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   Newspaper helpfully publishes names and addresses of local houses not to rob while occupied. Hilarity is ensuing

25 Dec 2012 11:11 AM   |   23232 clicks   |   ABC
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NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  
They really didn't think this thing through at all. Very, very bad idea. Someone should get fired for that.

I am a gun owner and I support new legislation and common-sense measures to restrict/ban hi-cap mags, certain types of weapons and more enforcement of current laws on the books. This is NOT helping!

Whomever thought that was a good idea should be unemployed.

25 Dec 2012 12:58 AM
feckingmorons    [TotalFark]  
Newspapers do this sort of thing every five or six years.  Then somebody publishes the names, addresses, phone numbers, license plate numbers, and schools of the kids of all the reporters and editors and they all have to jump through hoops to get phone numbers changed, and if I recall last time I read about this foolishness one of the reporters moved because she was tired of getting rotten fish guts on her porch.

25 Dec 2012 01:25 AM
doglover    [TotalFark]  
"How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.

25 Dec 2012 03:45 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves    [TotalFark]  

doglover: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.


The publisher, the publisher's home alarm security code, the publisher's favorite nine-martini-lunch restaurant, the publisher's country club tee times and the dates he tells his family he's going to a men's fellowship meeting but really goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.

25 Dec 2012 08:20 AM
snuff3r     

NewportBarGuy: They really didn't think this thing through at all. Very, very bad idea. Someone should get fired for that.

I am a gun owner and I support new legislation and common-sense measures to restrict/ban hi-cap mags, certain types of weapons and more enforcement of current laws on the books. This is NOT helping!

Whomever thought that was a good idea should be unemployed.


Do something about the laws that allow the info to be pubic record. The hand-wringing is a bit boring. Noones going to lose their job over this.

Someone's going to publish it eventually. Whether it's a paper or a gun control blogger.

25 Dec 2012 08:32 AM
Generation_D    [TotalFark]  
I could see this backfiring.

25 Dec 2012 08:37 AM
doglover    [TotalFark]  

Generation_D: I could see this backfiring.


Case an address, doublecheck the list. Not on the gun owners' registry? Easy pickins for a home invasion. They won't shoot back.

25 Dec 2012 08:51 AM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  
Pfaw, public records. I could've gotten the same information if I go to the local town halls.

25 Dec 2012 08:52 AM
catusr    [TotalFark]  
I live in a somewhat rural area, where you assume that every house has at least one gun.

25 Dec 2012 08:58 AM
Barfmaker    [TotalFark]  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.


Go on...

25 Dec 2012 08:58 AM
Sleeping Monkey     
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25 Dec 2012 09:30 AM
OregonVet    [TotalFark]  

catusr: I live in a somewhat rural area, where you assume that every house has at least one gun.


Yah, out in the country pretty much everyone has at least one gun. We don't have to register them either.

25 Dec 2012 09:40 AM
IamKaiserSoze!!!     
God, but zealots do some thoroughly brain dead stuff. I mean, that's Westboro Baptist crazy.

I hope those assholes lose every gun owners subscription, as well as those who don't own guns but still have common sense. Advertisers should be dropping them right and left too.

Fire the editor and whatever writers were involved with this.

25 Dec 2012 10:20 AM
tenpoundsofcheese     

RexTalionis: Pfaw, public records. I could've gotten the same information if I go to the local town halls.


sure.
just like you can go to a court house and find the names of everyone on trial and the charges against them - you can publish that too.

25 Dec 2012 10:36 AM
shanrick    [TotalFark]  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: doglover: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.

The publisher, the publisher's home alarm security code, the publisher's favorite nine-martini-lunch restaurant, the publisher's country club tee times and the dates he tells his family he's going to a men's fellowship meeting but really goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.


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Dita's Dungeon has it all...

25 Dec 2012 10:43 AM
coco ebert     
Oh, my. Judging from the comments, we have a quite a number of revolutionaries on our hands here.

25 Dec 2012 10:48 AM
RexTalionis    [TotalFark]  

tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: Pfaw, public records. I could've gotten the same information if I go to the local town halls.

sure.
just like you can go to a court house and find the names of everyone on trial and the charges against them - you can publish that too.


I don't get your point. 1) That's false, not all names are released (for instance, minors), and 2) so what? Isn't that what newspapers do?

I am under no delusion that I have an expectation of privacy in my public records.

25 Dec 2012 10:55 AM
The Face Of Oblivion     
I'm familiar with a smal part of the area in question and can emphatically state that this list is incomplete both in not listing all pistol permit holders and in totally omitting unregistered guns. Doesn't excuse the idiocy of the decision to publish this information for general consumption, but anyone who thinks they're guaranteed a selection of easy targets based on unlisted homes might well be on the receiving end of some small-caliber hilarity.

25 Dec 2012 11:17 AM
tlchwi02     
isn't it generally known when you apply that it will be publically available? pretty sure i knew that when i got my permit in MA.

25 Dec 2012 11:17 AM
Hamanu     

doglover: Generation_D: I could see this backfiring.

Case an address, doublecheck the list. Not on the gun owners' registry? Easy pickins for a home invasion. They won't shoot back.


That makes no sense, no one's going to shoot anyone when there's no one there.

I would think that the reason people are pissed off is because thieves are going to be targeting gun owner's houses to steal their guns.

25 Dec 2012 11:18 AM
Wolf_Blitzer     

doglover: Generation_D: I could see this backfiring.

Case an address, doublecheck the list. Not on the gun owners' registry? Easy pickins for a home invasion. They won't shoot back.


Or, I can pick an address that *is* listed, wait until no one is home, and then walk out with some firearms that will sell very nicely on the black market.

The vast majority of burglars operate when the home is vacant, something your vaunted guns will do nothing to protect against.

25 Dec 2012 11:18 AM
robnelle     
Follow up article:

Mass shooting at The Journal News offices by disgruntled gun owner.

25 Dec 2012 11:20 AM
tenpoundsofcheese     

RexTalionis: tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: Pfaw, public records. I could've gotten the same information if I go to the local town halls.

sure.
just like you can go to a court house and find the names of everyone on trial and the charges against them - you can publish that too.

I don't get your point. 1) That's false, not all names are released (for instance, minors), and 2) so what? Isn't that what newspapers do?

I am under no delusion that I have an expectation of privacy in my public records.


The point is ease of access.
I doubt that newspapers publish the list of every adult who is charged with a crime and the details of that crime.
Much less do they create a nice interactive tool that, I don't know, people who are hiring people could look at in their free time
(although of course they would never make a decision based on what they read)

Are the resumes and job applications of people who apply for federal jobs considered public information?  If so, is there a searchable database for all that info?

25 Dec 2012 11:21 AM
Spanky McStupid     

tlchwi02: isn't it generally known when you apply that it will be publically available? pretty sure i knew that when i got my permit in MA.


Available for someone to discover, perhaps; but published is another thing.

25 Dec 2012 11:23 AM
stealthd     

doglover: Generation_D: I could see this backfiring.

Case an address, doublecheck the list. Not on the gun owners' registry? Easy pickins for a home invasion. They won't shoot back.


That's not how crime works.

25 Dec 2012 11:23 AM
titwrench     
Put me on the map. But not my pussy ass hippy neighbors.

25 Dec 2012 11:24 AM
angryjd     

Mr. Coffee Nerves: doglover: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.

The publisher, the publisher's home alarm security code, the publisher's favorite nine-martini-lunch restaurant, the publisher's country club tee times and the dates he tells his family he's going to a men's fellowship meeting but really goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.


THAT IS A SCURRILOUS LIE!!!!!! The albino was not shaved.

25 Dec 2012 11:24 AM
tlchwi02     

Spanky McStupid: Available for someone to discover, perhaps; but published is another thing.


seems like semantics at that point. I guess its annoying that a newspaper published it, but if anyone who was interested could obtain the information anyway i don't get the outrage. oh no, public information is available to the public!

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
computerguyUT     
The people that should be pissed are the ones that DON'T own guns. Now everone knows that they have to legal way to defend themselves. This is just plain batshiat crazy.

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
Deep Contact     
How about a list of illegal gun owners.

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
Ceiling Moran     
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
TonyDanza     

snuff3r: Noones going to lose their job over this.


But Noone didn't have anything to do with this. Noone has been doing a great job since he joined the paper.

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus     
What, don't all you tough-guy six-shootin' cowboys want everyone to know how big and bad you are with your big bad guns? Pussies. Learn to fist-fight, like a real man.

25 Dec 2012 11:25 AM
tylerdurden217     

snuff3r: NewportBarGuy: They really didn't think this thing through at all. Very, very bad idea. Someone should get fired for that.

I am a gun owner and I support new legislation and common-sense measures to restrict/ban hi-cap mags, certain types of weapons and more enforcement of current laws on the books. This is NOT helping!

Whomever thought that was a good idea should be unemployed.

Do something about the laws that allow the info to be pubic record. The hand-wringing is a bit boring. Noones going to lose their job over this.

Someone's going to publish it eventually. Whether it's a paper or a gun control blogger.


No one is two words... Unless of course you are saying nooooneees, which is how I read that.

25 Dec 2012 11:26 AM
generallyso     
FTA: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...," wrote commenter George Thompson.

Seems fair to me.

25 Dec 2012 11:26 AM
GoldSpider     
There's an idea. Treat gun owners like registered pedophiles, and then wonder why they have such a persecution complex.

25 Dec 2012 11:27 AM
gunsmack     
So you publish folks who, like myself, have handgun permits. Keep in mind that some states require no such permit for shotguns and rifles.

25 Dec 2012 11:27 AM
tylerdurden217     
The ONLY thing that can stop a bad guy with a newspaper is a good guy with a newspaper.

25 Dec 2012 11:27 AM
steamingpile     
Step 1)Have a break in staged Step 2) hide gun Step 3) sue paper

Profit!

25 Dec 2012 11:28 AM
ParaHandy     
I have been thinking during other recent gun threads that this would be a good idea, for all guns. As things stand, you only need a permit if you're a serious gun nerd, or a SoF rambo. This kind of map is perfect for parents who don't want to buy a house near someone who is likely to send a stray round through the wall.

Why would a pro-gun person be ashamed of their guns?

25 Dec 2012 11:29 AM
steamingpile     

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: What, don't all you tough-guy six-shootin' cowboys want everyone to know how big and bad you are with your big bad guns? Pussies. Learn to fist-fight, like a real man.


Real world doesn't work that way, also just because you have a gun permit doesn't mean you have a conceal/carry permit which means they can be stolen once people know you are not home.

25 Dec 2012 11:30 AM
Pav     
Public records are public! Oh the horror!

25 Dec 2012 11:30 AM
GoldSpider     

ParaHandy: This kind of map is perfect for parents who don't want to buy a house near someone who is likely to send a stray round through the wall.


Most parents don't share your paralyzing fear of firearms. Seek help.

25 Dec 2012 11:30 AM
Maybe you should drive     

tlchwi02: seems like semantics at that point. I guess its annoying that a newspaper published it, but if anyone who was interested could obtain the information anyway i don't get the outrage. oh no, public information is available to the public!


Not at all. I've never known of a burglar who bothered to go downtown to check public records for information like this. But despite what many probably believe, many see the local section of the newspaper. If for no other reason than to see which of their buddies was recently arrested.
.
I can't speak for others, but I know I don't worry about my house getting broken into when I'm home. I'm worried about my house getting broken into when I'm not home.

25 Dec 2012 11:31 AM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     

tylerdurden217: snuff3r: NewportBarGuy: They really didn't think this thing through at all. Very, very bad idea. Someone should get fired for that.

I am a gun owner and I support new legislation and common-sense measures to restrict/ban hi-cap mags, certain types of weapons and more enforcement of current laws on the books. This is NOT helping!

Whomever thought that was a good idea should be unemployed.

Do something about the laws that allow the info to be pubic record. The hand-wringing is a bit boring. Noones going to lose their job over this.

Someone's going to publish it eventually. Whether it's a paper or a gun control blogger.

No one is two words... Unless of course you are saying nooooneees, which is how I read that.


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25 Dec 2012 11:31 AM
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T     

ParaHandy: I have been thinking during other recent gun threads that this would be a good idea, for all guns. As things stand, you only need a permit if you're a serious gun nerd, or a SoF rambo. This kind of map is perfect for parents who don't want to buy a house near someone who is likely to send a stray round through the wall.

Why would a pro-gun person be ashamed of their guns?


Exactly! It's stories like this that made the wife and I decide against moving into a golf course neighborhood.

/Never know when one of those serious golfers will go nuts

25 Dec 2012 11:32 AM
NewportBarGuy    [TotalFark]  

coco ebert: Oh, my. Judging from the comments, we have a quite a number of revolutionaries on our hands here.


What purpose does this serve? I've tried to find a positive aspect and found none. They want to create a visual to get across the point of how many guns are out there? Fine, just stick with the numbers. I honestly see no need to list the names and addresses of every pistol permit holder. I understand that this information is available under FOIA, but what possible purpose does it serve to collate it and put it out like that?

It's just going to piss people off more and that is not going to further the debate, nor will it help convince other gun owners to embrace new legislation or increased enforcement of current legislation.

If they want to collect the data, they should also pull all criminal records of those they are targeting and combine that with the data and find out how many people with pistol permits should a) not have been given them or b) who should have them taken away because of a crime after they got it. That? I'm fine with that.

Just putting it out there like they did? Not cool with that at all.

25 Dec 2012 11:32 AM
Bit'O'Gristle     
Why would you do that? I can see publishing names of child rapers and other sexual deviants, but posting who is armed and who isn't? You know someone is going to try to burgle one of those homes that has guns in it while the people are away.

25 Dec 2012 11:32 AM
vygramul    [TotalFark]  

Hamanu: doglover: Generation_D: I could see this backfiring.

Case an address, doublecheck the list. Not on the gun owners' registry? Easy pickins for a home invasion. They won't shoot back.

That makes no sense, no one's going to shoot anyone when there's no one there.

I would think that the reason people are pissed off is because thieves are going to be targeting gun owner's houses to steal their guns.


Whether you're a gun owner or not, you probably shouldn't think this is a good idea.

25 Dec 2012 11:33 AM
utharda    [TotalFark]  

coco ebert: Oh, my. Judging from the comments, we have a quite a number of revolutionaries on our hands here.


I'd say they're more parlor pinks.  Anyone know why the GOP decided to take the color of the Revolution as its own?

25 Dec 2012 11:34 AM
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