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   You know you're a hard core Christian if you refuse to celebrate Christmas because it's rooted in Pagan traditions. "It is only sinners like Pharaoh and Herod who make great rejoicings over the day"

24 Dec 2012 08:54 PM   |   5361 clicks   |   Kansas.com
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OtherLittleGuy    [TotalFark]  
Same types go batshait overboard crazy with Good Friday and gloss over two days later.

24 Dec 2012 07:25 PM
fusillade762     
Meh. The Puritans called, they want their outrage back.

24 Dec 2012 07:36 PM
reported    [TotalFark]  
I have an idea for a holiday comedy special... hard-core Christians form an unlikely alliance with hard-core atheists and start a real "War on Christmas™".  Many wacky hijinks and much hilarity ensues.

24 Dec 2012 07:42 PM
trivial use of my dark powers     
I bet these people are a ball to hang out with.

24 Dec 2012 08:08 PM
Lumpmoose     
You mean hanging objects from an evergreen tree on the solstice and celebrating a fertile rabbit on the Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox aren't Christian?

24 Dec 2012 08:13 PM
simplicimus     
Jeez, get over it. Christmas is Festivus, Easter is the celebration of the fertility goddess Ostra. Just because Christianity co-opted pagan festivals doesn't diminish the symbolic value.

24 Dec 2012 08:17 PM
Lumpmoose     

simplicimus: Jeez, get over it. Christmas is Festivus, Easter is the celebration of the fertility goddess Ostra. Just because Christianity co-opted pagan festivals doesn't diminish the symbolic value.


Maybe, but the theocratic culture and laws that political Christians try to impose on us make the obvious Pagan connections really funny.

24 Dec 2012 08:28 PM
LandStander    [TotalFark]  
fta- the Bible offers little help in resolving the question



Well, that's a surprise.

24 Dec 2012 08:46 PM
BravadoGT    [TotalFark]  
I'm no Christian, but I still found the article pretty interesting.

24 Dec 2012 08:47 PM
Ex_Parrot     
Meta war on Christmas.

24 Dec 2012 08:55 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     
Atheists. Again.

24 Dec 2012 08:56 PM
phrawgh     
You know you're a hard core true Christian if you refuse to celebrate Christmas because it's rooted in Pagan traditions. "It is only sinners like Pharaoh and Herod who make great rejoicings over the day"

It may not be popular but at least (in this case) they are following the owners manual. After all, if you do not follow the rules, what's the point in claiming to be Christian?

/FTFY

24 Dec 2012 08:57 PM
Indubitably     
I wish a Merry Christmas for those folks who recognize that this is a time of honoring and gratitude for what is.

I wish a Merry Mind for the restivus.

*)

24 Dec 2012 08:57 PM
Gyrfalcon     

trivial use of my dark powers: I bet these people are a ball to hang out with.


I'd need at least a morning star to hang with them.

24 Dec 2012 08:57 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     

Ex_Parrot: Meta war on Christmas.


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Of course, she's Hindu.

24 Dec 2012 08:57 PM
MBooda     
Hey, I celebrate He who was born of a virgin on Dec. 25.
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24 Dec 2012 08:58 PM
mittromneysdog     
Jeremiah 10:1-4

This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter."

24 Dec 2012 08:58 PM
Indubitably     

Ex_Parrot: Meta war on Christmas.


Fark Rye For Many Whores: Atheists. Again.


Raise your useless shields against nothing again, friend, as your ilk reap billions...*)

24 Dec 2012 08:58 PM
Indubitably     

MBooda: Hey, I celebrate He who was born of a virgin on Dec. 25.
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To pagan

24 Dec 2012 09:00 PM
lordjupiter     
It's like watching two nerds argue over whose fan-fic is more real.

24 Dec 2012 09:00 PM
Indubitably     

lordjupiter: It's like watching two nerds argue over whose fan-fic is more real.


No, it isn't, for people die over these facts everyday, no?

24 Dec 2012 09:01 PM
God Is My Co-Pirate     

simplicimus: Jeez, get over it. Christmas is Festivus, Easter is the celebration of the fertility goddess Ostra. Just because Christianity co-opted pagan festivals doesn't diminish the symbolic value.


My Latin prof refused to call it Easter because of the pagan Oestra connotations. We had to call it "the Paschal season."

24 Dec 2012 09:03 PM
alienated     

Gyrfalcon: trivial use of my dark powers: I bet these people are a ball to hang out with.

I'd need at least a morning star to hang with them.


well played.

24 Dec 2012 09:05 PM
lordjupiter     

Indubitably: lordjupiter: It's like watching two nerds argue over whose fan-fic is more real.

No, it isn't, for people die over these facts everyday, no?


Are you saying nerds aren't dangerous?

24 Dec 2012 09:06 PM
Indubitably     

lordjupiter: Indubitably: lordjupiter: It's like watching two nerds argue over whose fan-fic is more real.

No, it isn't, for people die over these facts everyday, no?

Are you saying nerds aren't dangerous?


Nope.

24 Dec 2012 09:07 PM
ArcadianRefugee     
How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

24 Dec 2012 09:10 PM
Coco LaFemme     

ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?


Damn, you beat me to it.  Where do you think early Christianity got the idea for all this shiat?  They had to steal it from somewhere, and since the pagans were the only ones around.......

24 Dec 2012 09:12 PM
Plant Rights Activist     
You know you're a hard core corp Christian if you refuse to celebrate Christmas because it's rooted in Pagan traditions.

/pet peave

24 Dec 2012 09:12 PM
lordjupiter     

Plant Rights Activist: You know you're a hard core corp Christian if you refuse to celebrate Christmas because it's rooted in Pagan traditions.

/pet peave


1/10?

24 Dec 2012 09:13 PM
simplicimus     

ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?


In the OT, probably a lot. NT is a shift. Paul is just sucking up to the Romans and establishing trade routes. John is just crazy rants against Nero.

24 Dec 2012 09:18 PM
lordjupiter     

ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?


Um, monotheism?

24 Dec 2012 09:21 PM
ArcadianRefugee     

simplicimus: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

In the OT, probably a lot. NT is a shift. Paul is just sucking up to the Romans and establishing trade routes. John is just crazy rants against Nero.


Well, except the whole Jesus thing, which wasn't exactly unique either.

24 Dec 2012 09:23 PM
simplicimus     

lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?


Um, God's wife (until King David)?

24 Dec 2012 09:23 PM
ArcadianRefugee     

lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?


That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

24 Dec 2012 09:25 PM
fireclown     
I have a coworker who does this. The idea is that jesus should be celebrated each and every day. Its kind of weird, but its his religious thing, not
mine.

24 Dec 2012 09:25 PM
theMagni    [TotalFark]  

reported: I have an idea for a holiday comedy special... hard-core Christians form an unlikely alliance with hard-core atheists and start a real "War on Christmas™".  Many wacky hijinks and much hilarity ensues.


I'm in. Can we drink?

24 Dec 2012 09:26 PM
minoridiot     
But even to some Christians, Christmas has always seemed like a version of a pagan feast - and therefore unworthy of observance.

Growing up my parents did not celebrate Christmas for this very reason. In fact, they would pull us from school if the class was having any sort of holiday party. Even today, my parents refuse to go into any place of business displaying a Christmas tree.

24 Dec 2012 09:27 PM
Bit'O'Gristle     
Well, since they stole the idea anyway, and they seem to just change the rules based on whim or whatever, isn't the whole thing ridiculous? Religion as a whole that is. Don't they just make up whatever serves their political ideology?

24 Dec 2012 09:29 PM
lordjupiter     

ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."


Not sure if serious.

24 Dec 2012 09:34 PM
simplicimus     

lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

Not sure if serious.


Serious. Baal was the main competition.

24 Dec 2012 09:37 PM
Krymson Tyde     

lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

Not sure if serious.


Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'"

Genesis 3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like one of us...'"

24 Dec 2012 09:39 PM
mat catastrophe     
Is this another story about Gary Gygax?

24 Dec 2012 09:41 PM
lordjupiter     

simplicimus: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

Not sure if serious.

Serious. Baal was the main competition.


I know that.  But everyone knows Abrahamic Christianity is monotheistic, regardless of what non-believers were doing at the time.  So monotheism couldn't have been stolen from paganism, which is the worship of many gods, by definition.  Their monotheism was partly a reaction to the paganism of the time.

Other than that, it was a farking joke.  Jesus.

24 Dec 2012 09:41 PM
olddinosaur     
When the original Christians tried to convert the Germanic pagans, they found it mighty rough going. In that religion, anyone who dies in battle is carried off to Valhalla by beautiful winged women called "Valkyries" while anyone who died in bed---"The Straw Death" as they called it---was doomed to wander forever in the frozen wasteland of Hel. That is why the phrase: "--colder than hell--" prevails today.

They found it easier to modify the dogma, rather than try to wage war against people who liked to go down the hard way, and take a lot of others with them. Hence the similarity between modern Christianity and old Germanic paganism.

Heilsa Odin!

24 Dec 2012 09:42 PM
Indubitably     
To float.

24 Dec 2012 09:42 PM
lordjupiter     

Krymson Tyde: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

Not sure if serious.

Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'"

Genesis 3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like one of us...'"



Angels, dude.

Not that I believe any of that stuff literally, but if we're talking about theories...definitely aliens.

24 Dec 2012 09:42 PM
foxyshadis     

mittromneysdog: Jeremiah 10:1-4

This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter."


lern2read, the passage was about idolatry, not Christmas trees, which didn't appear until the 1500s. Before then, pagans would Festivus themselves around a tree and each other, not cut down and display a tree.

Don't take your Christian memes from your crazy aunt's Facebook posts, please, for the sake of humanity's sanity.

24 Dec 2012 09:43 PM
IlGreven     
Funny he should mention Herod, because master debater and Christian apologist William Lane Craig said that the Sandy Hook massacre is just another reminder of the reason for the season. Much like the BBC did with Wayne LaPierre, I present his views with a disclaimer that this is not a parody, and that these are the views of William Lane Craig, who calls his particular brand of apologetics "Reasonable Faith".

24 Dec 2012 09:43 PM
doglover    [TotalFark]  

Indubitably: To float.


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24 Dec 2012 09:44 PM
Krymson Tyde     

lordjupiter: Krymson Tyde: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: lordjupiter: ArcadianRefugee: How many Christian beliefs aren't originally pagan?

Um, monotheism?

That's silly. The bible doesn't say He is the only god, just that he should be #1 on in people's lives.

"I am the Lord your God, You shall have no other gods before me."

Notice it isn't

"I am the Lord your God; there are no other gods."

Not sure if serious.

Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'"

Genesis 3:22 states, "And the LORD God said, 'The man has now become like one of us...'"


Angels, dude.

Not that I believe any of that stuff literally, but if we're talking about theories...definitely aliens.


I have a hypothesis with absolutely no evidence to back it up: Angels were Judaism's way of incorporating the multiple gods into the one big guy.

24 Dec 2012 09:47 PM
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