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AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  
Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

25 Dec 2012 12:04 AM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim


Injured. Not killed, even.

25 Dec 2012 12:10 AM
SnarfVader     

AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.


Not "any" other weapon, but access to planes is well regulated.

25 Dec 2012 12:11 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

SnarfVader: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Not "any" other weapon, but access to planes is well regulated.


Touché

25 Dec 2012 12:19 AM
Elzar     

fusillade762: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Injured. Not killed, even.

if the woman had been packing heat, there would have been zero injuries... This is what a country gets when thy give up their right to bare arms. Thanks a lot obummer...

25 Dec 2012 12:36 AM
EatenTheSun    [TotalFark]  

Elzar: This is what a country gets when thy give up their right to bare arms.


I've got bare arms right now! Come at me bro!

25 Dec 2012 12:54 AM
Triumph    [TotalFark]  
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In a monarchy, this is the limit of allowable technology in private hands. Doesn't matter whether you're the monarch of North Korea or Britain; the peasantry needs to be kept as defenseless as possible.

25 Dec 2012 01:12 AM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  

AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.


Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.

25 Dec 2012 01:37 AM
KrispyKritter     
ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

25 Dec 2012 02:04 AM
ArcadianRefugee     
Since when is a gas mask a weapon ?

25 Dec 2012 02:04 AM
phrawgh     

AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.


We prefer our attacks supersized, with cheese.

25 Dec 2012 02:04 AM
LaBlueSkuld     

feckingmorons: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.


They did make the crimes heck of a lot easier to accomplish, though.

25 Dec 2012 02:05 AM
Raw_fishFood     
Maybe if he didn't have a shiatty piece of Chinese stainless steel he might have done more.

Not that doing more would have a good thing. I'm just saying he had a terrible mail order sword.

25 Dec 2012 02:06 AM
12349876     

feckingmorons: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.


violence:crashing::sword:bike::gun:re gional jet

25 Dec 2012 02:06 AM
kmmontandon     

feckingmorons: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.



Therefor, no one convicted of a DUI should have their driver's license suspended.

After all, the car didn't commit the crime.

25 Dec 2012 02:08 AM
silverjets     

KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.


Well in all fairness to the gun-obsessed culture of the US, humans ARE animals.


/Just sayin'

25 Dec 2012 02:09 AM
TheyCallMeC0WB0Y     

KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.


Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
Noah Webster

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

25 Dec 2012 02:09 AM
phrawgh     

kmmontandon: feckingmorons: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.


Therefor, no one convicted of a DUI should have their driver's license suspended.

After all, the car didn't commit the crime.


Driving is a privilege, not a right.

25 Dec 2012 02:11 AM
Flappyhead     

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
Noah Webster

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson


Obama isn't coming to have sex with your wife, calm down.

25 Dec 2012 02:12 AM
BeSerious     

Triumph: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x422]

In a monarchy, this is the limit of allowable technology in private hands. Doesn't matter whether you're the monarch of North Korea or Britain; the peasantry needs to be kept as defenseless as possible.


Oh, like your guns will protect you from what this government has.

Good call.

25 Dec 2012 02:13 AM
Ready-set     

fusillade762: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Injured. Not killed, even.


Really? Do you guys know what IED means? Anyone can build a bomb with a trip to Home Depot and $20.

And if the FBI is watching: God bless America.

Outlaw something that already exists and you get a black market where only the worst have access.

Not unlike abortion. It's sad and awful. And it has to stay legal and safe. Good people shouldn't lose rights because of the dregs. And if it isn't obvious, I'm pro-choice because women deserve the right.

25 Dec 2012 02:14 AM
12349876     

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.


And guns aren't going to do a damn thing about it. If a government is bent on killing its own civilians in mass numbers, there's fighter jets and nukes and mustard gas and submarines and aircraft carriers etc. etc. etc.

25 Dec 2012 02:14 AM
JSam21     

kmmontandon: feckingmorons: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - 26 victims

I don't know how you can reconcile the fact that guns are far more lethal on a per-incident basis than any other weapon.

Yet neither the gun nor the sword committed these crimes.


Therefor, no one convicted of a DUI should have their driver's license suspended.

After all, the car didn't commit the crime.


Correct but you also don't need a license to purchase a car only to legally operate. And a suspended license doesn't forfeit the vehicle just means you can't legally operate it. And if a car didnt have a driver it would just sit there... just like a gun. So your line of reasoning makes no sense.

25 Dec 2012 02:14 AM
Mrtraveler01     

12349876: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

And guns aren't going to do a damn thing about it. If a government is bent on killing its own civilians in mass numbers, there's fighter jets and nukes and mustard gas and submarines and aircraft carriers etc. etc. etc.


Yes, but we can't ruin his little fantasies now can we?

25 Dec 2012 02:15 AM
Lernaeus     

ArcadianRefugee: Since when is a gas mask a weapon ?


Well, if you put a scope and a folding stock on it ...

25 Dec 2012 02:15 AM
xant     

Flappyhead: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
Noah Webster

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

Obama isn't coming to have sex with your wife, calm down.


I don't care if he is the president, I'm gonna finish, first.

25 Dec 2012 02:15 AM
meatofmystery     
Seasons greetings, C*ntmitter.

25 Dec 2012 02:16 AM
JSam21     

12349876: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

And guns aren't going to do a damn thing about it. If a government is bent on killing its own civilians in mass numbers, there's fighter jets and nukes and mustard gas and submarines and aircraft carriers etc. etc. etc.


But it gives you a chance to at least fight. Look at Lybia...

25 Dec 2012 02:16 AM
Mrtraveler01     

fusillade762: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Injured. Not killed, even.


Done in two.

This is as stupid as the folks saying "Hey look, 12 people got stabbed in China but lived...that's why we shouldn't have any gun regulations".

25 Dec 2012 02:16 AM
sirbissel     

Flappyhead: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
Noah Webster

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

Obama isn't coming to have sex with your wife, calm down.


Afterwards, however...

25 Dec 2012 02:17 AM
kmmontandon     

phrawgh:
Driving is a privilege, not a right.



So is voting, but last I checked, there were some pretty hefty restrictions on exercising that right.

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.


The Second Amendment was written in a time when hastily summoned militias had a hope of weapons parity and training with regular soldiery. That time has long passed. As has the time when we have to worry about a foreign power restricting our rights - we aren't a colony any more.

25 Dec 2012 02:17 AM
Mrtraveler01     

JSam21: Look at Lybia...


Yes please!

/Oh wait...I misread that

25 Dec 2012 02:18 AM
TheyCallMeC0WB0Y     

12349876: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

And guns aren't going to do a damn thing about it. If a government is bent on killing its own civilians in mass numbers, there's fighter jets and nukes and mustard gas and submarines and aircraft carriers etc. etc. etc.


You think the US is going to nuke itself?? Please stop the crazy talk. And just look at how well Afghanistan has fought back since 1979 against Russia and now against the United States. Small arms DO make a difference.

Flappyhead: TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
Noah Webster

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

Obama isn't coming to have sex with your wife, calm down.


Why do anti-gun people make everything about sex??

25 Dec 2012 02:18 AM
IronTom    [TotalFark]  

Triumph: In a monarchy, this is the limit of allowable technology in private hands. Doesn't matter whether you're the monarch of North Korea or Britain; the peasantry needs to be kept as defenseless as possible.


Will you look at the size of that mallet? It must have been at least four quid.

25 Dec 2012 02:19 AM
Coming on a Bicycle     

Triumph: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x422]

In a monarchy, this is the limit of allowable technology in private hands. Doesn't matter whether you're the monarch of North Korea or Britain; the peasantry needs to be kept as defenseless as possible.


Keep living that fantasy man. And don't forget to contribute to your HOA on time. And remember: no visible clotheslines. You're living in the land of the free, after all. Don't want no washing showing.

25 Dec 2012 02:19 AM
NateAsbestos     
Totally an apples to apples comparison here. Yessir.

25 Dec 2012 02:20 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

kmmontandon: The Second Amendment was written in a time when hastily summoned militias had a hope of weapons parity and training with regular soldiery. That time has long passed. As has the time when we have to worry about a foreign power restricting our rights - we aren't a colony any more.


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No sense in worrying yourself about encroaching tyranny, citizen.

25 Dec 2012 02:21 AM
TheyCallMeC0WB0Y     

kmmontandon: phrawgh:
Driving is a privilege, not a right.


So is voting, but last I checked, there were some pretty hefty restrictions on exercising that right.

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.


The Second Amendment was written in a time when hastily summoned militias had a hope of weapons parity and training with regular soldiery. That time has long passed. As has the time when we have to worry about a foreign power restricting our rights - we aren't a colony any more.


Right. Now the big worry is a domestic power restricting our rights. Good thing those Founding Fathers saw fit to give us a means to not be enslaved by the government they built.

25 Dec 2012 02:21 AM
Mrtraveler01     

NateAsbestos: Totally an apples to apples comparison here. Yessir.


Well you see in one case, people died. And in the other case (this one), people didn't die.

It's a perfect example of how sucky subby's critical thinking skills are.

25 Dec 2012 02:22 AM
JSam21     
Ok... here is the thing that is being missed. Just like I don't understand the people that say "I don't like abortion and it should be illegal", I don't get the people who say "I don't like guns and they should be illegal".

No one is forcing you to have abortions or own guns. Let the people who want to do or own legal things do things.

Its like getting mad at me for buying a donut because you are on a diet.

25 Dec 2012 02:22 AM
Molavian     
Local resident Steven Oltay, 19, said he thought he heard the attack take place from his flat nearby.
He said: 'I was woken up last night by a woman screaming.
'Horrific screams, like an animal.
'I thought it was someone being murdered and almost ran out but decided against it.'


What a civilized society.

25 Dec 2012 02:23 AM
simkatu     

Ready-set: fusillade762: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Injured. Not killed, even.

Really? Do you guys know what IED means? Anyone can build a bomb with a trip to Home Depot and $20.

And if the FBI is watching: God bless America.

Outlaw something that already exists and you get a black market where only the worst have access.

Not unlike abortion. It's sad and awful. And it has to stay legal and safe. Good people shouldn't lose rights because of the dregs. And if it isn't obvious, I'm pro-choice because women deserve the right.


So grenade launchers and stinger missiles for sale at Wal-mart with no restrictions, permits, or background checks? Or do you believe the Constitution allows us to regulate arms?

25 Dec 2012 02:23 AM
Mrtraveler01     

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: kmmontandon: phrawgh:
Driving is a privilege, not a right.


So is voting, but last I checked, there were some pretty hefty restrictions on exercising that right.

TheyCallMeC0WB0Y: KrispyKritter: ignorance is bliss, subby. folks in Britain can have firearms, they just use them for hunting animals as they are intended.

Except the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and EVERYTHING to do with a violent revolution to topple the government.


The Second Amendment was written in a time when hastily summoned militias had a hope of weapons parity and training with regular soldiery. That time has long passed. As has the time when we have to worry about a foreign power restricting our rights - we aren't a colony any more.

Right. Now the big worry is a domestic power restricting our rights. Good thing those Founding Fathers saw fit to give us a means to not be enslaved by the government they built.


Oh for the love of Christ, do you actually think we're at a point where we need to violently topple the government we currently have in place now.

The one that was Democratically elected?

How are you going to stop this "domestic power restricting our rights" anyway?

25 Dec 2012 02:24 AM
OddLlama     
In all the gun threads I've read lately, there are those who insist that the second amendment is to insure protection for citizens against tyrannical governments. What I have never heard addressed is the army commanded by that government.are these people implying that our soldiers would take up arms against their families and friends in order to give power to a few in Washington? Do they not trust and support our troops? Why have I never heard this addressed?

25 Dec 2012 02:25 AM
Mrtraveler01     

JSam21: Ok... here is the thing that is being missed. Just like I don't understand the people that say "I don't like abortion and it should be illegal", I don't get the people who say "I don't like guns and they should be illegal".

No one is forcing you to have abortions or own guns. Let the people who want to do or own legal things do things.

Its like getting mad at me for buying a donut because you are on a diet.


I don't like guns, but I don't want to make them illegal outright. I just want to find a way to restrict who can get them.

I would not be happy with a free-for-all, anyone can buy a gun, policy.

25 Dec 2012 02:26 AM
JSam21     

simkatu: Ready-set: fusillade762: AverageAmericanGuy: Holloway Road sword attack - 1 victim

Injured. Not killed, even.

Really? Do you guys know what IED means? Anyone can build a bomb with a trip to Home Depot and $20.

And if the FBI is watching: God bless America.

Outlaw something that already exists and you get a black market where only the worst have access.

Not unlike abortion. It's sad and awful. And it has to stay legal and safe. Good people shouldn't lose rights because of the dregs. And if it isn't obvious, I'm pro-choice because women deserve the right.

So grenade launchers and stinger missiles for sale at Wal-mart with no restrictions, permits, or background checks? Or do you believe the Constitution allows us to regulate arms?


Of course it does... but an out right banning of guns is stupid.

But those items you've listed can legally be purchased by citizens with proper licensing.

25 Dec 2012 02:26 AM
AverageAmericanGuy    [TotalFark]  

OddLlama: In all the gun threads I've read lately, there are those who insist that the second amendment is to insure protection for citizens against tyrannical governments. What I have never heard addressed is the army commanded by that government.are these people implying that our soldiers would take up arms against their families and friends in order to give power to a few in Washington? Do they not trust and support our troops? Why have I never heard this addressed?


http://www.history.com/topics/americ an-civil-war

25 Dec 2012 02:26 AM
Mrtraveler01     

OddLlama: In all the gun threads I've read lately, there are those who insist that the second amendment is to insure protection for citizens against tyrannical governments. What I have never heard addressed is the army commanded by that government.are these people implying that our soldiers would take up arms against their families and friends in order to give power to a few in Washington? Do they not trust and support our troops? Why have I never heard this addressed?


Because they're irrational and paranoid idiots?

25 Dec 2012 02:27 AM
Mrtraveler01     

AverageAmericanGuy: OddLlama: In all the gun threads I've read lately, there are those who insist that the second amendment is to insure protection for citizens against tyrannical governments. What I have never heard addressed is the army commanded by that government.are these people implying that our soldiers would take up arms against their families and friends in order to give power to a few in Washington? Do they not trust and support our troops? Why have I never heard this addressed?

http://www.history.com/topics/america n-civil-war


Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo isn't going to happen.

Sorry guys.

25 Dec 2012 02:28 AM
Marcintosh     

Triumph: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x422]

In a monarchy, this is the limit of allowable technology in private hands. Doesn't matter whether you're the monarch of North Korea or Britain; the peasantry needs to be kept as defenseless as possible.


Yeah, like your BushyMeister is gonna be a deterrent to an APC full of Marines.
*sheesh*
Oh and Happy Holidays to everyone too.

25 Dec 2012 02:29 AM
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