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Mangoose     
The mayor of all NJ?! Whoa.

12 Dec 2012 09:40 PM
gittlebass     
and we shall call him, Stampy

12 Dec 2012 09:43 PM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  
He's not on food stamps, submitter.  He took the Food Stamp Challenge, something he stated he was going to do back in November.  Basically those doing the challenge live for a set number of days on the equivalent of what they would receive if they were eligible for food stamps.  The money used is their own, but they have to follow the guidelines as to what can and cannot be purchased with food stamps.
 
November, 2012 thread.
 
http://www.fark.com/comments/7443566

12 Dec 2012 10:02 PM
BarkingUnicorn     
"I have a meeting now, IN A BAKERY. UGH."

BWAHAHAHAHAA!

12 Dec 2012 10:06 PM
Sid_6.7    [TotalFark]  
I don't know about Jersey prices on it, but you could live on Chef Boyardee for a week at $33 if you had to around here, and have money left over. They have Wal-Mart, right? I would swallow my pride and shop at Wal-Mart if I only had $33 for food for a week.

13 Dec 2012 12:17 AM
Makh    [TotalFark]  
Aw snap.

13 Dec 2012 12:45 AM
FNG    [TotalFark]  
Someone greenlit a "Mayor of New Jersey" link?

13 Dec 2012 01:20 AM
FNG    [TotalFark]  
RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.

13 Dec 2012 01:25 AM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  

FNG: RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.


I remember one time I ate ramen for 10 days straight because that's all I had money for. I don't miss those days.

13 Dec 2012 01:36 AM
propasaurus    [TotalFark]  

RedPhoenix122: FNG: RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.

I remember one time I ate ramen for 10 days straight because that's all I had money for. I don't miss those days.


I once went for about a month on a salad* a day.
Then my ex-GF and I started shoplifting at the grocery store.

But I was a broke dumb kid, living alone. I didn't have to try to feed a family with no money. And I was too dumb to make use of any available resources. And it was over 30 years ago.

* "Salad" in this case was iceberg lettuce, hard boiled egg and low fat blue cheese dressing.

13 Dec 2012 02:00 AM
styckx    [TotalFark]  

Mangoose: The mayor of all NJ?! Whoa.


Came for this... Over in 1

13 Dec 2012 02:52 AM
Twitch Boy    [TotalFark]  
Papa Murphy's pizza would be my choice.

It's uncooked food, so it's eligible. You can make a family sized stuffed last for a few days by yourself.

13 Dec 2012 02:55 AM
Wayne 985     

Sid_6.7: I don't know about Jersey prices on it, but you could live on Chef Boyardee for a week at $33 if you had to around here, and have money left over. They have Wal-Mart, right? I would swallow my pride and shop at Wal-Mart if I only had $33 for food for a week.


I sense a "Supersize Me" level of bodily destruction here... Well okay, maybe not that bad, but you'd still be damaging your health in a pretty gross way.

13 Dec 2012 02:58 AM
UseTheForksLuke     
[Food Stamp Challenge]

Give up your car, and take the bus to get your groceries while your at it...
It would really be hard times if the Congress and the President were on food stamps.
They could be if they would give up their sallary and assetts, instead of farking the
rest of us. The federal reserve create money with the push of a button.
Why do we have income tax again, I forgot?

13 Dec 2012 03:04 AM
sycraft     
Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.

13 Dec 2012 03:11 AM
msupf     

FNG: RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.


RTFA again, it was also about eating nutritious food on that money, which is kind of important where kids are concerned,which is what the issue is also about. It's not just about having enough money for food, but having enough money for the right kinds of food.

That's why some states have started initiatives with farmers markets and some grocery stores to encourage how much of the money is spent on healthy choices in some way. In Michigan, at participating farmers markets, you can get $1 in some form that is good on any food at the market for every $1 of food benefit you spend there. That's huge for people on food assistance, and it helps them to buy fresh produce, which is admittedly higher in price than ramen noodles and other junk food.

13 Dec 2012 03:13 AM
StoPPeRmobile     

UseTheForksLuke: [Food Stamp Challenge]

Give up your car, and take the bus to get your groceries while your at it...
It would really be hard times if the Congress and the President were on food stamps.
They could be if they would give up their sallary and assetts, instead of farking the
rest of us. The federal reserve create money with the push of a button.
Why do we have income tax again, I forgot?


So we can fight them over there instead of here.

Go war on something something.

13 Dec 2012 03:15 AM
UseTheForksLuke     
[Food Stamp Challenge]

. . . and he is only doing it for a week?
      Is that really sacrificing?

13 Dec 2012 03:24 AM
Nightenstaff     
I know it has been said before... but Mayor of New Jersey? I mean, should I even capitalize that?

/although probably political, I approve of these sort of gestures
//are Slim Jims purchasable with SNAP stamps

13 Dec 2012 03:28 AM
UseTheForksLuke     
Nightenstaff: . . .are Slim Jims purchasable with SNAP stamps

The ones you break into cars with? NO
The ones you use for dog treats? YES

13 Dec 2012 03:32 AM
Arumat     

sycraft: Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.


What you're forgetting is that after all the other costs associated with being alive in this country (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, clothing) that there might not BE anything left to spend on food. For a lot of people on public assistance, their SNAP benefits are all they have to spend on food.

13 Dec 2012 03:39 AM
Yogimus     

Sid_6.7: I don't know about Jersey prices on it, but you could live on Chef Boyardee for a week at $33 if you had to around here, and have money left over. They have Wal-Mart, right? I would swallow my pride and shop at Wal-Mart if I only had $33 for food for a week.


Oh you poor little elitist biatch. You don't have to impress us.

13 Dec 2012 03:45 AM
Elmo Jones     
"Anyone who has ever struggled with poverty knows how extremely expensive it is to be poor."
-James Baldwin

13 Dec 2012 04:04 AM
Mimic_Octopus     

Arumat: sycraft: Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.

What you're forgetting is that after all the other costs associated with being alive in this country (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, clothing) that there might not BE anything left to spend on food. For a lot of people on public assistance, their SNAP benefits are all they have to spend on food.


uhhh, clothes are a once a year expense for kids, once every few years for adults. (except socks) if you shop clothes once a month get over yourself fashionista...

13 Dec 2012 04:06 AM
Cyclometh     
$33 for a week of food?

god damn.

13 Dec 2012 04:17 AM
majik624     

FNG: RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.


The guy's a vegetarian. Vege hotdogs are expensive. So are vege raman.

13 Dec 2012 04:18 AM
majik624     

sycraft: Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.


And then there is reality. All of your cash goes to keep the electricity from being cut off and some oil in the tank to keep from freezing. And that's not even paying the whole bills for either. Just enough. Gas in the tank. There is no cash left for food. Cash is hoarded for essentials that SNAP doesn't cover. Toilet paper, toothpaste, soap, shampoo, etc. You can buy a snickers with it but you can't buy vitamins to keep you healthy. And I've seen poor families buy ground beef and steak for their dogs because it doesn't cover pet food (nor should it). Some families save their cash for the cigarettes and booze. Priorities, man.

13 Dec 2012 04:28 AM
Mimic_Octopus     
poor people dont have the luxury of being vegetarian. you eat what your environment and capacity afford. like every other omnivore on earth

13 Dec 2012 04:40 AM
Arumat     

Mimic_Octopus: Arumat: sycraft:
*snip*

What you're forgetting is that after all the other costs associated with being alive in this country (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, clothing) that there might not BE anything left to spend on food. For a lot of people on public assistance, their SNAP benefits are all they have to spend on food.

uhhh, clothes are a once a year expense for kids, once every few years for adults. (except socks) if you shop clothes once a month get over yourself fashionista...


I never intended to imply that clothing was a month to month cost, but they ARE an essential that SNAP benefits won't cover. Unless piling up Indecent Exposure convictions is your thing, of course.

13 Dec 2012 04:46 AM
majik624     
I agree that vegetarian and vegan are a luxury. I myself wouldn't pay $6 for a pack of hotdogs when I can get turkey dogs for $1. It's just plain economics. You also can't afford NOT to shop at walmart. Yet these same people all have a satellite dish and smart phones. Go figure.

13 Dec 2012 04:48 AM
Radioactive Ass    [TotalFark]  
If you can't eat a reasonably healthy diet for $33 a week you really shouldn't be in charge of deciding how a city pays for the stuff that it uses, much less be at the state level of those decisions.

Let's see, around here (which ain't exactly cheap) for $33 and some change I can get:

5 chicken leg quarters @ ~$1.00 ea ($5.00)
About a pound and a half of ground meat for ~ $3.50
2 lbs of spaghetti for about another $3.50
2 large cans of Del Monte canned pasta sauce (mushroom) for less than $4.00
5 lbs of rice for $4.00 (much cheaper by the 50 lb bag)
1 dozen jumbo eggs for $2.20
Salt and pepper for a week is probably about a buck tops

Call it $24 dollars.

That leaves $9 for veggies.

Spinach is $0.69 a bunch (roughly 1 lb)
I just saw some broccoli for $0.79 a lb
Green bell peppers at $1.00 a lb
Cauliflower @ $1.99 a head
Potatoes $1.39 for 5 lbs
Dried red beans @ $1.99 a lb

That's more than enough for 3 decent meals per day for a week. The variety kinda sucks but it's certainly doable. He could even swap out the rice and get a larger bag of potatoes and be able to at least get about 100 tea bags for his caffeine fix.

This guy was trying to get by on that amount of money while still eating a vegetarian diet. He clearly didn't put much thought into what to get ahead of time nor did he plan ahead on what he was going to eat each day. Seriously, buying canned beans? That's probably a 400% markup from dried plus the canned ones are loaded with sodium to boot.

13 Dec 2012 04:53 AM
0z79     

majik624: sycraft: Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

And then there is reality. All of your cash goes to keep the electricity from being cut off and some oil in the tank to keep from freezing. And that's not even paying the whole bills for either. Just enough. Gas in the tank. There is no cash left for food. Cash is hoarded for essentials that SNAP doesn't cover. Toilet paper, toothpaste, soap, shampoo, etc. You can buy a snickers with it but you can't buy vitamins to keep you healthy. And I've seen poor families buy ground beef and steak for their dogs because it doesn't cover pet food (nor should it). Some families save their cash for the cigarettes and booze. Priorities, man.


Exactly... If you're so poor that you need public assistance, you shouldn't even HAVE pets. Butcher them, feed the meat to your family and save some of your hard-earned money for more sugar-laden cereal for the munchkins.... just don't tell them what was in the stew.


/Joking, have known a lot of people on public assistance
//Kind of tired of people's cynical "decrease the surplus population" attitudes

13 Dec 2012 05:47 AM
Bathia_Mapes    [TotalFark]  

Mimic_Octopus: Arumat: sycraft: Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.

What you're forgetting is that after all the other costs associated with being alive in this country (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, clothing) that there might not BE anything left to spend on food. For a lot of people on public assistance, their SNAP benefits are all they have to spend on food.

uhhh, clothes are a once a year expense for kids, once every few years for adults. (except socks) if you shop clothes once a month get over yourself fashionista...



Most children go through stages where they have growth spurts.  It's not uncommon for them to outgrow shoes and clothing within months of purchase.
 
My son's personal record was outgrowing a pair of brand new shoes in a month when he was 10-years old.  And I had bought him a size larger than he needed too. 

13 Dec 2012 05:58 AM
BoxOfBees     

Radioactive Ass: If you can't eat a reasonably healthy diet for $33 a week you really shouldn't be in charge of deciding how a city pays for the stuff that it uses, much less be at the state level of those decisions.

...

That's more than enough for 3 decent meals per day for a week. The variety kinda sucks but it's certainly doable. He could even swap out the rice and get a larger bag of potatoes and be able to at least get about 100 tea bags for his caffeine fix.

This guy was trying to get by on that amount of money while still eating a vegetarian diet. He clearly didn't put much thought into what to get ahead of time nor did he plan ahead on what he was going to eat each day. Seriously, buying canned beans? That's probably a 400% markup from dried plus the canned ones are loaded with sodium to boot.


I agree, but anyone trying to be completely rational misses the point of these food stamp challenges. The point is almost always to tell everyone how the people who are receiving free stuff don't get enough free stuff to live for free.

Even in New Jersey I can easily feed myself for $33/wk just by smart shopping at Shoprite. Most of the people on food stamps are not smart shoppers, which is why they are on food stamps - they don't know how to budget, save money, etc. Apparently Cory Booker is another one of those poor decision-makers. Sweet potatoes? No, you should buy regular potatoes because they are cheaper, bro.

The first week will be really tough to get enough food if you start with no food stores, but nowhere near impossible. After one week of eating a low-variety diet, you should already have some grains in the cabinet, like cold cereal or oatmeal, rice, etc. The second week you will be able to buy some more nutritious foods instead of just staples. I lived on about $20/wk for food in New York City a few years ago. $33 per person per week is not that hard to do if you are disciplined.

The most important lesson here is that when you eat for free, you should not expect variety, quality, and a perpetually full belly. Still, hungry != starving.

13 Dec 2012 06:25 AM
hitlersbrain     
I think what we need is a more mobile work force. Have some means of making it easier for people to move where there are jobs.

I also really think we need a push to either reduce the cost of college or just get rid of the antiquated pay-to-work racket altogether. Focus more on 'on the job training' programs. Most people can do most jobs when they are given the chance (even when they're not forced to take trash 'electives' and taught with outdated text books).

13 Dec 2012 06:34 AM
Animatronik     

BoxOfBees: Radioactive Ass: If you can't eat a reasonably healthy diet for $33 a week you really shouldn't be in charge of deciding how a city pays for the stuff that it uses, much less be at the state level of those decisions.

...

That's more than enough for 3 decent meals per day for a week. The variety kinda sucks but it's certainly doable. He could even swap out the rice and get a larger bag of potatoes and be able to at least get about 100 tea bags for his caffeine fix.

This guy was trying to get by on that amount of money while still eating a vegetarian diet. He clearly didn't put much thought into what to get ahead of time nor did he plan ahead on what he was going to eat each day. Seriously, buying canned beans? That's probably a 400% markup from dried plus the canned ones are loaded with sodium to boot.

I agree, but anyone trying to be completely rational misses the point of these food stamp challenges. The point is almost always to tell everyone how the people who are receiving free stuff don't get enough free stuff to live for free.

Even in New Jersey I can easily feed myself for $33/wk just by smart shopping at Shoprite. Most of the people on food stamps are not smart shoppers, which is why they are on food stamps - they don't know how to budget, save money, etc. Apparently Cory Booker is another one of those poor decision-makers. Sweet potatoes? No, you should buy regular potatoes because they are cheaper, bro.

The first week will be really tough to get enough food if you start with no food stores, but nowhere near impossible. After one week of eating a low-variety diet, you should already have some grains in the cabinet, like cold cereal or oatmeal, rice, etc. The second week you will be able to buy some more nutritious foods instead of just staples. I lived on about $20/wk for food in New York City a few years ago. $33 per person per week is not that hard to do if you are disciplined.

The most important lesson here is that when you eat for free, you should not expect variety, quality, and a perpetually full belly. Still, hungry != starving.


I sometimes wonder if stores should provide shopping lists for low income food shoppers, because nutritional smarts is half the battle.

13 Dec 2012 06:45 AM
HindiDiscoMonster    [TotalFark]  

Sid_6.7: I don't know about Jersey prices on it, but you could live on Chef Boyardee for a week at $33 if you had to around here, and have money left over. They have Wal-Mart, right? I would swallow my pride and shop at Wal-Mart if I only had $33 for food for a week.


and do you wonder why obesity is a problem among the poor?

13 Dec 2012 06:49 AM
HindiDiscoMonster    [TotalFark]  

sycraft: Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.


1> everyone knows what the acronym stands for
2> everyone who is on the program or similar program knows that it doesn't work that way in reality
3> everyone who is not on the program or similar program should try doing it for at least 1month so they can walk a mile in someone else' shoes so to speak
4> as to the rice option, this is one of the big reasons we have such an obesity epidemic... the get whatever mentality... if healthier was an option, most people on snap programs would choose it, but it's not an option.

13 Dec 2012 06:55 AM
HindiDiscoMonster    [TotalFark]  

Mimic_Octopus: Arumat: sycraft: Well to be fair to the program it's proper name is SNAP Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. The idea is NOT that it is supposed to provide enough money to buy all your food, but rather to provide extra money, for food only, to supplement people's diets with better food. So the thought is that without SNAP, you might have only a few bucks a day to spend on food, and do it on poor quality food like McDonald's burgers (their $1 burgers are like 400 calories, it is hard to beat in terms of money for calories and is full of fat, sugar, and salt so it tastes good). With SNAP, you have some extra money for food, so you can afford to buy food that costs a bit more, but hopefully is better for you.

Now you can argue the program should be changed to flat out cover food expenses if you like, but that isn't the design. It is designed to give you extra cash so that your food budget is bigger.

In the event you do want to do a "food stamp" challenge or the like the key is rice. You can get a big ole' bag of rice for pretty cheap. You can find 50 pounds of rice for less than $20 usually. That is about 26,000 calories, so enough to meet calories needs even for a fairly large person for over a week. The rest then goes to cheap fixin's for it. Not what I'd call fun eating, but doable.

What you're forgetting is that after all the other costs associated with being alive in this country (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, clothing) that there might not BE anything left to spend on food. For a lot of people on public assistance, their SNAP benefits are all they have to spend on food.

uhhh, clothes are a once a year expense for kids, once every few years for adults. (except socks) if you shop clothes once a month get over yourself fashionista...


that was slick how you ignored all the other points... bravo

13 Dec 2012 06:58 AM
HindiDiscoMonster    [TotalFark]  

Radioactive Ass: If you can't eat a reasonably healthy diet for $33 a week you really shouldn't be in charge of deciding how a city pays for the stuff that it uses, much less be at [snip]


That was well thought out. Remember where you are though. There are some problems with it... the reality for most people down here is they have about $16.80 to $21 per week ($84) per month if you are a single person - the variation depends on if it's a 4 or 5 week month. Try living on that money for a month and eat healthy... then we'll talk (but do it for a month, and tell us how you feel at the end of the month).

The only way to realistically do it, is to have two or more people living under the same roof, but report their meals are separate, thereby providing each with the same amount of snap assistance instead of reporting meals eaten together which causes them to only give 1/2 of that assistance to one person. Once you have accomplished that, you can buy some things in bulk so that two people can eat fairly ok each month.

The reality of the system is there is a cap to how much you can make in a month (disability included) to even get snap. That cap is $1100.00. If you make over that much even by 1¢ you get nothing. The cash that you make must go toward things that snap does not cover, such as rent, electricity, heat, toiletries, etc. By the time all the bills are paid, there is nothing left...

Of course you could always live on the street if you have the chops for it and eat well, but of course no snap assistance on the street, and no shelter so you may freeze to death or become a jailhouse homeless person (always in jail for loitering).

The problem is this... we live in one of the richest nations on the planet. There is no reason whatsoever that we should have people starving, or homeless in this country... none. full stop.

13 Dec 2012 07:14 AM
ginandbacon    [TotalFark]  
Ew. Merry Christmas you sad sacks.

Also, old story is old.

13 Dec 2012 07:23 AM
hodaka     
I typically live on about $150 worth of groceries per month. It's only me and my daughter when I have her. I also hunt and that helps with having meat in the freezer. I'm not on any type of program for help or necessarily destitute. I just have a child support payment that has to be paid every month, so I've learned how to shop without breaking the bank.

13 Dec 2012 07:30 AM
Radioactive Ass    [TotalFark]  

HindiDiscoMonster: That was well thought out. Remember where you are though. There are some problems with it... the reality for most people down here is they have about $16.80 to $21 per week ($84) per month if you are a single person - the variation depends on if it's a 4 or 5 week month. Try living on that money for a month and eat healthy... then we'll talk (but do it for a month, and tell us how you feel at the end of the month).


I have done that in the past. Sure it sucked as I had limited options on what I could get so the variety wasn't all there but I wasn't starving or anything like that and at least had a fairly well rounded diet nutritionally speaking. The thing is that apparently a lot of people don't know how to cook with less than optimal (top shelf) ingredients or that buying the stuff in season instead of out of season is cheaper or that buying generic and store brand stuff is cheaper than buying name brands or that when possible buy in bulk.

I can make half a chicken 4 cups of rice and some veggies like spinach, an onion and some garlic last for 2-3 days. Swap out red beans for chicken the next time around and break it up with rice and eggs for breakfast. You can eat for a week on less than $10 if you really had to and planned ahead accordingly. I wouldn't recommend it for a long term diet plan but most welfare type assistance plans aren't intended to go on forever either.

It helps if you write up a menu for the week (or longer) and stick to it as well. When I was doing it that way I knew a week in advance what I was planning to eat the next Friday. You also might have to go shop in places that are a bit off of the beaten path or that are a bit more "Ethnic" in nature and try making food different from what you're used to making just to break up the monotony. I lived in a place once that didn't have a "White" grocery store anywhere near where I lived (Wonder bread was $5 a loaf in that place while Hawaiian bread was $2)) so I learned how to prepare Asian and Pacific Islander type foods because that's what was the easiest and cheapest to get at the time.

I understand that a lot of poor people might not have all of the options that they want but there's no reason to not have what you need provided that you're willing to step a bit outside of the box and realize that there's no substantive difference between most food brands and that you can make a pigs ass taste good if you prepare and cook it right. It's really not too much different than going on a diet to lose weight, you just have to not cheat and eat healthy in regards to having a balanced diet.

13 Dec 2012 08:07 AM
Marcintosh     

RedPhoenix122: FNG: RTFA. Poor guy doesn't remember ramen noodles, mac and cheese, and hot dogs.

I remember one time I ate ramen for 10 days straight because that's all I had money for. I don't miss those days.


I ate my way through a 50# bag of rice. Rice and sugar for breakfast. Rice and ketchup for lunch. Rice and hot sauce for dinner. The condiments were complements of the local take out's. 50. Pounds.

Then it got worse.

13 Dec 2012 08:20 AM
fireclown     
I don't know how good of a mayor he is (I'd like to hear from any Newark farkers), but he's right good fun for the rest of us. Dude saved his neighbors life a few months back and now this. Seems like a hell of a guy.

13 Dec 2012 08:21 AM
Radioactive Ass    [TotalFark]  

fireclown: I don't know how good of a mayor he is (I'd like to hear from any Newark farkers)


As I noted earlier, his choices for what he bought at the beginning of his week didn't exactly make me confident that his budgeting skills are all that hot. I would think that managing a budget within your means is a good part of being a mayor in almost any sized town or city.

13 Dec 2012 08:30 AM
msticaries79     
That was well thought out. Remember where you are though. There are some problems with it... the reality for most people down here is they have about $16.80 to $21 per week ($84) per month if you are a single person - the variation depends on if it's a 4 or 5 week month. Try living on that money for a month and eat healthy... then we'll talk (but do it for a month, and tell us how you feel at the end of the month).

I'll do it if you do it. I don't think it's all that difficult to do. I have always cooked my meals using fresh ingredients and I don't spend more than $150 a month in the grocery store (and that includes the non-grocery items I buy). So, who's up for the challenge?

13 Dec 2012 08:52 AM
dickfreckle     
I was on food stamps following a huge natural disaster (job gone, city mostly gone - kinda farked in every way). I was genuinely shocked by how little it really is (about $50 a week in this case). Yeah, you can survive on mac 'n cheese if you absolutely have to, but it's hardly the life of luxury some 'conservative' pundits would have you believe. With my own money I typically spent $100 a week on food and non-alcoholic beverage (yeah yeah I sound fat, etc).

What's worse were the nasty stares I got from snooty people standing behind me in line, as though they'd never seen a white guy buy ground beef and Hamburger Helper with an EBT card before.

The experience of suddenly being thrust out of my own life through no fault of my own is what solidified me as a fire-spitting liberal.

13 Dec 2012 09:09 AM
Mrbogey     
We encourage poor people to live in places where housing is expensive and fresh food costs a lot. Great system you got there.

In the middle of nowhere rural America, a small house can be both for as much a month as most pay for rent in inner city slums. You can also grow most of your own food and not worry about crime.

13 Dec 2012 09:14 AM
Ficoce     
I find it hard to believe the guy is a vegetarian and he bought canned beans with no rice. Dried beans and rice is cheap and the basic food of vegetarians. Gives all the protein he would need - and he should know it. A veggie buying canned beans is really odd - too expensive. You just doctor up the two basic items with different spices; it could be Spanish, curry, cream base, broth - whatever. I tend to use a lot of taco seasonings. The olive oil was a good choice, actually. The bagged salad? Again, an odd choice for someone that knows better; same thing with cauliflower.

He probably is a vegetarian and knows how easy it is to eat healthy for very little money - he took a fall on principle. Even if meat was his staple food and veggies were just garnish - he could of lived on 4 McDoubles a day off the dollar menu and had money left over at the end of the week. You can't buy that on food stamps, but he wasn't "really" on food stamps. I guess this just proves normal people have a difficult time pretending to be poor.

13 Dec 2012 09:22 AM
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