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13 Dec 2012 11:30 PM   |   3719 clicks   |   CBC
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BSABSVR     
Cops hate being held accountable.

13 Dec 2012 08:01 PM
The_Sponge    [TotalFark]  
Solution:

All their name tags should say "Gene".

13 Dec 2012 08:16 PM
toddalmighty    [TotalFark]  

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


This, eh

13 Dec 2012 08:16 PM
DownDaRiver     
If I had to tell some fat Budwieser swilling american from Wisconsin that I was confiscating the fish he caught and illegally cleaned. I wouldn't want him knowing my name either.

13 Dec 2012 08:20 PM
Dead for Tax Reasons     
Next they'll be told they can't wear tuques or say 'eh'

/what's that aboot

13 Dec 2012 08:21 PM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  
So they have 1374 badges that say Gordon?

13 Dec 2012 08:25 PM
Snarfangel    [TotalFark]  

The_Sponge: Solution:

All their name tags should say "Gene".


I was thinking more along the lines of "Friend," "Buddy," "Pal," and "Guy."

13 Dec 2012 08:28 PM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?

13 Dec 2012 08:33 PM
BSABSVR     

fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?


Transposing a number is a lot easier than confusing Johnson with Kweli.

13 Dec 2012 09:12 PM
jehovahs witness protection     
Or it could be Habib. Habib. Habib.

13 Dec 2012 09:28 PM
Methadone Girls    [TotalFark]  
Much better than the last time they walked off the job. Like, who gets maple syrup as a bonus anyway? it's not like it grows on trees...

13 Dec 2012 11:10 PM
The_Sponge    [TotalFark]  

Snarfangel: I was thinking more along the lines of "Friend," "Buddy," "Pal," and "Guy."


feckingmorons: So they have 1374 badges that say Gordon?



LOL and LOL.

13 Dec 2012 11:27 PM
Popcorn Johnny     

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


That has nothing to do with it, they've always worn a tag, just one with a badge number instead of their name.

13 Dec 2012 11:36 PM
H31N0US     
My guess was boredom.

13 Dec 2012 11:36 PM
omgwtfetc     

fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?


"Hang on officer, I'm just trying to find some pen and paper to write down your 5 digit ID number. Oh, I have to go to secondary inspection now? But why?"

13 Dec 2012 11:37 PM
skinink     
These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know. Dave the border agent, I really don't know him...

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These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know!

13 Dec 2012 11:37 PM
Brian Ryanberger     
On the one hand you laugh at Canada all the time anytime anything even remotely funny about how farked up Canada is, yet progressives see that as their dream for us to be Canada.

13 Dec 2012 11:38 PM
Glendale     

omgwtfetc: fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?

"Hang on officer, I'm just trying to find some pen and paper to write down your 5 digit ID number. Oh, I have to go to secondary inspection now? But why?"


Is it really that hard to remember a 5 digit number?

13 Dec 2012 11:40 PM
Eltardo     
I've been told at more than one job that is customer facing to not give out my last name. I always thought it was a sound policy when dealing with the public. I'm not sure I'd walk out of a job because of it but would I not be pleased about it. Honestly I'd probably scratch it off the badge or something similar and keep on keepin' on.

13 Dec 2012 11:40 PM
AliceBToklasLives     
FTA: "Personalized name tags reflect our commitment to service excellence and reinforce the professionalism and integrity for which CBSA officers are known," the agency stated in a release.

In light of that BS, everyone involved in this is wrong

13 Dec 2012 11:40 PM
WildKard     
The union representing the border agents argues that being forced to wear a name tag, with officers' last names displayed, potentially opens them up to retaliation from angry drivers.

Well as a peon wearing a nametag, I don't want my last name displayed either. But aren't these guys that sign the paperwork "Officer Henderson" or "J. Lastname" or whatever anyway?

/hello,mynameisinigomontoyayoukilledm yfather.jpg here.

13 Dec 2012 11:45 PM
omgwtfetc     

Glendale: omgwtfetc: fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?

"Hang on officer, I'm just trying to find some pen and paper to write down your 5 digit ID number. Oh, I have to go to secondary inspection now? But why?"

Is it really that hard to remember a 5 digit number?


For some people, yes. Furthermore, I'm guessing that someone who would want to ID a particular officer would likely be distracted by other things at that moment and wouldn't be particularly adept at memorization exercises.

13 Dec 2012 11:45 PM
Gyrfalcon    [TotalFark]  
Marianne Hladun, the union's regional vice-president for the Prairies, says some of the officers don't feel safe having their last names on their name tags.

"There's no reason to put a name tag on an officer, which then puts not only them, but their families, at risk," she told CBC News.


If you're doing something at a border crossing that puts your families at risk....then not having your name on a name tag isn't really going to protect them, dummies.

Seriously. Making a driver mad because you cited him for a cracked taillight isn't something he's going to retaliate for; and any drug smuggler who wants to get you won't need a silly name tag to find out where you live and blow up your house.

13 Dec 2012 11:45 PM
Nothing To See Here     
Badges, eh
We don't have to wear no stinkin badges.

13 Dec 2012 11:46 PM
Loren     

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


Exactly. I don't care if the cops use real names on their tags. I care that the cop can be identified later.

fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?


It's too easy to make an error and even if you get it right the cop can create reasonable doubt by saying you got it wrong.

13 Dec 2012 11:47 PM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  
The more jerks in a given work situation, the less likely the name on the name tag is correct.

The more illegal aliens in a given work situation, the less likely the name on the passport or green card is correct.

The more Israeli Mossad agents in a given situation, the more likely one of them will be carrying a Canadian passport despite never having been anywhere near Canada (apparently they are easy to fake, steal, or use to commit an assassination without being suspected).

If you ever meet a man or woman who is wearing the wrong name tag, carrying a Canadian passport, has a green card that says "José" and looks like a total jerk, run. He or she is probably a Mossad agent and the shooting may start at any moment. This is especially true if the name tag says "Achmed" and the jerk is driving like James "Licence to Kill" Bond.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Canadian passports are made by Americans, Brits, or Israeli moles. It could even be right wing Canadians who supply them. But the supply is suspiciously reliable.

Every time I look at a coin it has a new design but they can't put any new designs into Canadian passports apparently.

That's just a pet peeve of mine. That and the price they're charging for them. $95 for a licence to get out of the country? How cheap do they think American chicken and milk are? Well, I suppose if you buy for several weeks at a time.

13 Dec 2012 11:49 PM
Spartacus Outlaw     
Maybe it makes them feel like they are lower class workers? I don't think they are, but a long time ago someone I knew said that if you have a job where you have to wear a name tag, you have a crappy job. Maybe that attitude is spilling over. I myself have a professional job for which I am licensed and spent a good deal of money and time on, and I have a name tag on my coat. I can't help but notice that it makes me look like a front line CSR, though. Although, CSR is a part of my job.

13 Dec 2012 11:49 PM
ModernLuddite     
The CBSA has a reputation for being complete bastards to Canadians re-entering Canada.

They are nice and polite and awesome to non-Canadians. But God help you if you want to re-enter your own country. God help you.

//Obviously, I support the CBSA agents being identifiable.
///They're basically CRA agents with the power to detain you.

13 Dec 2012 11:49 PM
The_Sponge    [TotalFark]  

Spartacus Outlaw: I don't think they are, but a long time ago someone I knew said that if you have a job where you have to wear a name tag, you have a crappy job.



Heh....I haven't thought about that in years.

/Only wore one when I worked at a grocery store back in high school.

13 Dec 2012 11:52 PM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  
I think poor Canadians should be allowed out of the country FREE. Let them move to Florida in the Winter and add to the weirdness. Their welfare, unemployment and old age cheques would go a lot further in the Stunned South. You can buy booze, guns, ammo and $3 chickens in convenience stores!

And stores selling "Antiques" are every 1.5 miles along the roads in Maine. Some of them sell Antikes, which are really, really old, because they are spelled in Ancient Greek.

I've even seen stores that sell guns, ammo, gasoline, food, AND Antiques. They are full of valuable stuff. They all have bars on the windows.

The Deep South starts at Calais, ME.

13 Dec 2012 11:54 PM
Pribar     

brantgoose: Let them move to Florida in the Winter


Now wait a minute,
1- we have enough problems with our home grown weirdness,
2-we don't need you Canuks coming down here and taking police blotter spaces that could be filled by honest to God Americans

14 Dec 2012 12:03 AM
bubo_sibiricus     

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


Canadian Customs and Immigration style is far different than US Customs and Immigration, and having dealt with them many, many times, I would say that I've never come across even a single rude customs agent having a bad day. Because honestly, they're more professional than the ones on the US side who use intimidation (like the morning shift in Vermont, especially morning shift in VT). Indeed, it feels like coming back to a prison every time I come back from Canada. I'm waiting for the day for the US border guys to refuse me entry to my own country.

But don't take this to mean that Canadian customs is manned by a bunch of milquetoasts. They can smell someone trying to pull a fast one a mile away (I've seen this up close and thankfully not happen to me personally), which is proof that you don't need to be an asshole to do the job. It's an entirely different work culture dependent on the management style on that side. Canadian Customs and Immigration do a thankless task (just as thankless as the American side) but they typically typically don't let the stress of the job get to them as much as the US side. This is changing because Harper is a weasel and is fond of US management styles. The nametag nonsense is a US thing.

P.S. A year and a half before 9/11, Canadian Immigration started wearing weapons for the first time ever. It was disappointing (and horrifying to me, honestly) and the agent I mentioned this to said that they didn't like it either but "something is going on."

14 Dec 2012 12:06 AM
stickandmove     

The_Sponge: Solution:

All their name tags should say "Gene".


THAT MUST BE Gene Gene The Dancing Machine

14 Dec 2012 12:10 AM
EggSniper     
FTFA The union representing the border agents argues that being forced to wear a name tag, with officers' last names displayed, potentially opens them up to retaliation from angry drivers.

Retaliation for what? It's not like these guys are purposefully screwing people over. You act like they're going to do something ridiculously childish and petty like refusing to work instead of wearing a name tag like everyone else in law enforcement.

Using your name to track you down is way more hassle than simply following you home. Perhaps we can get some nice, competent non-union folks to come in and actually do the job and be grateful for having it.

14 Dec 2012 12:11 AM
PaulieattheTap     

skinink: These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know. Dave the border agent, I really don't know him...

[canadianmusichalloffame.ca image 275x185]


These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know!


The first thing I thought!

/ curses!

14 Dec 2012 12:16 AM
zerkalo     
You get to tear apart my auto at the border? Wear the name tag, sport

14 Dec 2012 12:25 AM
golem222     
I actually understand the cops position on this one, this sets them up for possible reprisal if they make an arrest or search the wrong persons car.

14 Dec 2012 12:25 AM
twistofsin     
Good for them.

I hate name tags and would have refused to wear them to.

14 Dec 2012 12:27 AM
Kevin72    [TotalFark]  

Snarfangel: The_Sponge: Solution:

All their name tags should say "Gene".

I was thinking more along the lines of "Friend," "Buddy," "Pal," and "Guy."


Gene Masseth. It's an inside joke.

14 Dec 2012 12:28 AM
Omis     

Loren: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

Exactly. I don't care if the cops use real names on their tags. I care that the cop can be identified later.

fusillade762: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

From TFA:

Hladun said the officers already wear tags that show their five-digit identification numbers.

They can't be held accountable how?

It's too easy to make an error and even if you get it right the cop can create reasonable doubt by saying you got it wrong.


Border guards aren't like police officers. They can't stop you and harass you where ever they please. They are at specific locations. They are scheduled to work at specific times. If one does harass you, internal investigations will have no problem finding out who it was. There are security cameras watching everything they do. There is no need for you to know the officers name. There is no need for the gang banger, whose drugs they confiscated, to know what their name is either.

14 Dec 2012 01:05 AM
cedarpark     
They already wear numbers for identification, but my guess is they realize that 193804 is a lot harder to remember than 'SMITH',

14 Dec 2012 01:09 AM
Rabbitgod     

BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.


I just went through customs a few days ago at the ambassador bridge, had a nice chat while they did a cargo inspection on me. The girl told me straight up that she doesn't want to ware a name tag because she doesn't want anyone looking her up after she does her job and confiscates shat from stupid people that thinks it's ok to carry 10 cartons of cigs or a case of whiskey across the border.

She said a badge number was fine, but they took their badges away a month ago. They're slowly down grading Canadian border patrol agents from federal officers to mall cops and they aren't having any of it.

14 Dec 2012 01:22 AM
omgwtfetc     

Rabbitgod: BSABSVR: Cops hate being held accountable.

I just went through customs a few days ago at the ambassador bridge, had a nice chat while they did a cargo inspection on me. The girl told me straight up that she doesn't want to ware a name tag because she doesn't want anyone looking her up after she does her job and confiscates shat from stupid people that thinks it's ok to carry 10 cartons of cigs or a case of whiskey across the border.

She said a badge number was fine, but they took their badges away a month ago. They're slowly down grading Canadian border patrol agents from federal officers to mall cops and they aren't having any of it.


Speaking as a Canadian, I have this theory that Canadian border guards act a lot shiattier towards Canadians than they do towards Americans. From what I've heard, I'm pretty sure American guards treat Americans harsher than they treat Canadians. Most American guards I've dealt with have actually been very pleasant, much more so than their Canadian counterparts. I've noticed in your profile that you live in the US. Do you think it's possible that in the interest of tourism or cross-border trade, guards on both sides of the border have been trained to treat foreign visitors better than they treat their own citizens? How do you feel about American border guards wearing name tags?

14 Dec 2012 01:35 AM
TehBoognish     
FTFA:The CBSA said the disruptions are because the unionized border officers are refusing to wear name tags - a new policy that went into effect on Tuesday.

The union representing the border agents argues that being forced to wear a name tag, with officers' last names displayed, potentially opens them up to retaliation from angry drivers.

I see the problem here. Union dues aren't high enough. Need to increase union labor income. How can we strike?

14 Dec 2012 01:54 AM
the_chief     
Next they'll want to wear balaclavas like Mexican cops.

14 Dec 2012 01:56 AM
TheVeryDeadIanMartin     

bubo_sibiricus: Indeed, it feels like coming back to a prison every time I come back from Canada. I'm waiting for the day for the US border guys to refuse me entry to my own country.


Funny, I feel that way when I fly into Canada from Europe. Unlike in Europe, the Canadian customs officers in the airport wear rubber gloves, body armour, and sometimes masks. And on top of that, there's always one walking around the baggage carousel with a dog. It's all very intimidating and not the way it used to be. And when they ask me, a Canadian, what my business in Canada is, I am always at a loss for words.

14 Dec 2012 02:11 AM
Colin O'Scopy     

Brian Ryanberger: On the one hand you laugh at Canada all the time anytime anything even remotely funny about how farked up Canada is, yet progressives see that as their dream for us to be Canada.


We currently have a republiTard in power. There's your answer.

14 Dec 2012 02:14 AM
MadSkillz     

ModernLuddite: The CBSA has a reputation for being complete bastards to Canadians re-entering Canada.

They are nice and polite and awesome to non-Canadians. But God help you if you want to re-enter your own country. God help you.

//Obviously, I support the CBSA agents being identifiable.
///They're basically CRA agents with the power to detain you.


I had some bad paperwork and was refused entry into the USA and came back to the Canadian border station. Because I'm a giant wuss I was crying and they just let me through with no questions.

CBSA aren't all that bad.

14 Dec 2012 02:16 AM
Ivo Shandor    [TotalFark]  

jehovahs witness protection: Or it could be Habib. Habib. Habib.


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14 Dec 2012 02:38 AM
gelovani     
Next they'll be told they can't wear tuques or say 'eh'

/what's that aboot


It's, 'Touques'.

Aaand. I've only ever heard one Canadian, and it was on the radio, who said, 'aboot'. So, why don't you go 'owt' to the 'foier', put on your jacket and go check your, 'ruf' and see how the shingles are doin?

14 Dec 2012 02:46 AM
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