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   Four people dead in hostage situation/shootout in Aurora, CO. Sadly, this is NOT a repeat

05 Jan 2013 04:01 PM   |   12670 clicks   |   NBC News
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Grand_Moff_Joseph    [TotalFark]  
But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

05 Jan 2013 01:47 PM
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CruiserTwelve    [TotalFark]  
That guy in the picture is somebody we all know and love.

05 Jan 2013 01:49 PM
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vpb    [TotalFark]  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Like the creepy attraction to weapons that psychos have?

05 Jan 2013 02:01 PM
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vudutek    [TotalFark]  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.

05 Jan 2013 02:05 PM
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EatenTheSun    [TotalFark]  
Evil is something that your average person, gun owner or not, doesn't engage in.

05 Jan 2013 02:16 PM
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vpb    [TotalFark]  

vudutek: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.


Or the interaction between the two.

Why are many people including police officers able to be safe with a revolver or a shotgun that doesn't hold more than 6 rounds?

Why is it that some people fear that they are in deathly peril if they can't have a large capacity magazine in a semi automatic weapon, while 2/3 of the population survive just fine with no firearms at all?

What if there was some sort of symptom of persecutory delusional disorder?  Perhaps hoarding a certain type of object?  Something that they were so dependent on that they would do anything to keep it, make any sort of irrational argument.  Even threaten violence if someone were to come between them and the precious?

If you could identify a certain type of object that that insecure violent people would fixate on, you would be well on your way to understanding the link to mental illness and gun violence.

05 Jan 2013 03:25 PM
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GAT_00     
I'm sure glad this still isn't time to talk about guns.

05 Jan 2013 03:38 PM
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vudutek    [TotalFark]  

GAT_00: I'm sure glad this still isn't time to talk about guns.


And it never will be.

05 Jan 2013 03:56 PM
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Loud_Mouth_Soup     

vpb: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Like the creepy attraction to weapons that psychos Americans have?



Also works.

05 Jan 2013 04:03 PM
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MorePeasPlease     

GAT_00: I'm sure glad this still isn't time to talk about guns.


Let's talk about them on Fark-that'll be productive!

05 Jan 2013 04:04 PM
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Chinchillazilla     
The only thing that stops a bad psycho with a gun is a good psycho with a gun, so we have to let mentally ill people own whatever weapons they want.

05 Jan 2013 04:04 PM
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Waxing_Chewbacca     

vpb: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Like the creepy attraction to weapons that psychos have?


Bingo

05 Jan 2013 04:04 PM
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Nina_Hartley's_Ass     

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Nobody brought it up in the mama bear thread.

05 Jan 2013 04:04 PM
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MorePeasPlease     

vpb: Like the creepy attraction to weapons Ellen Degeneres that psychos I have?


Fixed that for me.

05 Jan 2013 04:06 PM
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Jon iz teh kewl     
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it's a designated rape zone, yo

05 Jan 2013 04:06 PM
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SN1987a goes boom     

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Not that mental health isn't an important issue, but what part of that article gave you any inclination as to the shooter's frame of mind? Sure, you are free to guess about it all you want, but there doesn't appear to be any indication that the shooter was anything more than a criminal as yet.

05 Jan 2013 04:08 PM
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skinink     
The NRA solution for this type of shooting is for the Federal government to post armed guards in every house.

05 Jan 2013 04:08 PM
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Fano     

Chinchillazilla: The only thing that stops a bad psycho with a gun is a good psycho with a gun, so we have to let mentally ill people own whatever weapons they want.


Who's the man with the golden gun?
Who's the man who kills for fun?
Psycho Dad! Psycho Dad.

05 Jan 2013 04:09 PM
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had98c     

vudutek: GAT_00: I'm sure glad this still isn't time to talk about guns.

And it never will be.


And when guns actually do get discussed, we get nowhere. So what's the point of even bringing it up anymore?

05 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
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Prebsoltoo     
So things are improving?

05 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
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MorePeasPlease     
Gunn porn thread?

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05 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
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Bit'O'Gristle     
I'm really glad that the people in the house had guns, and were able to effectively take out this scumbag before everyone in the house were gunned down like tied down sheep.


/oh wait...they didn't and they were.
//please continue

05 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
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Mark Ratner    [TotalFark]  
We should ban hostages, and then things like this wouldn't happen.

05 Jan 2013 04:11 PM
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d23    [TotalFark]  
who do we arm next to prevent this?

05 Jan 2013 04:11 PM
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BeerGraduate     
Mel?

05 Jan 2013 04:12 PM
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WhoopAssWayne     
I wonder what the liberal fascists will try to ban this time. They're already working on 2nd amendment and also the 1st with "violent" video games. How about the 3rd this time? You know, if more soldiers could commandeer homes, tragedies like this wouldn't happen as often. Think of the children and ban the 3rd amendment! No tragedy should remain unexploited!

05 Jan 2013 04:12 PM
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PowerSlacker     
Typical family murder-suicide is typical.

*yawn*

05 Jan 2013 04:12 PM
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Infernalist    [TotalFark]  
This is what happens when you take God out of hostage negotiations.

05 Jan 2013 04:13 PM
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Perverted Idiotic Nobleman     

vudutek: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.


Stupidity is thinking that taking away guns will solve the completely problem.

05 Jan 2013 04:13 PM
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Fart_Machine     

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Has there been any determination the suspect had prior mental health issues?

05 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
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duffblue     
Is this the thread where we assume a bunch things and then the facts come out later but the trolls are already on a roll? I can't wait!


Adam Lanza used stolen weapons, let's retroactively criminalize everyone who doesn't piss their pants at the thought of tools.

05 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
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Infernalist    [TotalFark]  
Clearly, this could have been easily avoided if everyone in the house was armed with ED-209s.

/you have 20 seconds to comply
//you must wait 60 seconds to reply

05 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
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here to help     
So the gun nuts new war cry is "BUT WE SHOULDZ BE LOOKING INTO MENTAL HEALTH!!1" and acting as if that was somehow never suggested by the gun control advocates before?

Wow... just... wow.

05 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
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HaywoodJablonski     
The Dark Knight Rises? As usual, the sequel fails to live up to the hype

05 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
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volodya     
Clearly the answer to these situations is.....more guns!

05 Jan 2013 04:15 PM
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duffblue     

vudutek: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.


Because mentally healthy people don't shoot up schools.

05 Jan 2013 04:15 PM
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Duke_leto_Atredes     

Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.


Thank You

this needs to be item ONE for Obama

05 Jan 2013 04:15 PM
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Waxing_Chewbacca     

Bit'O'Gristle: I'm really glad that the people in the house had guns, and were able to effectively take out this scumbag before everyone in the house were gunned down like tied down sheep.


/oh wait...they didn't and they were.
//please continue


Exactly!!!' Everyone from birth to death should be heavily armed. Then we'd all be safe! Yippee.

05 Jan 2013 04:16 PM
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Infernalist    [TotalFark]  
That'll teach those people to go to bed at 3am unarmed!

05 Jan 2013 04:17 PM
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Amos Quito     

Perverted Idiotic Nobleman: Stupidity is thinking that taking away guns will solve the completely problem.



Can the completely problem ever be solved?

/Rhetorical question, I know

05 Jan 2013 04:17 PM
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Mock26     
What type of gun was used?

05 Jan 2013 04:17 PM
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Loud_Mouth_Soup     

Bit'O'Gristle: I'm really glad that the people in the house had guns, and were able to effectively take out this scumbag before everyone in the house were gunned down like tied down sheep.


/oh wait...they didn't and they were.
//please continue



You should get in touch with the police since you seem to be so familiar with the situation. Also, do you know which room I just walked in to?

05 Jan 2013 04:17 PM
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Surpheon     
Better regulation of guns would reduce these kinds of events, period. Anyone arguing otherwise is simply denying documented reality (those crazy bastards in Australia offer the most recent example).

But, benefits of universal gun ownership would be lost. Not sure what those are, but that's where the argument should be. Anyone arguing that gun control 'can't work to stop gun violence' is a mindless zealot you should ignore as thoroughly as a member of Westboro Baptist. But if they start asking why politicians tend to like having bodyguards who carry guns around, well that's a point for us to debate.

The benefits of gun ownership may outweigh the rare, if horrific, spectacle of a pile of dead kindergartners. That's the debate rational folks should be having.

05 Jan 2013 04:18 PM
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Bit'O'Gristle     
Story 1.

1. family is at home having dinner
2. Gunman comes in and threatens to kill everyone.
3. No way to defend yourself, due to no guns in the house
4. One member of the family gets away, alerting police
5. gunman sees police, kills everyone in the house like sheep
6. cops charge in and gun the shooter until he dies from it.

story 2.

1. family is at home having dinner
2. gunman comes in and threatens to kill everyone
3. Dad goes for his gun and blows the gunmans head off
4 Dad calls the cops, and they show up with the meat wagon.
5. Family finishes dinner.


/ya ya, i know its not that clear cut, and even with a gun or guns in the house, you still have a chance at getting killed. But...at least you would have a chance at defending your family. And its a better chance than having nothing and just getting shot like a dog.

05 Jan 2013 04:18 PM
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TheHappyCanadian     

Perverted Idiotic Nobleman: vudutek: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.

Stupidity is thinking that taking away guns will solve the completely problem.


stupidity is thinking that "better regulation of guns" means "ZOMG SOCIALISTBONGO BE TAKIN' MY ROCKIT LONCHER"

05 Jan 2013 04:18 PM
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Infernalist    [TotalFark]  
Maybe if they'd kept their dog armed, this wouldn't have happened.

05 Jan 2013 04:18 PM
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Muta     
He could have drowned them in a pool.

05 Jan 2013 04:19 PM
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Mock26     

vudutek: Grand_Moff_Joseph: But god forbid we talk about mental health issues...that would be evil.

Please, explain. Why have these gun-related issues become a discussion ONLY about mental health? Why not discuss mental health programs AND better regulation of guns? And, if mental health is SO important, why are mental health programs being cut to the bone by just about every governmental agency around?

Evil is thinking that more guns is the answer. Evil is thinking that bulletproof clothing for schoolkids is the answer.


What additional regulation would you have? As it is now the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and will never use their guns to commit a crime. Only a handful of legal gun owners ever use their legally purchased guns to commit a crime. And with that being said, what regulation would you enact to prevent them from doing so? You are saying that we need better regulation of guns, so give us your suggestions. Tell us what regulation would have prevented this incident.

05 Jan 2013 04:19 PM
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here to help     

Duke_leto_Atredes: Thank You

this needs to be item ONE for Obama


Too bad his original healthcare plan that WOULD have made access to mental help easier got flushed down the toilet, right? Too bad about that... huh? Eh? Hello?

Yeah.

05 Jan 2013 04:19 PM
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aearra     
Another day in america. Another mass murder. Another shoot out. Another day full of sound and fury signifying nothing as america does nothing to solve the situation but whine. Another day where nobody outside of the us cares.

05 Jan 2013 04:20 PM
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