I generally hew strongly to Kipling's view on the clergy ("Be polite, but not friendly, with bishops. Be kind to all poor parish priests."), but I'll give a tip of my hat to this man for his defiance of communism. Whether or not you agree with his theology, he used his notoriety (from the government's point of view) as a tool to stand up for what he believed in- in the face of a fairly despotic government.

Requiesce in pace, padre.

It would have been better if he had built 300 meeting places for anarchists, freethinkers, and the like to smoke pot, have promiscuous sex, and otherwise live free from Communist totalitarianism. IMHO, Catholicism is just as oppressive as any Communist government--just compare life under a Medici Pope to life under Josef Stalin. Communist fanatics are just as dangerous as Catholic fanatics--different belief systems, same personality disorder...

And how many kids did he diddle while doing it?

Approves

yeah subtard,
those kids ain't gonna diddle themselves in the street.
besides, those tax dodging bible thumpers need a roof over their heads too.

Giant Polish balls thread!

Wenchmaster: I generally hew strongly to Kipling's view on the clergy ("Be polite, but not friendly, with bishops. Be kind to all poor parish priests."), but I'll give a tip of my hat to this man for his defiance of communism. Whether or not you agree with his theology, he used his notoriety (from the government's point of view) as a tool to stand up for what he believed in- in the face of a fairly despotic government.

Requiesce in pace, padre.

i wanna subscribe to your newsletter but HEEEYY are those Chinese runners yer wearing ?
I bet yer all "Made in America" aren't ya?

/yawn to the pandering
//thanks for explainin it to us

4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I see all the major points have been hit. Good work gentlemen.

400 secret meeting sites for a totalitarian, dictatorial, pedophile ridden organization in the midst of a totalitarian, dictatorial state. Oh the irony of it all.

400 secret "churches"? Jesus that's a lot of ass raped little boys.

Poland, even when it wasn't called poland, has always been a heavily catholic country.

The Polish still talk about how the winged hussars held back the Ottoman Empire on the pope's request over 400 years ago.

It only stands to reason that anyone who allowed Poland to retain its connection to the church, despite communisum and the KGB, would be a folk hero to the Polish.

DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

Being a pedophile is bad enough, do you really think its necessary to go full on NAMBLA cheerleader on fark?

gad: 400 secret meeting sites for a totalitarian, dictatorial, pedophile ridden organization in the midst of a totalitarian, dictatorial state. Oh the irony of it all.

We have a Winnar!

Poland: throwing off the shackles of Naziism and Stalinism to embrace the shackles of Catholicism...

Psycat: DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

I just promoted myself to private first class

Wenchmaster: I generally hew strongly to Kipling's view on the clergy ("Be polite, but not friendly, with bishops. Be kind to all poor parish priests."), but I'll give a tip of my hat to this man for his defiance of communism. Whether or not you agree with his theology, he used his notoriety (from the government's point of view) as a tool to stand up for what he believed in- in the face of a fairly despotic government.

Requiesce in pace, padre.

Bah! Superstitious twaddle -vs- enlightened action.

Bishop who built 400 secret churches in communist Poland passes away. St. Peter widens Pearly Gates to accommodate passage of extra-giant brass balls

/which were frequently touched by boys
//lowest of low hanging fruit

thisisarepeat: Psycat: DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

I just promoted myself to private first class

I used to be Corporal Punishment, but then I promoted myself to General Admission ;)

Psycat: I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

Splitter!

Psycat: thisisarepeat: Psycat: DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

I just promoted myself to private first class

I used to be Corporal Punishment, but then I promoted myself to General Admission ;)

Shoulda been Private Public and General Specific.

geoduck42: Psycat: I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

Splitter!

I'd rather split than swallow.

/sorry, couldn't resist

Psycat: gad: 400 secret meeting sites for a totalitarian, dictatorial, pedophile ridden organization in the midst of a totalitarian, dictatorial state. Oh the irony of it all.

We have a Winnar!

Poland: throwing off the shackles of Naziism and Stalinism to embrace the shackles of Catholicism...

Yeah.  That's what Poland did.  Totally embraced Catholicism out of spite because Nazis and Russians suck.  Right.  Sigh.

I'm an agnostic, my brother is an atheist, my dad is an atheist (and has been my entire life), and all three of us very happily celebrated Christmas Eve without eating meat and breaking wafers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christm as_in_Poland#Wigilia.2C_the_Chri st mas_Eve_supper _).  It's incredibly, incredibly difficult to fully separate being Polish and being Catholic.  If we purged every family tradition that had to do with the church, we'd lose all the important ones.  And while forced religion effing sucks, so does forced atheism, and you should be able to figure out why.

Communist security troops were routinely sent to the churches after they were discovered but, faced with the embarrassing prospect of demolishing a structure built by local volunteers, the authorities frequently gave in.

Pretty awesome, that.

thisisarepeat: I just promoted myself to private first class


Father Wliewoczowicz likes what you did there.

had98c: Psycat: thisisarepeat: Psycat: DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I take offense at that. I'm a card-carrying member of the Smartass Atheist Brigade...

I just promoted myself to private first class

I used to be Corporal Punishment, but then I promoted myself to General Admission ;)

Shoulda been Private Public and General Specific.

There's also Major Major Major Major in Heller's "Catch-22". I always thought Colonel Korn would be pretty funny, too...

And then, of course, there was the submarine with the screen door.....



//Hot links.

No Time To Explain: //lowest of low hanging fruit

Well don't stretch them out so young!

Poor Poland. Talk about a farked up recent history....

Nazi's.

Commies.

Pedophiles.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Psycat: gad: 400 secret meeting sites for a totalitarian, dictatorial, pedophile ridden organization in the midst of a totalitarian, dictatorial state. Oh the irony of it all.

We have a Winnar!

Poland: throwing off the shackles of Naziism and Stalinism to embrace the shackles of Catholicism...

Yeah.  That's what Poland did.  Totally embraced Catholicism out of spite because Nazis and Russians suck.  Right.  Sigh.

I think you're reading too much into my post. Besides, from what I gather about Russia--and probably many of the Warsaw Pact countries--is that they did have a resurgence of Christianity after the fall of the Soviet Union.

DanInKansas: 4 comments in and I thought I'd be in before the ultracool, not at all old-and-busted Grumpy Atheist Brigade, but even three comments in is enough for the thread-shiatters.

I'M DanInKansas AND I'M BRINGING THE YULETIDE CHEER TO THE ATHEISTS

I SAID CHEER YOU DEGENERATES

I actually knew a Major Woody, and to make matters worse he was a fighter pilot.

I've nothing to add so here are some hot Polish women.









/that last one is making the signs of the Devil so it's related to the topic.

Really?
A contractor that builds structures without getting permits?
That's your hero?

I did meet a 10-foot Pole once. His name was Slanislav Wojszczewgrzski and he was the tallest dude in Łódź*.


*pronounced "wooge"

thisisarepeat: I actually knew a Major Woody, and to make matters worse he was a fighter pilot.

When I was stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood, I had a Soldier come through named Private Tickle. He was in the same platoon as Private Smiley. I'm betting they had a rougher than normal Basic.

Why do people continue to confuse acts of stupidity with acts of heroism?

GoldDude: Really?
A contractor that builds structures without getting permits?
That's your hero?

Maybe he wasn't such a bad guy after all.

Just paid $150 for the permit to replace my interior AC unit.

As soon as I find out who is responsible they are going to be added to my list of destinations for my grave pissing tour. Right between Ted Kennedy and Sarah Brady.

had98c: thisisarepeat: I actually knew a Major Woody, and to make matters worse he was a fighter pilot.

When I was stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood, I had a Soldier come through named Private Tickle. He was in the same platoon as Private Smiley. I'm betting they had a rougher than normal Basic.

I don't know how many drill sergeants would want to admit to smoking private smiley. Or dusting off private smiley for that matter.

So building 400 lie factories warrants the hero tag?

Agent Smiths Laugh: So building 400 lie factories warrants the hero tag?

Why not. I mean, everyone still repeats the lie that the Soviet Union was a bastion of atheistic progressive thought, after all.

Drew,

You can't go a single day without a hate speech thread. Stay classy.

BronyMedic: Agent Smiths Laugh: So building 400 lie factories warrants the hero tag?

Why not. I mean, everyone still repeats the lie that the Soviet Union was a bastion of atheistic progressive thought, after all.

Fair point.

Funny how history constantly demonstrates that tyrants will destroy or subvert competitors to their power, and yet people still keep forgetting to recognize it as such.

david_gaithersburg: Drew,

You can't go a single day without a hate speech thread. Stay classy.

Aww. Bless your little heart. You really can't stand it when anyone calls your system of beliefs into question, can you?

You're like the fabled persecuted white man.

david_gaithersburg: Drew,

You can't go a single day without a hate speech thread. Stay classy.

But whose speech is hateful to whom?

I personally despise the idea of "hate speech". There is nothing wrong with hate. It can be useful and justified. Nor is there something wrong with speaking that hate. True freedom of speech should ideally protect one's right to say anything, positive or negative.

Should we give up that right, we take another step closer to the government legally oppressing those who speak against it.

That's the real "red scare" you should fear.

Whereas today Poland prosecutes people for "blasphemy."
Link

generallyso: Whereas today Poland prosecutes people for "blasphemy."
Link

Case in point.

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts david_gaithersburg. Just don't be a hypocrite about it.

wax_on: And how many kids did he diddle while doing it?

It was Poland, so they diddled him.

well, they weren't allowed to build death camps anymore, and something had to be built...

Probably not as wide as the rear ends of the choirboys he probably molested, Subby.

Agent Smiths Laugh: BronyMedic: Agent Smiths Laugh: So building 400 lie factories warrants the hero tag?

Why not. I mean, everyone still repeats the lie that the Soviet Union was a bastion of atheistic progressive thought, after all.

Fair point.

Funny how history constantly demonstrates that tyrants will destroy or subvert competitors to their power, and yet people still keep forgetting to recognize it as such.

Yup.