But as the debate raged over whether to publicize the nation's flaming-auto fetish

Not to be confused with a flaming auto-fetish.

Weird.  I don't remember the Lakers winning another title recently.

We in the U.S. should try to be more progressive like France. I hear anal sex is all the rage there.

Old and busted: Vandalism by listless French youth
New scourge: Vandalism by drunken, listless French youth

Yay socialism.

So France is like Detroit? I don't want to be like Detroit.

Well yeah, 1200 people can afford cars. How dare they be wealthy enough to afford a car! 100% taxes for the rich!

Apos: Old and busted: Vandalism by listless French youth
New scourge: Vandalism by drunken, listless French youth

Looks like the Franco-Arabs have assimilated just fine.

Nothing like rioting to bring a nation together.

Sounds like a parking lot full of Teslas.

I'm pretty sure the French are more hated than Americans in much of the world.

These "youth" have French citizenship, but they aren't part of the French nation, as the word "nation" as been historically understood. They're Africans.

It's Me Bender: These "youth" have French citizenship, but they aren't part of the French nation, as the word "nation" as been historically understood. They're Africans

Or are they young and poor? The article didn't mention much in the way of ethnicity, so I'm not sure how accurate your assumptions are in this case.

It's Me Bender: These "youth" have French citizenship, but they aren't part of the French nation, as the word "nation" as been historically understood. They're Africans.

They should just accept the fact that they will never be as civil as white, Christian French citizens and be happy with their poverty.

TheJoe03: Or are they young and poor?

They're young, poor, and African.

The article didn't mention much in the way of ethnicity,

Yeah, funny how sometimes the media decides ethnicity is newsworthy and sometimes it doesn't. If only there was some kind of rule or pattern to their coverage...

I was going through some old photos on one of my external hard drives two nights ago and found one of those protest photos from ~2006; I think I saved it for potential school projects. I was a little floored to find it and realize that the French seemed to figure out what was going on with the global economy before the rest of us...

Burning a French car. That is doing the world a favor.

Note that "French youths" = african and arab muslims.

And sociologists find another good reason to blather nuanced motivations of disenfranchised youth, loyally parroted by the youth themselves. While in reality, as with the American gun debate, the reasons given are nothing like what really motivates people: burning a car is easy, spectacular, pretty much sanction-less and will drive up your cred with your homies.

TheJoe03: The article didn't mention much in the way of ethnicity, so I'm not sure how accurate your assumptions are in this case

Of course not, this is Europe. Political correctness must be observed.
And he is 100% correct.

massive immigration + social welfare state + no assimilation + 20% unemployment = ?

jtown: Sounds like a parking lot full of Teslas.

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You're thinking of fiskers.

There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

France has ethnically/economically cleansed these people from decent areas to concrete shiatholes beyond the ringroad, out of sight, out of mind, gives them shiatty education then routinely discriminates against them in the employment market. Who'd a thought that trouble would ensue?

TappingTheVein: TheJoe03: The article didn't mention much in the way of ethnicity, so I'm not sure how accurate your assumptions are in this case

Of course not, this is Europe. Political correctness must be observed.
And he is 100% correct.

political correctness is way worse in the US than here in europe. indeed its kind of a newish concept to most of the continent.

"wait, you mean i cant say all turks are hooligans?"
"i'm not allowed to grope the receptionist at the xmas party any more?"
"i cant get drunk on shareholder money at lunch anymore?"

my experience living and working in Germany and Switzerland with colleagues from all over europe, the western EUropeans are way closer to Mad Men era values than the Americans are. so stfu newb.

and, yes, if theyre taking about arson "in the projects at the edge of the cities" these are very heavily populated by Algerians Tunisians Moroccans Senegalese and other people from Frances former (quite extensive) colonial empire who came to france during the post war construction boom as cheap labor / guest workers and have been unemployed since that boom ended in the 70s. Now their kids and their Kids' kids have been (generally speaking of course) living on tax payer subsidy since and have no real chance to break the circle of poverty. Theyre not really French, theyre not really part of the culture their parents or grandparents were born in, theyre sort of in between.

I suppose the american immigrant equivalent would be the mexican communities of E. Los Angeles or something, except those guys at least have a lot more chances to break out since its easier to start small businesses, get vocational degrees or whatever.

in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Enigmamf: jtown: Sounds like a parking lot full of Teslas.

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You're thinking of fiskers.

It's Me Bender: They're young, poor, and African.

So the young poor white folks are fine though, right? Damn savages!

fusillade762: But as the debate raged over whether to publicize the nation's flaming-auto fetish

Not to be confused with a flaming auto-fetish.

Auto-erotic-immolation?

French cars were safe, they said
car fires were a thing of the past, they said

Father_Jack:
in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Yeah, but Europeans don't want them to assimilate, they want to fark back where they came from (that includes the nth generation), and if not, at least go live in the ghettos so we don't have to look at them.

No, I am not kidding, not in the slightest.

spawn73: Father_Jack:
in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Yeah, but Europeans don't want them to assimilate, they want to fark back where they came from (that includes the nth generation), and if not, at least go live in the ghettos so we don't have to look at them.

No, I am not kidding, not in the slightest.

Unlike my fair city, Chicago, which is a model of harmoniously desegregated assimilation.

spawn73: Father_Jack:
in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Yeah, but Europeans don't want them to assimilate, they want to fark back where they came from (that includes the nth generation), and if not, at least go live in the ghettos so we don't have to look at them.

No, I am not kidding, not in the slightest.

Honestly, you can't expect Europe to assimilate any better than the rest of the Old World. Most nations in the Eastern Hemisphere are based on ethnic and/or religious grounds. The Americas, on the other hand, are most made up of immigrants from the Old World. Europeans hate each other, so it's no wonder they happen to be racist towards immigrants and minorities, they have always been.

Feral_and_Preposterous: There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

Nein, wir wollen's net haben. (In English: Not really)

We already pay for much of it, won't get suckered into paying for the rest. Let 'em deal with their own colonial spawn.

/We were lucky nobody gave the Kaiser any colonies
//The Brits took whatever we hade after 1918 and now they have to take all the Tanzanians >=)
///Turks are better, they work hard, learn passable German and bring döner
//// Es lebe die schräggestrichene Türkei!

Father_Jack: in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

You mean, Europeans should learn such assimilation techniques as "Go back to Africa", "Irish need not apply", "We don't need no chink-chink Chinamen takin' ar jerbs", "We've got a nice place for your Japanese family to stay while you die for us, Sgt. Yoshi", "Let's build a fence to keep out the Messicans", and the ever-popular "Sand n---- ain't gonna blow me up"?

...I'm pretty sure they've already got that down.

Father_Jack: my experience living and working in Germany and Switzerland with colleagues from all over europe, the western EUropeans are way closer to Mad Men era values than the Americans are. so stfu newb.

And yet the french refuse to admit that most (if not all) of the "youths" are african/arabs/muslims, at least in news reports and news articles. Same with the riots in Sweden.
I wasn't comparing the US to Europe in that regard, i'm not american, i was stating a fact. Lighten up Francis.

spawn73: Father_Jack:
in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Yeah, but Europeans don't want them to assimilate, they want to fark back where they came from (that includes the nth generation), and if not, at least go live in the ghettos so we don't have to look at them.

No, I am not kidding, not in the slightest.

well, no. You're not really correct in this.

First of all, you're making the bad assumption of thinking that europe regards the issue of immigrant assimilation in a uniform fashion, that the values of europeans are homogenous, that each country in europe has the same set of issues with immigrants... none of this is true obviously.

Here in switzerland for example, a full 30%-35% of the country are foreign, highest anywhere in europe, and they're doing ok with it. the rural communities and nationalists grumble about it but the rest of us who live in the cities and make the money shrug and carry on... its just fun to make fun of all the yugos and albos here.

The Brits are doing pretty well with their communities of immigrants in London, seem to be less successful with the pakistanis and other asians in economically depressed areas in the north... witness the whole tube bombing thing during the latest gulf war.

Germany does pretty well with its turks, less well with the arabs...

8tReAsUrEz: Feral_and_Preposterous: There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

Nein, wir wollen's net haben. (In English: Not really)

We already pay for much of it, won't get suckered into paying for the rest. Let 'em deal with their own colonial spawn.

/We were lucky nobody gave the Kaiser any colonies
//The Brits took whatever we hade after 1918 and now they have to take all the Tanzanians >=)
///Turks are better, they work hard, learn passable German and bring döner
//// Es lebe die schräggestrichene Türkei!

The Turks are also moderately good at killing English and Aussies, which are virtues in my book.

8tReAsUrEz: Feral_and_Preposterous: There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

Nein, wir wollen's net haben. (In English: Not really)

We already pay for much of it, won't get suckered into paying for the rest. Let 'em deal with their own colonial spawn.

/We were lucky nobody gave the Kaiser any colonies
//The Brits took whatever we hade after 1918 and now they have to take all the Tanzanians >=)
///Turks are better, they work hard, learn passable German and bring döner
//// Es lebe die schräggestrichene Türkei!

UK pays for Indians Pakistanis Jamaicans Arabs
FR pays for Algerians and Senegalese
NL pays for Indonesians
DE pays for Sachsen und Brandenburger :)

Wait a second, this isn't /int/.

Father_Jack: DE pays for Sachsen und Brandenburger :)

Oh lawl.

Meh, Detroit is kinda of impressed

Why do they keep letting these immigrants in? If they're all as poor and disaffected as everyone says then they have to be huge burdens on the social programs and the state treasury rather than boons to them. It'd probably just be cheaper to hand money to extant French middle-class families to have more kids rather than making up for the lack of them by bringing in immigrants with zero education or skills and cultural values that don't mesh well with the ones in their new homeland.

I've got the greenlight on this topic for like the past four years (French Youth torching cars), but this year I decided to take a break :)
I'll try again next year when the same exact thing happens.

It's funny how the French just accept this yearly occurrence. Can anyone imagine the utter chaos if this happened in NYC, or Chicago, or L.A. just once, let alone every year?

Father_Jack: 8tReAsUrEz: Feral_and_Preposterous: There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

Nein, wir wollen's net haben. (In English: Not really)

We already pay for much of it, won't get suckered into paying for the rest. Let 'em deal with their own colonial spawn.

/We were lucky nobody gave the Kaiser any colonies
//The Brits took whatever we hade after 1918 and now they have to take all the Tanzanians >=)
///Turks are better, they work hard, learn passable German and bring döner
//// Es lebe die schräggestrichene Türkei!

UK pays for Indians Pakistanis Jamaicans Arabs
FR pays for Algerians and Senegalese
NL pays for Indonesians
DE pays for Sachsen und Brandenburger :)

Und Mecklemmdingsbums (all 3 of 'em) xD

8tReAsUrEz: Father_Jack: 8tReAsUrEz: Feral_and_Preposterous: There's only one solution. Deutschland: have at it; go nuts; you know you want it. Don't fark with the Limeys or Jews or Gypsys and we won't interfere.

Nein, wir wollen's net haben. (In English: Not really)

We already pay for much of it, won't get suckered into paying for the rest. Let 'em deal with their own colonial spawn.

/We were lucky nobody gave the Kaiser any colonies
//The Brits took whatever we hade after 1918 and now they have to take all the Tanzanians >=)
///Turks are better, they work hard, learn passable German and bring döner
//// Es lebe die schräggestrichene Türkei!

UK pays for Indians Pakistanis Jamaicans Arabs
FR pays for Algerians and Senegalese
NL pays for Indonesians
DE pays for Sachsen und Brandenburger :)

Und Mecklemmdingsbums (all 3 of 'em) xD

i thought all the Meck-vopos were in Hamburg and Bremen.

Mitch Mitchell: Burning a French car. That is doing the world a favor.

I was going to say - firewood is about all they're good for.

GF named my left testicle thundercles: massive immigration + social welfare state + no assimilation + 20% unemployment = ?

=1200 cars burned?

Love it or leave it

Ah, are the "youths" enraged in France, again?

You know... the "youths?"

Father_Jack: spawn73: Father_Jack:
in much the way the US can learn a lot from France as far as work life balance and health care, the French can learn a lot from us about immigrant assimilation. Indeed most of europe can.

Yeah, but Europeans don't want them to assimilate, they want to fark back where they came from (that includes the nth generation), and if not, at least go live in the ghettos so we don't have to look at them.

No, I am not kidding, not in the slightest.

well, no. You're not really correct in this.

First of all, you're making the bad assumption of thinking that europe regards the issue of immigrant assimilation in a uniform fashion, that the values of europeans are homogenous, that each country in europe has the same set of issues with immigrants... none of this is true obviously.

Here in switzerland for example, a full 30%-35% of the country are foreign, highest anywhere in europe, and they're doing ok with it. the rural communities and nationalists grumble about it but the rest of us who live in the cities and make the money shrug and carry on... its just fun to make fun of all the yugos and albos here.

The Brits are doing pretty well with their communities of immigrants in London, seem to be less successful with the pakistanis and other asians in economically depressed areas in the north... witness the whole tube bombing thing during the latest gulf war.

Germany does pretty well with its turks, less well with the arabs...

As I understand it though, the Swiss are more thorough in vetting new immigrants than most other countries.

Obviously the only solution is more non-white immigration. That way they can hit critical mass and force white people to assimilate into their culture.

No white people = no racism = no more problems.

This is the only solution I can see.