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   Paging Rev. Al Sharpton: Twenty-five years after a teenage Tawana Brawley falsely dragged his name through the mud as a gang-raping, kidnapping racist, it's payback time for Steven Pagones. Seeking to garnish her wages within the next couple of weeks

25 Dec 2012 04:09 PM   |   30601 clicks   |   NYPost
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tlchwi02     
can't say as i blame the guy. Especially since she has never apologized or cleared the record.

25 Dec 2012 04:12 PM
Waldo Pepper     
Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all

25 Dec 2012 04:13 PM
Satanic_Hamster     
Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

25 Dec 2012 04:13 PM
borg    [TotalFark]  

Waldo Pepper: Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all


Rev. Al already paid his share of the lawsuit he's free and clear.

25 Dec 2012 04:15 PM
Kuoxasar     
"He'll be scrubbing toilets in Tijuana, for pennies, and I'll be standing over him to get my cut."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKeL3M u5AKo

25 Dec 2012 04:16 PM
Arcturus72    [TotalFark]  
Because it was only $185k, but thanks to interest and *hand waving* jedi mind tricks, that amount has gone up considerably... And it was back a few years, but thats what I got out of it from RTFA...

25 Dec 2012 04:17 PM
skinink     
Can he also go after Spike Lee for reinforcing the lie that Twana told the truth?

25 Dec 2012 04:18 PM
CaffietineFiend     
Good. Make her little lying ass pay up!

25 Dec 2012 04:19 PM
ClavellBCMI    [TotalFark]  

borg: Waldo Pepper: Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all

Rev. Al already paid his share of the lawsuit he's free and clear.


Yep, she's the last one of the people he got the judgement against who hasn't either paid up or is in the process of paying up (one of her lawyers, since dis-barred, is currently being garnished). And her share is so big now because of interest on the original amount.

25 Dec 2012 04:19 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     
Pay attention, Zimmerman.

25 Dec 2012 04:20 PM
Loren     
Cue black outrage in 3, 2, 1...

25 Dec 2012 04:20 PM
Torqueknot     

Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.


Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

25 Dec 2012 04:21 PM
kronicfeld    [TotalFark]  
Who wants to hear some "Ike" jokes?????

25 Dec 2012 04:22 PM
KiwDaWabbit     
People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.

25 Dec 2012 04:22 PM
jake_lex    [TotalFark]  

Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.


I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.

25 Dec 2012 04:23 PM
ClavellBCMI    [TotalFark]  

jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.


And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.

25 Dec 2012 04:25 PM
ParaHandy     
Why wasn't she prosecuted for making false statements? Is perjury not a crime in US criminal cases?

/ I know it's legal to lie in a civil writ, at least in CA, as I've been on the receiving end

25 Dec 2012 04:25 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     
Only thing I will complain about here: She was 15. Are 15yos liable? Fully liable? Even somewhat liable? Fifteens can't into licensured driving.

25 Dec 2012 04:25 PM
maniacbastard     
imokwiththis.jpeg

25 Dec 2012 04:25 PM
Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  
Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.

25 Dec 2012 04:26 PM
Phoenix_M     
Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.

25 Dec 2012 04:26 PM
qlenfg     
I remember the case quite well, and was not surprised when it came out she had lied. However, I don't recall the media reporting the defamation judgments at all -- unlike their rabid coverage of the original story. In any case, any monies he gets will unlikely make up for losing his job as prosecutor and the crap he had to deal with because she lied so her mama wouldn't whip her arse for whoring around.

25 Dec 2012 04:28 PM
DownDaRiver     
Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused

25 Dec 2012 04:31 PM
prince of peas     

ClavellBCMI: jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.


FTFA: Sharpton paid his $66,000 judgment to Pagones, with help from OJ Simpson lawyer Johnnie Cochran and others.

More than likely, Reverend Slimy never paid a cent, he had his wealthy friends pay the penalty, just as he has others pay for everything else. Slimeball.

25 Dec 2012 04:31 PM
noitsnot     

jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.


She made up a story that didn't blame anyone specifically - just "some white guys did it". The accusations of specific people didn't happen until the other DB's got involved.

25 Dec 2012 04:31 PM
Dragonflew     

KiwDaWabbit: People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.


I believe they should receive the same punishment as an actual rapist.

25 Dec 2012 04:32 PM
thatboyoverthere    [TotalFark]  

Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.


Hell I'm ordained from the internet. Maybe I should change my name to thatpriestoverthere?

25 Dec 2012 04:32 PM
ClavellBCMI    [TotalFark]  

thatboyoverthere: Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.

Hell I'm ordained from the internet. Maybe I should change my name to thatpriestoverthere?


You have as legit a right to call yourself "Reverend" as Al Sharpton does, go for it.

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
PsychoLaurie     
The fact that she doesn't use the last name "Brawley" now and was basically in hiding makes me think she knew the garnishment was coming eventually.

/no doubt she'll feel raped by the staggering amount

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
Igor Jakovsky     
I hope the guy gets every cent owed him though I think sharpton should have had a bigger judgement against him. He was the one with the soapbox who really perpetuated the lie.

Did he ever get sued for the duke lacross lie? If so, did he have a judgement against him?

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
tillerman35     

Arcturus72: Because it was only $185k, but thanks to interest and *hand waving* jedi mind tricks, that amount has gone up considerably... And it was back a few years, but thats what I got out of it from RTFA...


Compound interest is a biatch. Actually, it doesn't look like a very high interest rate based on the fact that she owes just over twice the initial amount after, what, 28 years? 3, 3.5-ish percent maybe? (I'm too lazy to do the math.)

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
traxan    [TotalFark]  
Whether he paid the penalty or not, it's a real disgrace that Sharpton continues to enjoy ANY media credibility. He has a show on MSNBC and was on Fox way too many times for my liking. He should be in hiding along with Tawana.

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
theflatline    [TotalFark]  
Reminds me of the time I had a cashier working for me at Pat Obriens, she would chew grape Hubba Bubba, three pieces at a time, and then when her jaw got tired, she would put it on her giant fake fingernail, saying the gum still had flavor.

So one day a customer thinks that purple blob in his drink is a big piece of fruit....  Needless to say I had to fire her.

So I get called to the labor board for racism, then I provide the judge with a pic of me and my black grandma in Colombia, and my brown ass standing there, and a video of her with the gum on her thumb, plus all of her reprimands for money missing out of the register.

I was exonerated, but still...  I wish her wages were garnished too.

25 Dec 2012 04:35 PM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

Dragonflew: KiwDaWabbit: People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.

I believe they should receive the same punishment as an actual rapist.


Rape?

25 Dec 2012 04:36 PM
ReapTheChaos     
Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.

25 Dec 2012 04:36 PM
noitsnot     

DownDaRiver: Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused


You guys have weird ideas - like some 15yo girl is gonna stand up to a bunch of pushy money grubbing adults, including her parents who beat her.

25 Dec 2012 04:36 PM
olddinosaur     
Neither Brawley or Sharpton ever served a single day of time for their crimes; to the best of my knowledge they were never even arrested for anything.

The Duke Fake Rape "Victim" also never faced arrest and trial, but she did get busted for murdering a guy some time later. The DA was never arrested, though right to the last he tried to force people he knew were innocent to perjure themselves and admit to lesser "crimes" which they also did not commit----all to save his useless "reputation."

Makes ne want to throw up.

25 Dec 2012 04:37 PM
Honest Bender    [TotalFark]  

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


Even when "holding a grudge" is worth over four hundred thousand dollars? I don't know if I'd be that forgiving... And it was a pretty terrible grudge to begin with...

25 Dec 2012 04:38 PM
HideAndGoFarkYourself    [TotalFark]  
So, this Pagones guy, he was a Lacrosse player at Duke, right? Or was that a different claim of gang rape that everyone believed initially, that turned out to be total crap?

You'd think after the Brawley incident that people would learn that sometimes, it's best to reserve your outrage until there's actual proof of something to be outraged about.

In my career I've taken probably....50 initial reports from people of all genders, races, ages, etc who have alleged sexual abuse. I'd be surprised if half of those turned out to be true. The number of people who claim that a parent is molesting them, or the number of teenage girls who claim to be raped to cover up consenual sex with a boyfriend or girlfriend is STAGGERING. Makes you wonder how somebody can intentionally ruin somebody's life to avoid being grounded for a few months.

25 Dec 2012 04:39 PM
NannyStatePark     

fusillade762: Dragonflew: KiwDaWabbit: People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.

I believe they should receive the same punishment as an actual rapist.

Rape?


In Texas that's about three years probation. I've witnessed this in court. I think rapists deserve actual punishment. Judge Ogden Bass of my long, untold CSB deserves to be raped for three years straight.

25 Dec 2012 04:41 PM
maggoo     

Honest Bender: Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.


The point of all this is not to make a fortune out of this deal. The point of this is to make her pay for her false accusations. If that's enough to make her work as hard as she can and still earn 75% of what she is paid as a punishment for farking up other people's lives, that's a form of justice.

25 Dec 2012 04:41 PM
maggoo     

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge. Some people need to learn how to let things go.


It's kind of hard to let go petty little things, such as completely farking up a man's life.

25 Dec 2012 04:43 PM
JasonKY     
I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.

25 Dec 2012 04:51 PM
Maynotlast     

skinink: Can he also go after Spike Lee for reinforcing the lie that Twana told the truth?


Oh, if only THIS were possible!!! It would be a Christmas Miracle!!

25 Dec 2012 04:52 PM
NannyStatePark     
I am utterly divided over this.

Dude deserves everything he's got coming from a lying, race baiting little biatch who would ruin lives rather than face punishment for her own deeds.

Victim of chronic asskicking abuse, cyclical poverty, lousy education, and racist indoctrination tries to save her ass with a lie, only to watch her own children do without because of it, as the punch line to the cruel joke that life as a young black single mother must be...

It's like mental ping pong. I'm beginning to lean towards the dude.

25 Dec 2012 04:54 PM
theflatline    [TotalFark]  

JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.


Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.

25 Dec 2012 04:55 PM
Dr.Mxyzptlk.     
Say isn't Rev Sharpton a host on MSNBC and frequent contributor to Morning Joe ?

//* cough.

25 Dec 2012 04:58 PM
fozziewazzi     

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Only thing I will complain about here: She was 15. Are 15yos liable? Fully liable? Even somewhat liable? Fifteens can't into licensured driving.


Hmm., good point. I mean, if we've already decided that 15 years isn't old enough to decide whether or not to get pissed on, I don't see how we can pass this kind of judgment.

25 Dec 2012 04:59 PM
KiwDaWabbit     

HideAndGoFarkYourself: In my career I've taken probably....50 initial reports from people of all genders, races, ages, etc who have alleged sexual abuse. I'd be surprised if half of those turned out to be true. The number of people who claim that a parent is molesting them, or the number of teenage girls who claim to be raped to cover up consenual sex with a boyfriend or girlfriend is STAGGERING. Makes you wonder how somebody can intentionally ruin somebody's life to avoid being grounded for a few months.


Teenagers generally don't think about whose life they might be ruining when they're that terrified of what their parents will do. Obviously, I'm no parenting expert, but I think it's better to be open and teach your kids actual decision making skills, that decisions have consequences, and that you have to own every single one of your own actions than it is to teach them that certain things are terrible and to just stay away from all of these things or else.

25 Dec 2012 05:00 PM
HammerHeadSnark     

olddinosaur: Neither Brawley or Sharpton ever served a single day of time for their crimes; to the best of my knowledge they were never even arrested for anything.

The Duke Fake Rape "Victim" also never faced arrest and trial, but she did get busted for murdering a guy some time later. The DA was never arrested, though right to the last he tried to force people he knew were innocent to perjure themselves and admit to lesser "crimes" which they also did not commit----all to save his useless "reputation."

Makes ne want to throw up.


Ne, too. . . .

/high five?

25 Dec 2012 05:02 PM
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