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   City officials argue over whether to remove stop signs at nonexistent intersection

05 Jan 2013 02:28 PM   |   8240 clicks   |   Minneapolis Star Tribune
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wambu     
That's the way to keep the politician's distracted

05 Jan 2013 12:21 PM
SpikeStrip     
i gotta wood i can bury. because it may as well be dead :(

05 Jan 2013 01:03 PM
Rabbitgod     

SpikeStrip: i gotta wood i can bury. because it may as well be dead :(


So how long have you been married?

05 Jan 2013 02:32 PM
Hoopy Frood     
Woodbury considers removing them, but neighbors say it won't be safe if they no longer have the signs to slow traffic.

If only there was some kind of sign to limit the speed of drivers...

05 Jan 2013 02:33 PM
Thanks for the Meme-ries     
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05 Jan 2013 02:35 PM
Colin O'Scopy     
Heeere's your sign....

05 Jan 2013 02:35 PM
Tourney3p0     

wambu: That's the way to keep the politician's distracted


Holy shiat, here comes an S!

05 Jan 2013 02:38 PM
vice_magnet     
If it was my hometown, the city would want to construct a traffic circle in the former intersection.

05 Jan 2013 02:38 PM
The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men     
Sounds like they should just lower the speed limit along that stretch and install a couple of speed cameras.

05 Jan 2013 02:43 PM
Ecobuckeye    [TotalFark]  
Sounds like white people's problems.

05 Jan 2013 02:44 PM
schwnj     
And here it is...

Link

05 Jan 2013 02:44 PM
leevis    [TotalFark]  
Woodbury? Let the Governor take care of it.

05 Jan 2013 02:44 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     
As usual, dumbass local residents wanting to use traffic control.devices as speed enforcement.

Newsflash yards: stop signs are NOT speed enforcement. Period.

05 Jan 2013 02:46 PM
gingerjet     
I'm glad my hometown is in the news for this instead of another elected official luring children into his car.

05 Jan 2013 02:46 PM
blatz514    [TotalFark]  
Article was too long for a non-story.

05 Jan 2013 02:47 PM
hdhale     
More stupidity in the name of "safety".

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05 Jan 2013 02:56 PM
GreyWolf007     

blatz514: Article was too long for a non-story.


It had to be over 500 words for Jim to get paid for his non-story story.

05 Jan 2013 02:56 PM
sheep snorter     
There must be someone in the area with a nice large rear bumper on their pickup truck to make sure those dangerous signs bend over for the safety of the public.

wife: Honey a stop sign.
husband: shiat!!!! [screeching tires on the pavement]
husband: whos the moptherfarker bastard that put a stop sign at a non-existent intersection??

Next day,
pedestrian: oh look a stop sign. this must be a safe place to cross.
car: thump thump.
police: well you know this is not a cross walk mr pedestrian. See, no lines designating a crosswalk.
police: mr car driver, you really should of stopped, but i am too afraid to write up the town council for leaving these dangerous signs here, so heres you ticket for failure to stop, which the Judge may throw out due to incompetence of the town council and incompetence of the road works.
Police: damn it, time for the bar after this shift.


lawyer: KACHING!!!

05 Jan 2013 02:57 PM
Wolfman Johnny     
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I would never stop at that sign.

05 Jan 2013 02:59 PM
grimlock1972     
Pull the stops signs and put in a lower speed limit , problem solved.

05 Jan 2013 02:59 PM
jagarr     
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/haat


05 Jan 2013 03:03 PM
not2conceited     
I live 1 block from that stop sign. There is a blind driveway just over the crest of the hill and 16 year olds like to jump their cars there too. Keep the sign or lower the hill to make it less dangerous.

/DNRTFA

05 Jan 2013 03:08 PM
brantgoose    [TotalFark]  
Ah, a debate on the usefulness of virtual intersections. How interesting. The residents may have a point.

Brantgoose modestly proposes:  Replace the non-existent intersection with a virtual school or hospital. Set up a fake crosswalk with some dummy children and a dummy Crossing guard. Park some fake police cars around the neighborhood.

It's all good in the name of traffic-slowing in middle class residential areas.

Well, maybe not a hospital. Somebody might need medical care some day and looking for a non-existent hospital would waste time and possibly result in harm and lawsuits.

Wonder why they don't put up Quiet! Library! signs like they do with hospitals? It might work!

05 Jan 2013 03:09 PM
offmymeds     

Hoopy Frood: Woodbury considers removing them, but neighbors say it won't be safe if they no longer have the signs to slow traffic.

If only there was some kind of sign to limit the speed of drivers...


That...that's just crazy talk!

05 Jan 2013 03:10 PM
hdhale     

not2conceited: I live 1 block from that stop sign. There is a blind driveway just over the crest of the hill and 16 year olds like to jump their cars there too. Keep the sign or lower the hill to make it less dangerous.

/DNRTFA


Looking at things on Google Maps, unless that blind alley is also camouflaged, there isn't shiat over the crest of that hill except trees on both sides of the road. Then again, the pics could have been taken before said alley existed. Still, lowering the speed limit fixes the problem, assuming that there is even a problem.

05 Jan 2013 03:18 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

grimlock1972: Pull the stops signs and put in a lower speed limit , problem solved.


That generally doesn't work either. Drivers (in general) drive at the speed in which they feel comfortable driving, which is why speed limits are (in theory) set partly based on driver behavior. Posting a lower speed sign without 1) changing the design parameters of the road (lane width, shoulder width, lane markings, speed bumps, etc...) or 2) increased enforcement, will likely not change the actual traffic speeds at all.

There are two ways to slow people down: 1) physical engineering, such as making a 40 degree curve in a previously straight road, or adding speed tables, and 2) speed monitoring and enforcement.

Signage by and large does nothing to change traffic speeds.

05 Jan 2013 03:20 PM
Mogani     
other then the driveway at the bottom of the hill i don't see a problem here with removing the stop sign. doesn't look like really anything of interest across the road there other then some woods. if there were some businesses or some more houses directly across instead of woods it might be an issue of crossing. if it is that big of an issue have them lower the speed limit in that stretch.

05 Jan 2013 03:21 PM
SpaceBison     
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05 Jan 2013 03:35 PM
Perducci     
I bet that there are only a couple of local residents trying to keep the signs, but who are being loud and obnoxious about it. Maybe this city should offer them a deal: either we remove the signs and post occasional speed traps on the street OR we leave the signs but don't guarantee that traffic cops will ever be assigned to the area.

05 Jan 2013 03:36 PM
churlish moldwarp     

schwnj: And here it is...

Link


So did the Google car stop?

05 Jan 2013 04:07 PM
lunkhed     
Old geezer wants all traffic to stop outside his house to let him drive out - whether or not he's coming out.

Fair point, also stay off his lawn.

05 Jan 2013 04:33 PM
SomeoneDumb    [TotalFark]  
Not that I ever thought about it before, but I can't think of a reason why stop signs need to be limited to intersections. There could, conceivably, be other reasons to want traffic to stop or to make drivers feel momentarily guilty or thrilled by just blowing through them.

05 Jan 2013 05:54 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom     

SomeoneDumb: Not that I ever thought about it before, but I can't think of a reason why stop signs need to be limited to intersections. There could, conceivably, be other reasons to want traffic to stop or to make drivers feel momentarily guilty or thrilled by just blowing through them.


There aren't other reasons that don't already have measures in place.

05 Jan 2013 06:22 PM
Frehar     
We only had enough money for the stop sign.
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05 Jan 2013 06:48 PM
foxyshadis     

SomeoneDumb: Not that I ever thought about it before, but I can't think of a reason why stop signs need to be limited to intersections. There could, conceivably, be other reasons to want traffic to stop or to make drivers feel momentarily guilty or thrilled by just blowing through them.


I thought that was the whole point of speed bumps, actually. Most people slow down to 2 mph to crest them, especially the rice rockets. Who then floor it to the next one.

/Some real doozies here, but my car is so beat to hell that I just ignore them.
//Stop signs just piss people off. Everyone floors it after one.

05 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
lack of warmth     
Wah, wah, I don't like the busy road near my house. THEN MOVE!!

I have seen much worse driveways verses busy fast roads than this.

foxyshadis: I thought that was the whole point of speed bumps, actually. Most people slow down to 2 mph to crest them, especially the rice rockets. Who then floor it to the next one.


There is a road in Grand Blanc, MI that has speed bumps to keep traffic speed down to residential. I keep it at 15mph on that road just so I don't have to slow down for the bumps, regardless of the impatient driver behind me that wants to race to the next bump. The stretch is only a half mile, so completely pointless to rush.

05 Jan 2013 09:25 PM
kazikian     
Solution: stop building subdivisions.

05 Jan 2013 11:38 PM
Scorpio Rex     

schwnj: And here it is...

Link


It looks like some prankster uprooted a sign from its designated intersection and randomly stuck on the side of the road.

06 Jan 2013 10:35 AM
Joe_diGriz     

Scorpio Rex: schwnj: And here it is...

Link

It looks like some prankster uprooted a sign from its designated intersection and randomly stuck on the side of the road.


"Nobody puts a stop sign at the top of this hill. Some idiot went out to the Army/Navy store, bought himself a stop sign and sits there with spy glasses saying 'Martha, we caught another one'" (probably not exact quote)

06 Jan 2013 02:19 PM
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