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   Massachusetts disbands successful car theft strike force in favor of more road patrols. So feel free to steal that car, but keep it under 65 miles per hour

30 Dec 2012 04:15 PM   |   1930 clicks   |   The Eagle Tribune
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duffblue     
Massachusetts needs more police to ticket bad drivers, unfortunately the police are also residents.

30 Dec 2012 02:10 PM
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jaylectricity    [TotalFark]  
"This was a move made to enhance patrol presence in the context of a tight budget situation," State Police spokesman David Procopio said.

Basically, we can't afford this task force any longer so we'll go back to ticketing drivers for cash. Eventually the auto theft rates will rise again and when they get bad enough, some politician will make it his mission to crack down. By then, maybe we'll have enough money to do it again. But money is tight, right now. But maybe we'll have more in the future.

30 Dec 2012 02:47 PM
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bronyaur1    [TotalFark]  
In other news, people don't want to pay taxes but they want governmental services.

30 Dec 2012 03:05 PM
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BMFPitt     
"This was a move made to enhance patrol presence in the context of a tight budget situation," State Police spokesman David Procopio said.

Wow, usually they at least have the decency to lie.

30 Dec 2012 04:21 PM
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jdamaral     
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Breaking news: state agencies have to prioritize programs to adhere to a budget

30 Dec 2012 04:23 PM
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Troifan     
Like in most states, this is a hidden tax that affects the poor much greater than those well off.

Just another way to make money and fleece the public. All governments, particularly the federal government, have long forgot who works for who. It has become they think we work for them, not the other way around.

30 Dec 2012 04:24 PM
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lordjupiter     
traffic tickets = increased revenue
car theft force = increased expense, and the owner's insurance probably covers the theft anyway

tough choice

30 Dec 2012 04:26 PM
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Nem Wan     
Also OK with this.
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30 Dec 2012 04:28 PM
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Goatman6.0     
Cars are getting harder to steal though, with ignition interupters and keyless ignition, seems legit.

30 Dec 2012 04:29 PM
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Silverstaff     

BMFPitt: "This was a move made to enhance patrol presence in the context of a tight budget situation," State Police spokesman David Procopio said.

Wow, usually they at least have the decency to lie.


One of the worst things that can happen to police is when their bosses start to see them as a revenue-producing agency instead of a public safety agency.

30 Dec 2012 04:32 PM
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lordjupiter     
LESS COPS!
MOAR GUNS!

30 Dec 2012 04:36 PM
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Enemabag Jones     
They could leave cars running in bad parts of town, wait for brain-dead assholes to take it for a ride, then charge them with stealing a car.

Not that it it really addresses the problem, but it is something else then ticketing drivers with a monetary stream involved.

30 Dec 2012 04:36 PM
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clowncar on fire     
Whch is more economical- to fund the unit or cover the cost of vehicles stolen in their abscence? I'm assuming the rest of the police force have the capacity to recover or investigate stole vehicle claims.

30 Dec 2012 04:37 PM
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jdamaral     

Goatman6.0: Cars are getting harder to steal though, with ignition interupters and keyless ignition, seems legit.


This is the elephant in the room in this whole discussion. Of course the rate of car thefts has declined in the last thirty years. You can't open a car with a coat hanger anymore. Despite having no taskforce at all, banging on a jukebox in the right spot to get it to play has decreased 100%! I have significant doubts that a team of a dozen or so cops(probably overstating it, btw) have had a tremendous impact in car thefts across the whole state.

Silverstaff: BMFPitt: "This was a move made to enhance patrol presence in the context of a tight budget situation," State Police spokesman David Procopio said.

Wow, usually they at least have the decency to lie.

One of the worst things that can happen to police is when their bosses start to see them as a revenue-producing agency instead of a public safety agency.


There have been a number of fatal accidents on Massachusetts roadways. I'll admit that any state has such accidents and we can argue all day about the necessity of traffic cops, but I absolutely believe that more cops on the highway = more safety. All the whining about tickets is a little silly to me.

30 Dec 2012 04:38 PM
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tmonsta     

bronyaur1: In other news, people don't want to pay taxes but they want governmental services.


It's Massachusetts, 90% of taxes go to graft and corruption.

30 Dec 2012 04:43 PM
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LemSkroob     
Arresting criminals costs money. Giving tickets makes money.

30 Dec 2012 04:47 PM
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Quaker     

duffblue: Massachusetts needs more police to ticket bad drivers, unfortunately the police are also residents.


I knew you were from New York as soon as I read that. In my experience, Massachusetts drivers are aggressive while New York drivers are just unaware of their surroundings. I prefer dealing with the former.

/And you're all wicked retahded
//The Commonwealth rules

30 Dec 2012 04:52 PM
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bindlestiff2600     
as far as services and paying for it

gee, if only our tax base was what it used to be

30 Dec 2012 05:00 PM
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DownDaRiver    [TotalFark]  

Goatman6.0: Cars are getting harder to steal though, with ignition interupters and keyless ignition, seems legit.


Yea, I'm going with you on that.
Add advances with factory and after-market GPS tracking. I would bet that new vehicle thefts are down all over.

That, and yes, anti-theft divisions make citzens feel better. But there is little $$ return compared to the revenue stream of being able to tiicket more.

30 Dec 2012 05:00 PM
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wildcardjack     

Goatman6.0: Cars are getting harder to steal though, with ignition interupters and keyless ignition, seems legit.


Hence the rise of carjacking. Which lead to autolocking doors. Which lead to the thief mugging you for your keys and clicker.

It's a supply and demand thing. If you eliminate the demand from chop shops and exporters then the supply shrinks and theft drops.

30 Dec 2012 05:08 PM
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Rozinante     

jdamaral: You can't open a car with a coat hanger anymore.


Maybe you can't. I saw it done a month ago when someone locked his keys in his car at work. It's a lot harder to start one without the key, though.

30 Dec 2012 05:08 PM
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ajgeek    [TotalFark]  

jdamaral: Breaking news: state agencies have to prioritize programs to adhere to a budget


Breaking News: State Agencies should not need to rely on civil offenses to meet their budget in the first place. The original intent was that violations would be used to improve on the baseline, not meet it.

30 Dec 2012 05:09 PM
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Notabunny    [TotalFark]  

LemSkroob: Arresting criminals costs money. Giving tickets makes money.


No, no. It's always about safety. Citing someone for doing 30 in a 25 increases safety more than arresting a criminal.

30 Dec 2012 05:15 PM
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BMFPitt     

ajgeek: Breaking News: State Agencies should not need to rely on civil offenses to meet their budget in the first place. The original intent was that violations would be used to improve on the baseline, not meet it.


Make all such fines (outside of any restitution to the victim, if any) go directly to a fund to pay off the national debt.

Then perhaps we'll see less speed traps and cops will be used for (GASP!) public safety.

30 Dec 2012 05:19 PM
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duffblue     

Quaker: duffblue: Massachusetts needs more police to ticket bad drivers, unfortunately the police are also residents.

I knew you were from New York as soon as I read that. In my experience, Massachusetts drivers are aggressive while New York drivers are just unaware of their surroundings. I prefer dealing with the former.

/And you're all wicked retahded
//The Commonwealth rules


Massholes and people from New Jersey and New York are the worst drivers in the nation. Floridians and people from Connecticut are tied for second place. For some reason people from New England don't understand that the left lane is made for passing. If you call doing ten under the speed limit "aggressive," I would hate to see what passive driving is. I live in Pennsylvania though. We have these things called mountains that people from the coast piss themselves over.

30 Dec 2012 05:21 PM
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jaylectricity    [TotalFark]  

duffblue: If you call doing ten under the speed limit "aggressive,"


You must have been out west with the cowpokes and tractors.

The speed limit on the freeway in Boston is 45, but unless it's rush hour you won't find anybody doing less than 60.

30 Dec 2012 05:31 PM
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ZackDanger     
duffblue:

Massholes and people from New Jersey and New York are the worst drivers in the nation. Floridians and people from Connecticut are tied for second place. For some reason people from New England don't understand that the left lane is made for passing. If you call doing ten under the speed limit "aggressive," I would hate to see what passive driving is. I live in Pennsylvania though. We have these things called mountains that people from the coast piss themselves over.

Suggesting that New York and New Jersey drivers don't know what they're doing while Pennsylvania drivers do.

That's rich.

(And I agree with the "Mass drivers are aggressive but aware" statements. I have found that in general MA drivers know full well when they are driving like dicks... where as other states the driver's just seem to forget that they aren't the only ones on the road.)

30 Dec 2012 05:32 PM
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TexasPeace    [TotalFark]  
Imprisoning desperate destitute car thieves costs millions in expenditures.
Ticketing employed productive compliant sheeple generates millions in revenue.

30 Dec 2012 05:35 PM
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taurusowner     

ajgeek: jdamaral: Breaking news: state agencies have to prioritize programs to adhere to a budget

Breaking News: State Agencies should not need to rely on civil offenses to meet their budget in the first place. The original intent was that violations would be used to improve on the baseline, not meet it.


At what point in human history have government bureaucrats ever cared about original intent when faced with an unending bag of money they can reach into any time they want?

30 Dec 2012 05:36 PM
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the_chief     
Penny wise, pound foolish.

30 Dec 2012 05:42 PM
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glenlivid     
In Portland they just send you a letter every 3 months asking you if your car has turned up yet. No...no it did not. Portland is also the only city where your '84 Volvo wagon comes up missing FOREVER.

30 Dec 2012 06:17 PM
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Boojum2k     
Theoretically they could double their revenue by ticketing speeders on the interstate. In reality a cop car lighting up in bumper to bumper 80-mph traffic will kill more Americans than al-Qaeda in an enormous pileup that would look like something out of Michael Bay's spank bank.

30 Dec 2012 07:06 PM
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Gulper Eel    [TotalFark]  

jdamaral: I absolutely believe that more cops on the highway = more safety revenue.


Fixed for you.

You know what would increase safety AND revenue? Being able to turn in farkwits who are witnessed driving drunk or otherwise over-the-top. I'm not talking 62 in a 55 zone, rolling at 1mph through a stop sign, or any of that ticky-tack stuff. I'm talking holy-fark-this-idiot-in-front-of-me-ha s-been-all-over-the-road-for-ten -miles or jesus-h-christ-this-hopped-up-trucker- is-18-inches-off-my-bumper type behavior.

The state provides the (screened) driver with a cheap dashboard camera with GPS, and any proceeds from the tickets and/or property seizures get split between the state and the driver. At the hours I drive to work (closing time), I could make some gas money off the dumbass college kids driving home loaded on mommy and daddy's dime.

30 Dec 2012 07:46 PM
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