one can tell that all I do is surf Fark all day.

...Well, except maybe the IT guy.

Here's to hoping he doesn't give a damn.

He doesn't. As long as you post "this is not a bookmark"

This is what all hives will look like soon

Weaver95: so lemme see if I got this straight - we spend years beating kids into submission, teaching them to mindlessly obey authority and to never question anything...then suddenly we expect them to act like fully realized self actualized adults who can keep society free and make decisions for themselves all on their own?

Of course not. Such an expectation would be preposterous!

The difficult burden of having to make decisions is handled for them by the Alphas.

Weaver95: so lemme see if I got this straight - we spend years beating kids into submission, teaching them to mindlessly obey authority and to never question anything...then suddenly we expect them to act like fully realized self actualized adults who can keep society free and make decisions for themselves all on their own?

We can always go to the old British Imperial method where you're shipped off at an early age and you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat. That system seemed to compliment their global domination ambitions nicely.

Approves.

Came for Milford Academy, leaving satisfied.

have my own office.
Have had one for 5 years now.
I like my office.

doczoidberg: Thanks to my trusty cubicle, no one can tell that all I do is surf Fark all day.

...Well, except maybe the IT guy.

Here's to hoping he doesn't give a damn.

I work in an IT office, and trust me, he doesn't. As long as you're not accessing pr0nz or anything that could get malware on your network, he's not going to care. Just make sure your boss doesn't catch you, I guess.

ChipNASA: Sid_6.7: I'm much happier working in a cubicle instead of a huge open room where everyone can see me. Privacy is nice.

Yeah, CUBICLES SUCK....says nobody these days.
STFU, GBTW BE THANKFUL YOU *HAVE* A GOT-DAMN JOB.
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Two years ago, I was assigned to a cube for the first time in my long professional career. I'd always had an office before It took quite a bit of adjustment. But It's not that bad. Years ago, I went to pick up a friend for lunch one day. He worked at a huge Air Force finance center. I stopped at the visitors desk and got a visitor's bag and his "address". He was on the third floor, section F, bay nine, row 15, desk six. The place was unbelievable. Each floor was warehouse size and row-after-row of desks. It was depression as hell.

I make a lot of friends in my cubicle space since I type with these suckers..

IIRC, children's brain development is enhanced by talking and listening. So, no, Do Not Want. Like it or not, children have to communicate verbally.

Whoever proposed this is either certifiably insane or is an industrial strength troll.

JackieRabbit: He was on the third floor, section F, bay nine, row 15, desk six.

Great seats!

8 years ago I had a corner office. Thanks to an acquisition, I now sit in an open floor plan. I used to be ok with it but now I'm kind of tired of it.

I smell bullshiat.

Article. Bullshiat it be.

HMS_Blinkin: ce, and trust me, he doesn't. As long as you're not accessing pr0nz or anything that could get malware on your network, he's not going to care. Just make sure your boss doesn't catch you, I gue


Interesting.

Can the IT guy see my Gmail messages?
You know -- not just that I went to Gmail, but what's IN each message?

Can I check how many other people read the original article and realised that this school doesn't actually exist? Though it would be fun to see them try. I reckon four minutes and twenty seconds before anarchy.

I like to walk briskly through the cubes while letting one rip.

All my staff start fighting with one on another afterwards about who did it.

There's a school of last resort near here that is actually just cubes with computers. All instruction is online. There are monitors patrolling the cubes to enforce silence.

All day, staring at a screen with no personal interaction outside of lunch. At least in a job you can get up and walk over to a neighbor every once in a while. As a teenager, this would have been a form of torture for me.

LemSkroob: This is what all hives will look like soon

They keep talking about doing that where I work, and my response is along the lines of (without profanity):

"You expect people to write code on laptop keyboards with a tiny monitor and no numeric keypad when we could easily be using desktops? Notice how we all use two monitors now, yet you think a single screen smaller than either of the current ones would work? Are you completely f*cking insane?!"

There's a minority of people who are issued laptops, and have desktops at the office. So people who pay no attention to what 90% of our people do argue that we could save money (they cannot produce evidence supporting this notion) by switching everyone to laptops and getting rid of desktops.

If I wanted to really lower productivity and vastly increase future work-related disability claims (eye sight, RSI, etc.), then I'd definitely go with laptops.

I find it more frightening that some kids really do need this sort of thing nowadays.

And yes, I realize this school doesn't exist.

/The inmates were not allowed to talk on Alctraz either

Sid_6.7: LemSkroob: This is what all hives will look like soon

They keep talking about doing that where I work, and my response is along the lines of (without profanity):

"You expect people to write code on laptop keyboards with a tiny monitor and no numeric keypad when we could easily be using desktops? Notice how we all use two monitors now, yet you think a single screen smaller than either of the current ones would work? Are you completely f*cking insane?!"

There's a minority of people who are issued laptops, and have desktops at the office. So people who pay no attention to what 90% of our people do argue that we could save money (they cannot produce evidence supporting this notion) by switching everyone to laptops and getting rid of desktops.

If I wanted to really lower productivity and vastly increase future work-related disability claims (eye sight, RSI, etc.), then I'd definitely go with laptops.

I could almost see a claim that dockable laptops might not be a bad idea, with full-size keyboards and monitors (or even dual-monitor setups) in the cubes. But at that point, desktops become cheaper.

H31N0US: JackieRabbit: He was on the third floor, section F, bay nine, row 15, desk six.

Great seats!

8 years ago I had a corner office. Thanks to an acquisition, I now sit in an open floor plan. I used to be ok with it but now I'm kind of tired of it.

It makes it a little more challenging to rub one out

orbister: Can I check how many other people read the original article and realised that this school doesn't actually exist? Though it would be fun to see them try. I reckon four minutes and twenty seconds before anarchy.

I realized it doesn't exactly exist when I saw the photo was from 1947.

doczoidberg: HMS_Blinkin: ce, and trust me, he doesn't. As long as you're not accessing pr0nz or anything that could get malware on your network, he's not going to care. Just make sure your boss doesn't catch you, I gue


Interesting.

Can the IT guy see my Gmail messages?
You know -- not just that I went to Gmail, but what's IN each message?

As long as there are no followup questions, then yes. Yes he can.

I'm posting this from my office, so I'm getting a kick...

H31N0US: JackieRabbit: He was on the third floor, section F, bay nine, row 15, desk six.

Great seats!

8 years ago I had a corner office. Thanks to an acquisition, I now sit in an open floor plan. I used to be ok with it but now I'm kind of tired of it.

I couldn't stand an open floor plan. I lost my office because I was asked to take another, non-management position for a year or so. I wanted a break from management, so I took it. I moved to a new office, but while I was working my new job, we got a new Sr. VP of HR, who decided that no one under director could have an office. Biatch. So when I moved to a business liaison role, I lost my office. I'm about to change companies soon, so maybe I'll get an office. Or better yet work remotely!

This is a college transitional blowup just waiting to happen. What happens when these kids get out into the real world, where no one really gives a shiat about how many seconds it took you to execute taking your books out of your bag and putting them on your desk? I get a disciplined environment, but this sounds to be like it's essentially military school without the shoulder rank.

Weaver95:
so lemme see if I got this straight - we spend years beating kids into submission, teaching them to mindlessly obey authority and to never question anything...then suddenly we expect them to act like fully realized self actualized adults who can keep society free and make decisions for themselves all on their own?

Well, except for the last part, yeah.

LemSkroob:
This is what all hives will look like soon

Y.T.'s mom has clacked up the stairs in her black pumps and gone
into her office, actually a large room with computer workstations placed
across it in a grid. Used to be divided up by partitions, but the EBGOC boys
didn't like it, said what would happen if there had to be an evacuation? All
those partitions would impede the free flow of unhinged panic. So no more
partitions. Just workstations and chairs. Not even any desktops. Desktops
encourage the use of paper, which is archaic and reflects inadequate team
spirit. What is so special about your work that you have to write it down on
a piece of paper that only you get to see? That you have to lock it away
inside a desk? When you're working for the Feds, everything you do is the
property of the United States of America. You do your work on the computer.
The computer keeps a copy of everything, so that if you get sick or
something, it's all there where your co-workers and supervisors can get
access to it. If you want to write little notes or make phone doodles,
you're perfectly free to do that at home, in your spare time.

And there's the question of interchangeability. Fed workers, like
military people, are intended to be interchangeable parts. What happens if
your workstation should break down? You're going to sit there and twiddle
your thumbs until it gets fixed? No siree, you're going to move to a spare
workstation and get to work on that. And you don't have that flexibility if
you've got half a ton of personal stuff cached inside of a desk, strewn
around a desktop.

So there is no paper in a Fed office. All the workstations are the
same. You come in in the morning, pick one at random, sit down, and get to
work. You could try to favor a particular station, try to sit there every
day, but it would be noticed. Generally you pick the unoccupied workstation
that's closest to the door. That way, whoever came in earliest sits closest,
whoever came in latest is way in the back, for the rest of the day it's
obvious at a glance who's on the ball in this office and who is - as they
whisper to each other in the bathrooms - having problems.

Not that it's any big secret, who comes in first. When you sign on to a
workstation in the morning, it's not like the central computer doesn't
notice that fact. The central computer notices just about everything. Keeps
track of every key you hit on the keyboard, all day long, what time you hit
it, down to the microsecond, whether it was the right key or the wrong key,
how many mistakes you make and when you make them. You're only required to
be at your workstation from eight to five, with a half-hour lunch break and
two ten-minute coffee breaks, but if you stuck to that schedule it would
definitely be noticed, which is why Y.T.'s mom is sliding into the first
unoccupied workstation and signing on to her machine at quarter to seven.
Half a dozen other people are already here, signed on to workstations closer
to the entrance, but this isn't bad. She can look forward to a reasonably
stable career if she can keep up this sort of performance.

Tr0mBoNe:


As long as there are no followup questions, then yes. Yes he can.


What do you mean, "no followup questions"???

I went to a stuffy, authoritarian, no--excuses high school.

Hated every minute.

It turned me into a revolutionary crazy bastard SOB.

\\\ Fair trade.

Wikious: I'm posting this from my office, so I'm getting a kick...


^THIS

Whatever jackasses complained about cubicles in the 90's... fark YOU. Seriously.
Cubicles are great.
These "open office" concepts are awful. Except the SUN product of course.

Millennium: Sid_6.7: LemSkroob: This is what all hives will look like soon

They keep talking about doing that where I work, and my response is along the lines of (without profanity):

"You expect people to write code on laptop keyboards with a tiny monitor and no numeric keypad when we could easily be using desktops? Notice how we all use two monitors now, yet you think a single screen smaller than either of the current ones would work? Are you completely f*cking insane?!"

There's a minority of people who are issued laptops, and have desktops at the office. So people who pay no attention to what 90% of our people do argue that we could save money (they cannot produce evidence supporting this notion) by switching everyone to laptops and getting rid of desktops.

If I wanted to really lower productivity and vastly increase future work-related disability claims (eye sight, RSI, etc.), then I'd definitely go with laptops.

I could almost see a claim that dockable laptops might not be a bad idea, with full-size keyboards and monitors (or even dual-monitor setups) in the cubes. But at that point, desktops become cheaper.

Desktops SOMETIMES become cheaper. Depending on what you need the computers for, desktops and laptops can have very similar price points, even factoring in the dock station.

Of course, you still have to justify why you need to switch everyone to PORTABLE computers when they're all going to sit in the same place all day typing on it.

Begoggle: Whatever jackasses complained about cubicles in the 90's... fark YOU. Seriously.
Cubicles are great.
These "open office" concepts are awful. Except the SUNOracle product of course.

=/ sigh