| Shooter of Webster NY Firemen identified, it was a 62 year old white male previously jailed for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer. Pro and anti hammer comments to the right |
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| vpb It's good that we have guns to keep people like that away from hammers. |
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| St_Francis_P In later statements to police, Spengler admitted he'd hit his legally blind grandmother several times with the handle of a hammer during a violent argument over her going into the basement, where he'd warned her not to go for her own safety. Nice. Out of concern for her safety, he kills her. On the positive side, I imagine he could explain the drug laws to us. And I blame that old "If I had a Hammer" song. It was only a matter of time. |
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| GAT_00
Sure am glad he was allowed to buy/keep his gun, depending on when the gun purchase happened. |
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| stratagos
Every school needs to be protected by a licensed carpenter. Or, you know, Jesus - he was a carpenter, right? |
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| MaudlinMutantMollusk I'll bet that left a bad impression |
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| Wanebo Hammer don't hurt em. /obligatory |
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| Diogenes RsTFA So....is he in custody? Dead? WTF? |
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| Elandriel When all you have is a hammer... |
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Eddie Adams from Torrance |
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| Coco LaFemme
He beat his grandmother to death with a hammer. Why wasn't he still in prison? |
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| NewportBarGuy |
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| Nina_Hartley's_Ass
Apparently, his grandmother tried to touch it. |
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| AlwaysRightBoy Diogenes: RsTFA So....is he in custody? Dead? WTF? I read in another article that he's is dead. Probably from his guns hammer. |
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| AbbeySomeone
St_Francis_P: In later statements to police, Spengler admitted he'd hit his legally blind grandmother several times with the handle of a hammer during a violent argument over her going into the basement, where he'd warned her not to go for her own safety. Nice. Out of concern for her safety, he kills her. On the positive side, I imagine he could explain the drug laws to us. And I blame that old "If I had a Hammer" song. It was only a matter of time. Dammit, thanks for the earworm. |
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| BSABSVR
It's hammer Ow! Hammer Grandma's hammer Claw hammer now granny's gone away. |
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| Jon H
She is lucky for not going into the basement, bad things happen down /slashies! |
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| Nina_Hartley's_Ass
And what law-abiding citizen did he get his gun from? |
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| optimistic_cynic I'm sure his grandmother was just an actress, it's quite obvious he only did this to further the agenda of the rand corporation and reverse vampires. |
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| cretinbob
Diogenes: RsTFA So....is he in custody? Dead? WTF? Self inflicted gunshot wound to the head //should have gotten the death penalty after he beat his grandmother to death |
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| Diogenes AlwaysRightBoy & cretinbob: Thanks. I could have found it if I looked. Just seemed like a good detail for this article to carry. No loss to the world there, to be sure. |
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L.D. Ablo |
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| Theaetetus Was his name Maxwell? |
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| maxalt He should have never got out of rape central. |
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| fusillade762 I'm trying to work out a nail gun joke but nothing's gelling. Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Apparently, his grandmother tried to touch it. And by "hammer" you mean "penis", right? |
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| Amos Quito
GAT_00: Sure am glad he was allowed to buy/keep his gun, depending on when the gun purchase happened. Yeah, I'm sure he bought it - all nice and legal. |
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Mike_LowELL ![]() But video games don't cause violence. Got it. |
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| basemetal Should have stuck a needle in his arm the first go round. |
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| BronyMedic
Coco LaFemme: He beat his grandmother to death with a hammer. Why wasn't he still in prison? They have to make room for all the people busted with a few ounces of pot. |
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| fusillade762 |
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ultraholland
![]() the right to bear hammer-hands |
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| Therion How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."? |
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| FriarReb98 Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."? I don't get this either. It's something we've always done as a culture - hell, since Cain killed Abel we've known whodunit. We only glorify the fallen if they're important enough to. |
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| SarahDiddle I just want to say I am pro-hammer. /but anti-skub |
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| munko what about nails? |
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| sno man Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."? The notoriety they get to fap to after they're dead? That notoriety? |
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| Peter von Nostrand When I first got on we carried bullet-proof vests. They were out of dates ones shiat canned by PD. I never put one on and can't say I ever saw anyone put one on. We've changed our staging policy now and usually won't go in until PD clears the scene. Of course, there generally isn't a reason to stage if you're the first on engine or truck to a reported structure fire |
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| NewportBarGuy |
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| Kumana Wanalaia
Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."? What makes you think they did it for fame? Ever heard of this thing called anger? |
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Apos
![]() is unamused. |
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gwenners
![]() /hot, like a fire |
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| Gyrfalcon
Diogenes: RsTFA So....is he in custody? Dead? WTF? FTFA, 3d paragraph:Police found William H. Spengler Jr. dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head around 11 a.m. Tuesday near 191 Lake Road, the home where he had lit a fire then set the deadly trap for first responders. Killed himself at the scene. |
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| YouPeopleAreCrazy
Police found William H. Spengler Jr. dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head around 11 a.m. Tuesday near 191 Lake Road, the home where he had lit a fire then set the deadly trap for first responders. Are we channeling from the future? /i have relatives in that area |
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| Riotboy
Too many guns. |
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| the_vegetarian_cannibal
relevant |
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| Circusdog320 Debate will rage... massacres will continue |
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| Maul555
My thoughts about hammer control remain unchanged in the wake of this disaster. /ouch the stones! they hurt! |
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| stirfrybry
NewportBarGuy: Coco LaFemme: Why wasn't he still in prison? Obviously he was rehabilitated. Duh! Prison FTW! |
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| Keizer_Ghidorah
Mike_LowELL: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x175] But video games don't cause violence. Got it. If they did, I'd have been jailed long ago for jumping on turtles and throwing them at people. |
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