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   Shooter of Webster NY Firemen identified, it was a 62 year old white male previously jailed for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer. Pro and anti hammer comments to the right

24 Dec 2012 06:27 PM   |   5688 clicks   |   Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
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vpb    [TotalFark]  
It's good that we have guns to keep people like that away from hammers.

24 Dec 2012 03:05 PM
St_Francis_P     
In later statements to police, Spengler admitted he'd hit his legally blind grandmother several times with the handle of a hammer during a violent argument over her going into the basement, where he'd warned her not to go for her own safety.

Nice. Out of concern for her safety, he kills her. On the positive side, I imagine he could explain the drug laws to us.

And I blame that old "If I had a Hammer" song. It was only a matter of time.

24 Dec 2012 03:08 PM
GAT_00     
Sure am glad he was allowed to buy/keep his gun, depending on when the gun purchase happened.

24 Dec 2012 03:16 PM
stratagos     
Every school needs to be protected by a licensed carpenter.

Or, you know, Jesus - he was a carpenter, right?

24 Dec 2012 03:17 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  
I'll bet that left a bad impression

24 Dec 2012 03:30 PM
Wanebo    [TotalFark]  
Hammer don't hurt em.

/obligatory

24 Dec 2012 03:30 PM
Diogenes    [TotalFark]  
RsTFA

So....is he in custody?  Dead?  WTF?

24 Dec 2012 03:36 PM
Elandriel     
When all you have is a hammer...

24 Dec 2012 03:43 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance    [TotalFark]  
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24 Dec 2012 03:43 PM
Coco LaFemme     
He beat his grandmother to death with a hammer.

Why wasn't he still in prison?

24 Dec 2012 03:54 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  
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24 Dec 2012 03:55 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass     
Apparently, his grandmother tried to touch it.

24 Dec 2012 03:55 PM
AlwaysRightBoy    [TotalFark]  

Diogenes: RsTFA

So....is he in custody?  Dead?  WTF?


I read in another article that he's is dead. Probably from his guns hammer.

24 Dec 2012 03:56 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  

Coco LaFemme: Why wasn't he still in prison?


Obviously he was rehabilitated. Duh!

24 Dec 2012 03:57 PM
AbbeySomeone     

St_Francis_P: In later statements to police, Spengler admitted he'd hit his legally blind grandmother several times with the handle of a hammer during a violent argument over her going into the basement, where he'd warned her not to go for her own safety.

Nice. Out of concern for her safety, he kills her. On the positive side, I imagine he could explain the drug laws to us.

And I blame that old "If I had a Hammer" song. It was only a matter of time.


Dammit, thanks for the earworm.

24 Dec 2012 03:57 PM
BSABSVR     
It's hammer
Ow! Hammer
Grandma's hammer
Claw hammer
now granny's gone away.

24 Dec 2012 03:57 PM
Jon H     
She is lucky for not going into the basement, bad things happen down here there.

/slashies!

24 Dec 2012 04:00 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass     
And what law-abiding citizen did he get his gun from?

24 Dec 2012 04:03 PM
optimistic_cynic     
I'm sure his grandmother was just an actress, it's quite obvious he only did this to further the agenda of the rand corporation and reverse vampires.

24 Dec 2012 04:11 PM
cretinbob    [TotalFark]  

Diogenes: RsTFA

So....is he in custody?  Dead?  WTF?


Self inflicted gunshot wound to the head

//should have gotten the death penalty after he beat his grandmother to death

24 Dec 2012 04:11 PM
Diogenes    [TotalFark]  
AlwaysRightBoy &  cretinbob: Thanks.  I could have found it if I looked.  Just seemed like a good detail for this article to carry.

No loss to the world there, to be sure.

24 Dec 2012 04:19 PM
cretinbob    [TotalFark]  

Jon H: She is lucky for not going into the basement, bad things happen down here there.

/slashies!


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24 Dec 2012 04:19 PM
L.D. Ablo    [TotalFark]  
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24 Dec 2012 04:45 PM
Theaetetus    [TotalFark]  
Was his name Maxwell?

24 Dec 2012 04:45 PM
maxalt    [TotalFark]  
He should have never got out of rape central.

24 Dec 2012 05:00 PM
fusillade762     
I'm trying to work out a nail gun joke but nothing's gelling.


Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Apparently, his grandmother tried to touch it.


And by "hammer" you mean "penis", right?

24 Dec 2012 05:07 PM
Amos Quito     

GAT_00: Sure am glad he was allowed to buy/keep his gun, depending on when the gun purchase happened.


Yeah, I'm sure he bought it - all nice and legal.


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24 Dec 2012 05:09 PM
Mike_LowELL    [TotalFark]  
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But video games don't cause violence.  Got it.

24 Dec 2012 05:10 PM
basemetal    [TotalFark]  
Should have stuck a needle in his arm the first go round.

24 Dec 2012 05:18 PM
BronyMedic     

Coco LaFemme: He beat his grandmother to death with a hammer.

Why wasn't he still in prison?


They have to make room for all the people busted with a few ounces of pot.

24 Dec 2012 05:23 PM
fusillade762     

Mike_LowELL: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x175]

But video games don't cause violence.  Got it.


Nice.

24 Dec 2012 05:23 PM
ultraholland    [TotalFark]  
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the right to bear hammer-hands

24 Dec 2012 05:29 PM
Therion    [TotalFark]  
How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."?

24 Dec 2012 05:35 PM
FriarReb98    [TotalFark]  

Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."?


I don't get this either.  It's something we've always done as a culture - hell, since Cain killed Abel we've known whodunit.  We only glorify the fallen if they're important enough to.

24 Dec 2012 05:41 PM
SarahDiddle     
I just want to say I am pro-hammer.

/but anti-skub

24 Dec 2012 05:58 PM
munko    [TotalFark]  
what about nails?

24 Dec 2012 06:16 PM
sno man    [TotalFark]  

Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."?


The notoriety they get to fap to after they're dead? That notoriety?

24 Dec 2012 06:16 PM
Peter von Nostrand    [TotalFark]  
When I first got on we carried bullet-proof vests. They were out of dates ones shiat canned by PD. I never put one on and can't say I ever saw anyone put one on. We've changed our staging policy now and usually won't go in until PD clears the scene. Of course, there generally isn't a reason to stage if you're the first on engine or truck to a reported structure fire

24 Dec 2012 06:29 PM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  

munko: what about nails?


He's not really available for comment right now:

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24 Dec 2012 06:30 PM
Kumana Wanalaia     

Therion: How about we stop publishing their names and giving these farking assholes the publicity/notoriety they crave; and have all news media refer to shooters as "the farking asshole who ..."?


What makes you think they did it for fame?

Ever heard of this thing called anger?

24 Dec 2012 06:30 PM
Apos     
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is unamused.

24 Dec 2012 06:31 PM
gwenners     
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/hot, like a fire

24 Dec 2012 06:31 PM
Gyrfalcon    [TotalFark]  

Diogenes: RsTFA

So....is he in custody?  Dead?  WTF?


FTFA, 3d paragraph:Police found William H. Spengler Jr. dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head around 11 a.m. Tuesday near 191 Lake Road, the home where he had lit a fire then set the deadly trap for first responders.

Killed himself at the scene.

24 Dec 2012 06:31 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy     
Police found William H. Spengler Jr. dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head around 11 a.m. Tuesday near 191 Lake Road, the home where he had lit a fire then set the deadly trap for first responders.

Are we channeling from the future?

/i have relatives in that area

24 Dec 2012 06:32 PM
Riotboy     
Too many guns.

24 Dec 2012 06:32 PM
the_vegetarian_cannibal     
relevant

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24 Dec 2012 06:33 PM
Circusdog320    [TotalFark]  
Debate will rage... massacres will continue

24 Dec 2012 06:33 PM
Maul555     
My thoughts about hammer control remain unchanged in the wake of this disaster.

/ouch the stones! they hurt!

24 Dec 2012 06:34 PM
stirfrybry     

NewportBarGuy: Coco LaFemme: Why wasn't he still in prison?

Obviously he was rehabilitated. Duh!


Prison FTW!

24 Dec 2012 06:35 PM
Keizer_Ghidorah     

Mike_LowELL: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x175]

But video games don't cause violence.  Got it.


If they did, I'd have been jailed long ago for jumping on turtles and throwing them at people.

24 Dec 2012 06:36 PM
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