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   Remember all that fuss about the end of the Space Shuttle program? Good times

10 Dec 2012 02:36 PM   |   21023 clicks   |   Fox News
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Ennuipoet     
THIS is what got Toby in all that trouble during the last years of the Bartlett administration?

10 Dec 2012 02:25 PM
RoyBatty     
Yes subby, a secret unmanned orbiter that few people know exists, few people know what it does, and that carries out very secret missions primarily for the Air Force with no public oversight is cool tag, just like the Space Shuttle.

Maybe if this were 1970 when military demands for this vehicle first farked over NASA in the shape of the Space Shuttle we got.

10 Dec 2012 02:37 PM
Crewmannumber6     
Secret?
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10 Dec 2012 02:38 PM
davidphogan     
That's cool and all, but it's not a cargo or passenger carrier.

10 Dec 2012 02:38 PM
ShawnDoc     
I've seen coverage of this multiple times. Didn't it just return from nearly a year long mission in Aug or Sep?

10 Dec 2012 02:39 PM
Disposable Rob     

RoyBatty: Yes subby, a secret unmanned orbiter that few people know exists, few people know what it does, and that carries out very secret missions primarily for the Air Force with no public oversight is cool tag, just like the Space Shuttle.


With a Democrat President, I'm surprised Fox News didn't claim that it'll be used to spy on God-fearing Americans.

10 Dec 2012 02:41 PM
Amphipath     
FTA: "The Air Force's Rapid Capabilities Office has a mission of expediting the development and fielding of select Department of Defense combat support and weapon systems by leveraging defense-wide technology development efforts and existing operational capabilities."

Leveraging for fielding. Got it.

10 Dec 2012 02:41 PM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  
Is it manned?

No.

Then it's scarcely a replacement, is it?

10 Dec 2012 02:42 PM
snocone    [TotalFark]  
Oh my, what a suprise!

I, for one, am simply flabbergasted.

10 Dec 2012 02:47 PM
Dr.Mxyzptlk.     
You mean peopled. Manned is so 1980's

10 Dec 2012 02:47 PM
Triumph    [TotalFark]  
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Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?

10 Dec 2012 02:48 PM
dittybopper    [TotalFark]  

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Toxic fuels.

10 Dec 2012 02:50 PM
DjangoStonereaver    [TotalFark]  

Triumph:

Link

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


They're hazmat suits, and likely it uses hypergolic fuel, which is about as toxic as you can get without
being radioactive.

10 Dec 2012 02:51 PM
ChipNASA     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Hydrazine rocket fuel.
VERY toxic.

10 Dec 2012 02:51 PM
brokenhandle    [TotalFark]  

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


One word: Hydrazine. Link

10 Dec 2012 02:52 PM
ChipNASA     

DjangoStonereaver: hypergolic fuel,


hypergolic nitrogen tetroxide / hydrazine version....what you said.

10 Dec 2012 02:52 PM
The Irresponsible Captain    [TotalFark]  
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Yo. Just need a rid to the moon. I can find my own way from there.

10 Dec 2012 02:52 PM
Salmon     
You 'Mericans are sending robots to space already?

Pretty cool, I must say

10 Dec 2012 02:53 PM
astroturd     
The AF is going to continue their program which, if they are smart, would still include scientific exploration. That plus the private companies taking over people travel should cover what NASA was doing.

Still dont see a purpose for their existance past a couple of years from now (decades for some projects)....and thats just to wrap up what they started.

10 Dec 2012 02:53 PM
way south     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Hydrozine thrusters.
Reliable, but nasty stuff until the systems purged.
Also, all that baking ceramic and plastic is probably not something you want to inhale.

dittybopper: Is it manned?

No.

Then it's scarcely a replacement, is it?


So build one big enough for three seats and some mail.

/really people, do I have to think of everything?

10 Dec 2012 02:53 PM
omgbears     
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Unimpressed

10 Dec 2012 02:53 PM
way south     

Salmon: You 'Mericans are sending robots to space already?

Pretty cool, I must say


Sending them ain't hard.
Bringing em back, now that's a trick.

10 Dec 2012 02:54 PM
give me doughnuts     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Yes. It ia very radioactive. And full of mutant spiders. With wings.

10 Dec 2012 02:54 PM
Oznog     

RoyBatty: Yes subby, a secret unmanned orbiter that few people know exists, few people know what it does, and that carries out very secret missions primarily for the Air Force with no public oversight is cool tag, just like the Space Shuttle.

Maybe if this were 1970 when military demands for this vehicle first farked over NASA in the shape of the Space Shuttle we got.


It's unpiloted, but not unmanned. Everyone knows the true purpose is to deliver our tribute of orphans to the aliens known as "456", so they can be smoked. That was the agreement.

10 Dec 2012 02:55 PM
StoPPeRmobile     
I see they 3D printed a few parts.

10 Dec 2012 02:58 PM
santadog    [TotalFark]  

The Irresponsible Captain: [www.watchmojo.com image 450x253]

Yo. Just need a rid to the moon. I can find my own way from there.


Anything to get out of Ohio.

10 Dec 2012 02:58 PM
ChipNASA     

ChipNASA: DjangoStonereaver: hypergolic fuel,

hypergolic nitrogen tetroxide / hydrazine version....what you said.


WALL O TEXT if anyone gives a crap:

Hydrazine. Space craft use hydrazine in their orbital maneuvering engines, APUs, and other uses, and it's really really toxic. The F-16 uses it in the Emergency Power Unit that they have in case they lose their engine. If it fires off, the plane has to be parked 100 yards from any other aircraft, and has to sit for four hours before anyone can go near it (after the aircraft is secured). To service the EPU (4-5 hours after the hydrazine has dissipated), you have to wear gloves that go to the shoulder, a face shield, and a full body leather smock, and only two people are allowed to go near the aircraft to service it.

Hydrazine is also used as a low-power monopropellant for the maneuvering thrusters of spacecraft, and the Space Shuttle's auxiliary power units (APUs). In addition, monopropellant hydrazine-fueled rocket engines are often used in terminal descent of spacecraft. Such engines were used on the Viking program landers in the 1970s as well as the Phoenix lander and Curiosity rover which landed on Mars in May 2008 and August 2012, respectively.

In all hydrazine monopropellant engines, the hydrazine is passed by a catalyst such as iridium metal supported by high-surface-area alumina (aluminium oxide) or carbon nanofibers,[26] or more recently molybdenum nitride on alumina,[27] which causes it to decompose into ammonia, nitrogen gas, and hydrogen gas according to the following reactions:

Hydrazine is highly toxic and dangerously unstable, especially in the anhydrous form. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency:

Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma in humans. Acute exposure can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system. The liquid is corrosive and may produce dermatitis from skin contact in humans and animals. Effects to the lungs, liver, spleen, and thyroid have been reported in animals chronically exposed to hydrazine via inhalation. Increased incidences of lung, nasal cavity, and liver tumors have been observed in rodents exposed to hydrazine.[33]

Limit tests for hydrazine in pharmaceuticals suggest that it should be in the low ppm range.[34] Hydrazine may also cause steatosis.[35] At least one human is known to have died, after 6 months of sublethal exposure to hydrazine hydrate.[36]

On February 21, 2008, the United States government destroyed the disabled spy satellite USA 193 with a sea-launched missile, reportedly due to the potential danger of a hydrazine release if it re-entered the Earth's atmosphere intact.[37]

Individuals may be exposed to hydrazine in the workplace or to small amounts in tobacco smoke. Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, and coma in humans. Acute exposure can also damage the liver, kidneys, and central nervous system in humans. The liquid is corrosive and may produce dermatitis from skin contact in humans and animals. Effects to the lungs, liver, spleen, and thyroid have been reported in animals chronically (long-term) exposed to hydrazine via inhalation. Increased incidences of lung, nasal cavity, and liver tumors have been observed in rodents exposed to hydrazine. EPA has classified hydrazine as a Group B2, probable human carcinogen.

10 Dec 2012 02:58 PM
darth_badger     

Oznog: Everyone knows the true purpose is to deliver our tribute of orphans to the aliens known as "456", so they can be smoked. That was the agreement.


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10 Dec 2012 02:59 PM
ChipNASA     

give me doughnuts: Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?

Yes. It is very radioactive. And full of mutant spiders. With wings.


And flying monkeys.

10 Dec 2012 03:00 PM
NeoBad     
Pardon my stupidity, but if it is unmaned, why the windows?

Maybe it is really made by microsoft.

10 Dec 2012 03:00 PM
Tharagleb     

davidphogan: That's cool and all, but it's not a cargo or passenger carrier.


From TFA:
"The X-37B vehicle and its cargo bay packed with a classified payload is set to make the third mission of the program."

10 Dec 2012 03:01 PM
The Irresponsible Captain    [TotalFark]  
People still living who have set foot on the moon:

Buzz Aldrin
Moon walk: July 21, 1969

Alan Bean
Moon walk: November 19, 1969

Edgar Mitchell
Moon walk: February 5, 1971

David Scott
Moon walk: July 31, 1971

John Young
Moon walk: April 21, 1972

Charles Duke
Moon walk: April 21, 1972
Youngest person to walk on moon, being 36 at the time.

Harrison Schmitt
Moon walk: December 11, 1972

Eugene Cernan
Moon walk: December 11, 1972
Last man to walk on moon, as co-astronaut Schmitt returned to the lunar module before him.

10 Dec 2012 03:02 PM
DECMATH     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits?


More important, why does the rear view of it look like a cross-eyed donkey sucking a pacifier?

10 Dec 2012 03:02 PM
JackieRabbit     
Leave it to Fox to try to sensationalize this. There's nothing really secretive about it. The X-37 program has been around for 13 years now somewhat public launch from Edwards AFB in 2010.

Oznog: It's unpiloted, but not unmanned.


It is entirely unmanned. It's not big enough to hold a human -- at least not the B variant. Boeing is working on the C variant now. Big secret, hun?

10 Dec 2012 03:02 PM
ChipNASA     
Just saying...I saw this at a briefing here at work and since I found it on the internets, I'm assuming it's public information ..

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Manned X-37 configurations.

10 Dec 2012 03:04 PM
SkunkWerks     
I too am confused at why Subby seems to think that NASA's budget for the space program resembles the US Military budget in any way short of both being expressed in the US Dollar denomination.

And sure, when we start waging war in space, I won't have to lament the loss of our space program. For- thanks to the sacrosanct nature of our military spending budget- it truly will be good times for NASA.

10 Dec 2012 03:08 PM
nucular bum    [TotalFark]  
*yawn*
Wake me when they start the Helium-3 mining expeditions to the Moon.

10 Dec 2012 03:13 PM
JackieRabbit     

ChipNASA: Just saying...I saw this at a briefing here at work and since I found it on the internets, I'm assuming it's public information ..

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Manned X-37 configurations.


Those are future possible configurations of a scaled up craft. The X-37B is on 29 ft long, nine feet high, with a 14 wing span and a 11K lb total weight. It's about the size of a small two-man trainer aircraft. I can't see fitting six people into that.

10 Dec 2012 03:18 PM
Rezurok     

astroturd: The AF is going to continue their program which, if they are smart, would still include scientific exploration. That plus the private companies taking over people travel should cover what NASA was doing.

Still dont see a purpose for their existance past a couple of years from now (decades for some projects)....and thats just to wrap up what they started.


You best be trollin'

10 Dec 2012 03:18 PM
Rueened     
So, why hasn't 0bama shut down the space program yet? Something else he hasn't got round to?

10 Dec 2012 03:19 PM
OtherLittleGuy    [TotalFark]  
Does it come with its own theme song by Diane Warren?

10 Dec 2012 03:20 PM
davidphogan     

Tharagleb: davidphogan: That's cool and all, but it's not a cargo or passenger carrier.

From TFA:
"The X-37B vehicle and its cargo bay packed with a classified payload is set to make the third mission of the program."


It can carry cargo, but not to the ISS afaik. I should have phrased that better.

10 Dec 2012 03:21 PM
kombat_unit     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Duh, Aliens.

10 Dec 2012 03:23 PM
Shadow Blasko     

StoPPeRmobile: I see they 3D printed a few parts.


I think you missed some punctuation in that.. Perhaps some sort of apostrophe?

10 Dec 2012 03:23 PM
Spartacus Outlaw     
Hmm, I'd head down there and watch the launch, but there's only a 30% chance of favourable weather. A front is moving through here in Gainesville right now. Maybe I'll head down there tomorrow anyway, and just check out the IMAX movie or something if it doesn't launch, or go on a tour.

10 Dec 2012 03:25 PM
StaleCoffee     
That's the new stupid looking Bounty Hunter PVP gear coming in tomorrow, around a D-5 Mantis in for repair.

10 Dec 2012 03:25 PM
maltedmothball     

Triumph: [a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]

Why are the technicians wearing space suits? Is that thing radioactive?


Hypergolic fuel very toxic

10 Dec 2012 03:28 PM
Rent Party     

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: DjangoStonereaver: hypergolic fuel,

hypergolic nitrogen tetroxide / hydrazine version....what you said.

WALL O TEXT if anyone gives a crap:

[lots of nasty shiat]

.


So what is the upside then? Why use this stuff at all if all it's going to do is kill everyone around it and turn your children into seven eyed mutants? What is the benefit that makes people go "yeah, it's the most deadly thing we've ever invented, but..."

10 Dec 2012 03:31 PM
Oznog     

JackieRabbit: Leave it to Fox to try to sensationalize this. There's nothing really secretive about it. The X-37 program has been around for 13 years now somewhat public launch from Edwards AFB in 2010.

Oznog: It's unpiloted, but not unmanned.

It is entirely unmanned. It's not big enough to hold a human -- at least not the B variant. Boeing is working on the C variant now. Big secret, hun?


Not an adult, of course. Small orphans can pack really tight, though.

10 Dec 2012 03:32 PM
Tharagleb     

davidphogan: Tharagleb: davidphogan: That's cool and all, but it's not a cargo or passenger carrier.

From TFA:
"The X-37B vehicle and its cargo bay packed with a classified payload is set to make the third mission of the program."

It can carry cargo, but not to the ISS afaik. I should have phrased that better.


To your point though, it probably can't hold as a much cargo as the shuttle:

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10 Dec 2012 03:34 PM
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