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   Good: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million; Bad: you lose it all after training the 9/11 terrorist pilots; Worse: you hit rock bottom and get arrested last week for being a drug mule

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CruiserTwelve    [TotalFark]  
Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million

14 Dec 2012 04:08 AM
homelessdude     
hmmff....I vaguely remember all of this, but after 9/11, had to stop watching the news and TV for a while as it was just too gross - not the actual attacks but the bumbling media coverage and race to the bottom to be "the first to break the story" of whatever was the revelation du jour.

Anyway, this Dekkers character has had a lot of ink spilled on him over the years. Some by his own doing (if you read even a bit of what is out there he really comes off as a sleaze), and a lot because the media was having a cow over any smidgen of info they could capitalize on at the time.

A quick Google Search brings up all sorts of stories, many written by people who do not appear to be much more trustworth than Dekkers. 

Whatever.

14 Dec 2012 04:26 AM
styckx     
Hmpphhh, yeah. You don't just wake up one day and suddenly realize being a drug mule might be a good career change when the spotlight is on you.. He was probably doing this before 9/11 also.

14 Dec 2012 06:33 AM
fisker    [TotalFark]  
I don't think you guys understand the lengths republicans will go to.

14 Dec 2012 06:41 AM
Bigdogdaddy     
I NEVER feel sorry for anyone who has a fortune and then loses it all. That is not an excuse to do this. He didn't want to change his lifestyle when he lost his business and wife. He could have just found a damn job like the rest of us.

Merry Chrstmas?

14 Dec 2012 06:42 AM
KrispyKritter     
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14 Dec 2012 06:42 AM
Bigdogdaddy     

KrispyKritter: [damox.com image 400x300]


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Very few here were old enough to remember that. He got off though didn't he?

14 Dec 2012 06:43 AM
SkunkWerks     
Worst: You live in a society that enjoys ruining people for even having the most peripheral and unintentional involvement in a global tragedy.

14 Dec 2012 06:44 AM
iron_city_ap     

CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million


Very much THIS. The guy has dirtbag written all over him.

14 Dec 2012 06:49 AM
kradio     
Unlikely: "you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million"

14 Dec 2012 06:49 AM
DubyaHater     
Sorry buddy. You'll never outrun the shadow of 9/11. People will probably line up to piss on your grave.

14 Dec 2012 06:50 AM
OrganLeroy     

CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million


This.

Only way this could happen is if he'd inherited lots of money.

//second career CFI
//keeping day job

14 Dec 2012 06:53 AM
Mock26     
"he lived in a tony, Florida"

Worst. Word. Ever.

14 Dec 2012 06:59 AM
Silly Jesus     
This is what you get for being politically correct. If he'd called them suspicious, he'd have been labeled a racist by left wingers.

14 Dec 2012 07:00 AM
DiosDiablo     

DubyaHater: Sorry buddy. You'll never outrun the shadow of 9/11. People will probably line up to piss on your grave.


I just don't understand the demonizing of everybody associated with the tragedy. Yes, it was terrible. But do people really think that he knew what was going to happen with his trainees? This kind of response encourages more prejudice because everyone is afraid to help out anyone lest they do something terrible via your help.

/it sucked, but just let it go, America
//hates extremist, all kinds

14 Dec 2012 07:03 AM
Onkel Buck     
Twelve million and he lost it all? That's supposed to be good right? I mean he was an evil rich person who didn't deserve any of the wealth he had.

14 Dec 2012 07:04 AM
stellarossa     

homelessdude: hmmff....I vaguely remember all of this, but after 9/11, had to stop watching the news and TV for a while as it was just too gross - not the actual attacks but the bumbling media coverage and race to the bottom to be "the first to break the story" of whatever was the revelation du jour.

Anyway, this Dekkers character has had a lot of ink spilled on him over the years. Some by his own doing (if you read even a bit of what is out there he really comes off as a sleaze), and a lot because the media was having a cow over any smidgen of info they could capitalize on at the time.

A quick Google Search brings up all sorts of stories, many written by people who do not appear to be much more trustworth than Dekkers. 

Whatever.


This. Deckers courted the publicity at first, before it all turned on him. He has a checkered past and is far from a reliable witness to anything. I'd put him in the same group as Mike Vreeland; clearly they knew something about 9/11 and were tangentially involved, but any more than that we can't be sure.

14 Dec 2012 07:05 AM
SkunkWerks     

CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million


iron_city_ap: Very much THIS. The guy has dirtbag written all over him.


kradio: Unlikely: "you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million"


OrganLeroy: Only way this could happen is if he'd inherited lots of money.


The base Salary of an average flight instructor in this country is nearly six figures.

14 Dec 2012 07:05 AM
Millennium     

OrganLeroy: Only way this could happen is if he'd inherited lots of money.


I don't know about that. How many years did he spend training people who (though he may not have known it) were being bankrolled by Osama bin Laden? They could have kept him very well paid, so long as he didn't question too hard as to why...

14 Dec 2012 07:08 AM
SuperDuper28     
Well, in his defense they probably didn't present any warning flags and this was pre-Islamaphobia. Not really accounting for his downward spiral but I guess having your livelyhood ruined would do that to some people.

14 Dec 2012 07:08 AM
neenerist     

Silly Jesus: This is what you get for being politically correct. If he'd called them suspicious, he'd have been labeled a racist by left wingers.


Jeb will fix this for him then. The Reps protect their own.

14 Dec 2012 07:12 AM
Dadoody     
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14 Dec 2012 07:13 AM
qualtrough     

SkunkWerks: Worst: You live in a society that enjoys ruining people for even having the most peripheral and unintentional involvement in a global tragedy.


But if you have a direct link, such as those US military or intelligence officials who completely and utterly failed at their primary duty, maintaining the security of the USA, you not only do not lose your job, you get promoted.

14 Dec 2012 07:15 AM
Wodan11     
There's no doubt this guy is a scumbag. However, from TFA I don't think they caught him with any actual drugs. It was a sting operation; they caught him with their planted drugs. And the reason they did that was because he told their undercover, who approached him with a job offer, that he had flown drugs before with no problems. I can easily see that being a lie in order to get the work. He was clearly desperate for income.  I just wonder how much evidence they have of actual crimes he did.

14 Dec 2012 07:22 AM
stellarossa     

qualtrough: SkunkWerks: Worst: You live in a society that enjoys ruining people for even having the most peripheral and unintentional involvement in a global tragedy.

But if you have a direct link, such as those US military or intelligence officials who completely and utterly failed at their primary duty, maintaining the security of the USA, you not only do not lose your job, you get promoted.


Deckers played hard & fast with the truth and that got him into trouble. He made shiat up, he claimed certain things happened, he denied other things that clearly did happen. In short, it's easy to see why he was a person of interest, even if the FBI got to Huffman Aviation very quickly. Very quickly.

14 Dec 2012 07:22 AM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  
Net worth of $12M is probably below the median for a business like that. I'm not sure some of you know what is the meaning of the term and what is included in that figure.

14 Dec 2012 07:25 AM
I sound fat     

CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million


Well, its not so suspicious if you are a drug mule with ties to known terrorists...

14 Dec 2012 07:28 AM
Carth     
It is pretty easy to make a small fortune as a CFI. The trick is to start with a large fortune.

14 Dec 2012 07:30 AM
I sound fat     

Bigdogdaddy: Silly Jesus: This is what you get for being politically correct. If he'd called them suspicious, he'd have been labeled a racist by left wingers.

Do you ever get tired of spouting bullcrap? I mean, come on man, you can't be that daft.


yeah, its easy to sit back with perfect hindsight and say "NO WAY, there is no WAY a good leftie like me would claim racism for ratting out the 9/11 hijackers for being suspicious", except for... well, they average person would have. They would have at least THOUGHT it. Whats worse, even MORE people would have thought it AFTER 9/11.

14 Dec 2012 07:30 AM
petec     

SkunkWerks: CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million

iron_city_ap: Very much THIS. The guy has dirtbag written all over him.

kradio: Unlikely: "you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million"

OrganLeroy: Only way this could happen is if he'd inherited lots of money.

The base Salary of an average flight instructor in this country is nearly six figures.


only in the sense it's probably 5 figures, I'd be suprised if they gross over 40K

14 Dec 2012 07:30 AM
Honest Bender     
It's all well and good to hate this guy for training those crazy people to pilot the planes. But the real criminals are as yet unpunished! The workers who assembled those planes haven't spent even a minute inside a jail cell. THAT'S NOT RIGHT!

14 Dec 2012 07:35 AM
SkunkWerks     

stellarossa: Deckers played hard & fast with the truth and that got him into trouble. He made shiat up, he claimed certain things happened, he denied other things that clearly did happen.


In what way is that unlike what a lot of folks in politics and military intelligence were up to during and even months or years after 9/11?

I dunno. I honestly never looked into how "suspicious" this guy really was. But I'd still wager if he had any real idea what was going to come of it, he probably wouldn't have associated with them. They'd have found someone else and we'd be reading about some other schmuck whose life was ruined by it.

You don't have to be an angel in order to not be a devil. And you also don't have to have malicious intent to start playing it free and loose with the truth when you're under that kind of scrutiny.

14 Dec 2012 07:36 AM
gadian     

SkunkWerks: The base Salary of an average flight instructor in this country is nearly six figures.


Really? My flight instructor charged $30 a lesson and most of that was a fuel charge. I don't see these guys making huge balls of money unless they're a contractor or trainer for a corporation or something.

14 Dec 2012 07:37 AM
SkunkWerks     

petec: only in the sense it's probably 5 figures


90,000+. Keep trying though.

14 Dec 2012 07:38 AM
Harry Freakstorm     
After his arrest, a judge ordered Dekkers to remain in custody pending trial, noting that he is a citizen of the Netherlands without legal status in the U.S.

When did he become an illegal alien?

14 Dec 2012 07:44 AM
SkunkWerks     

Harry Freakstorm: After his arrest, a judge ordered Dekkers to remain in custody pending trial, noting that he is a citizen of the Netherlands without legal status in the U.S.

When did he become an illegal alien?


I'm guessing it's when this happened:

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14 Dec 2012 07:49 AM
neenerist     

SkunkWerks: petec: only in the sense it's probably 5 figures

90,000+. Keep trying though.


Net that's $12M in a quick 133 years.

14 Dec 2012 07:49 AM
here to help     
I see the Storm Front meeting started early this morning.

14 Dec 2012 07:51 AM
Frothy Panties     

Mock26: "he lived in a tony, Florida"

Worst. Word. Ever.


What the hell does that even mean?

14 Dec 2012 07:51 AM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  
This thread wreaks of poor people.

14 Dec 2012 07:53 AM
SkunkWerks     

neenerist: SkunkWerks: petec: only in the sense it's probably 5 figures

90,000+. Keep trying though.

Net that's $12M in a quick 133 years.


Cause- if you have surplus cash lying around- there's certainly no way to make that work for you. None at all.

In other news, the guy ran a flight school, did he not? Not that we'd want to take into account being the owner of a lucrative business- the sort of business that tends to attract clients who also have some amount of disposable income- into this whole "zOMG Flight Instructor is just liek flipping burgers at McDonalds!" silliness, now would we?

14 Dec 2012 07:54 AM
KellyKellyKelly     

Frothy Panties: Mock26: "he lived in a tony, Florida"

Worst. Word. Ever.

What the hell does that even mean?


ton·y
/ˈtōnē/
Adjective
Fashionable among wealthy or stylish people: "a tony restaurant".

14 Dec 2012 07:57 AM
Bruce the Deuce     
Six figures for flight instructing? Low fives in a good year.

14 Dec 2012 07:59 AM
SkunkWerks     

Bruce the Deuce: Six figures for flight instructing?


Don't look at me. Google it if you like. My Father-In-Law is a pilot and deals with those folk pretty regularly. Honestly a near-six figures doesn't surprise me much. It's not like the typical burger-flipper suddenly decides he's got a few thousand lying around that he doesn't need and decides to pursue that daydream he had the other day of becoming a licensed pilot.

Bruce the Deuce: Low fives in a good year.


Work harder?

14 Dec 2012 08:03 AM
ChrisDe     
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14 Dec 2012 08:03 AM
weave     
He should have just moved to Belize with that money.

14 Dec 2012 08:03 AM
abhorrent1     
he is a citizen of the Netherlands without legal status in the U.S.

1.Come to America Illegally
2.Start a Business
3.???
4.Profit!

14 Dec 2012 08:15 AM
inglixthemad     

OrganLeroy: CruiserTwelve: Good Suspicious: you're a flight instructor with a net worth of $12 million

This.

Only way this could happen is if he'd inherited lots of money.

//second career CFI
//keeping day job


Well, if he built up his own flight school, and you're counting the airplanes (and probably something else l, like charter) he might have a net worth like that. I mean, I know not many schools use "new" planes, but if he had a couple of late model 172S, an Arrow III or two, a couple of sims, and a turboprop for training / currency / rent his FBO could have been worth 12 million easy.

/even fuel trucks aren't cheap
//don't know the guy's story
///pilot

14 Dec 2012 08:16 AM
orbister     
FTFA: The complaint against Dekkers alleges he admitted to an undercover Homeland Security Investigations agent that he ferried drugs and cash in private aircraft in exchange for payment.

Was the CIA employing him?

14 Dec 2012 08:18 AM
Publikwerks     
I don't blame him for training the 9/11 terrorists. And losing it all is a bummer, but becoming a drug mule negates me giving a shiat.

14 Dec 2012 08:20 AM
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