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19 Jan 2013 01:37 AM   |   2278 clicks   |   Omaha World Herald
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19 Jan 2013 01:47 AM
Insatiable Jesus     
I came up in NE, we used to get paid by the local Conklin store for bringing in left ears of coyotes. Bought many a plastic model kit from the Ben Franklin store at 2pm, paid for with ears we took that morning.

/pro-gun control
//still anti-coyote

19 Jan 2013 01:48 AM
Moriel     
From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?


22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.

19 Jan 2013 01:55 AM
ArcadianRefugee     

Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.


Tell us how you really feel.

19 Jan 2013 01:59 AM
hundreddollarman    [TotalFark]  
WIth AR-15s, amirite?

19 Jan 2013 02:04 AM
Moriel     

ArcadianRefugee: Tell us how you really feel.


No. If I did that it would endanger Fark's reputation as a family friendly website.

19 Jan 2013 02:04 AM
Insatiable Jesus     

Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.


Do you know how I know you've never been on a ranch?

19 Jan 2013 02:04 AM
brandent     

Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.


I'm guessing you aren't for the 100 in SD then either.

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19 Jan 2013 02:07 AM
Moriel     

Insatiable Jesus: Do you know how I know you've never been on a ranch?


Do you know how I know you're wrong?

/anti gun-control
//still pro-coyote, pro-wolf, pro-cougar, etc.

19 Jan 2013 02:09 AM
Omahawg     
I saw one of those 'round here once, eyeballing me from the other side of a 30 foot gulley out in the hills.

I says to myself "hey, that's a big bobcat! what in the wide world of sports is a.....uh......bobcats don't have long tails. um"

that sure was a big old cat and he went his way casting glances back over his tawny shoulder at me while I went mine, stumbling backwards back out of the woods.

there's enough white-tail just around metro omaha to support 2 or 3 of 'em, I'd wager, and considering how many deer i dodge every night I'm glad to have them back around.

farkin' deer with their herdin' up and daring one another to jump out in front of cars. that's a sick game, man.

19 Jan 2013 02:11 AM
TerminalEchoes     

Omahawg: I saw one of those 'round here once, eyeballing me from the other side of a 30 foot gulley out in the hills.

I says to myself "hey, that's a big bobcat! what in the wide world of sports is a.....uh......bobcats don't have long tails. um"

that sure was a big old cat and he went his way casting glances back over his tawny shoulder at me while I went mine, stumbling backwards back out of the woods.

there's enough white-tail just around metro omaha to support 2 or 3 of 'em, I'd wager, and considering how many deer i dodge every night I'm glad to have them back around.

farkin' deer with their herdin' up and daring one another to jump out in front of cars. that's a sick game, man.


Having been to Fontenelle Forest several times, I know there are enough wild turkeys there to support a legion of mountain lions.

19 Jan 2013 02:20 AM
Intelligent_Donkey    [TotalFark]  
We saw tracks on my land south of Lincoln a few years back. I doubt anyone shot it, it kept the deer off the roads.

19 Jan 2013 02:23 AM
Intelligent_Donkey    [TotalFark]  
Also, there's a barbwire fence running along the western border of the state? Since when? Is it to keep the douchebags in CO?

19 Jan 2013 02:24 AM
HotWingAgenda    [TotalFark]  

TerminalEchoes: a legion of mountain lions.


Bear cavalry... penguin army... mountain lion paratroopers?

19 Jan 2013 02:24 AM
Insatiable Jesus     
A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

19 Jan 2013 02:28 AM
DarkSoulNoHope     
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19 Jan 2013 02:35 AM
HotWingAgenda    [TotalFark]  

Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.


Like how to build a house with a door that locks? How to use electricity? How to get back in the car when you see a lion? How to set up farmer's insurance for livestock?

How to scare away a mountain lion?

19 Jan 2013 02:43 AM
MurphyMurphy     

HotWingAgenda: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Like how to build a house with a door that locks? How to use electricity? How to get back in the car when you see a lion? How to set up farmer's insurance for livestock?

How to scare away a mountain lion?


Login: Insatiable Jesus
Fark account number: 809157
Account created: 2012-08-22 22:16:11

Jesus in the username? check
Account created less than 6mo ago? check
Argument rests on "founding fathers" or "forefathers"? check

I'm not saying you got trolled,

but you got trolled.

19 Jan 2013 02:49 AM
Mitch Mitchell     
I would like to see them around. I think they have a legitamate place in the North American food chain. And also...you can't yell "get in the car, it's a cow".

19 Jan 2013 02:50 AM
Deman     

HotWingAgenda: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Like how to build a house with a door that locks? How to use electricity? How to get back in the car when you see a lion? How to set up farmer's insurance for livestock?

How to scare away a mountain lion?


I love how at the end of every device description it states it hasn't been proven to work on lions

19 Jan 2013 02:57 AM
Insatiable Jesus     

MurphyMurphy: HotWingAgenda: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Like how to build a house with a door that locks? How to use electricity? How to get back in the car when you see a lion? How to set up farmer's insurance for livestock?

How to scare away a mountain lion?

Login: Insatiable Jesus
Fark account number: 809157
Account created: 2012-08-22 22:16:11

Jesus in the username? check
Account created less than 6mo ago? check
Argument rests on "founding fathers" or "forefathers"? check

I'm not saying you got trolled,

but you got trolled.


I'm not a troll. I spent some of my best years on a ranch in the Sandhills so big that it wasn't even fenced on two sides. I've shot hundreds of coyotes and would have made it my mission had I heard of a mountain lion.

19 Jan 2013 02:59 AM
Moriel     

Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion human is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans mountain lions, given the chance. The more mountain lions humans, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators competition, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not correct their mistakes.


Ah! Much better. :)

19 Jan 2013 03:02 AM
Insatiable Jesus     

Moriel: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion human is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans mountain lions, given the chance. The more mountain lions humans, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators competition, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not correct their mistakes.

Ah! Much better. :)


One mountain lion, no vote.

19 Jan 2013 03:07 AM
KrispyKritter     

Mitch Mitchell: I would like to see them around. I think they have a legitamate place in the North American food chain. And also...you can't yell "get in the car, it's a cow".


You may have very well have just done what few have accomplished: caused Gary Larson to set down his coffee cup, inspired.

19 Jan 2013 03:08 AM
Insatiable Jesus     

KrispyKritter: Mitch Mitchell: I would like to see them around. I think they have a legitamate place in the North American food chain. And also...you can't yell "get in the car, it's a cow".

You may have very well have just done what few have accomplished: caused Gary Larson to set down his coffee cup, inspired.


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19 Jan 2013 03:18 AM
tinfoil-hat maggie    [TotalFark]  

Omahawg: I saw one of those 'round here once, eyeballing me from the other side of a 30 foot gulley out in the hills.

I says to myself "hey, that's a big bobcat! what in the wide world of sports is a.....uh......bobcats don't have long tails. um"

that sure was a big old cat and he went his way casting glances back over his tawny shoulder at me while I went mine, stumbling backwards back out of the woods.

there's enough white-tail just around metro omaha to support 2 or 3 of 'em, I'd wager, and considering how many deer i dodge every night I'm glad to have them back around.

farkin' deer with their herdin' up and daring one another to jump out in front of cars. that's a sick game, man.


Ya, know deer are tasty treats when cooked right, so ... Do your part : )

/Only thing I've killed a deer with was a '67 mustang, didn't even leave a dent, put it in my trunk and took it to my friends house to be cooked up, yum ; )

19 Jan 2013 03:57 AM
Ilmarinen     
At least 20 people in North America were killed by cougars between 1890 and 2011 (Link)

Truly America's greatest monster.

19 Jan 2013 03:57 AM
Andulamb     
We kill off the cougars and the wolves and the bears, and then we biatch about all the deer.

We kill off the cougars and the wolves and the bears because they pose too great a risk to human life, and then because life is too boring we jump out of planes and off bridges and ski down mountains and drive well over the speed limit and run red lights and drink and smoke and inject and pop pills.

Humans are all kind of retarded.

19 Jan 2013 04:08 AM
Nogale     

Insatiable Jesus: I came up in NE, we used to get paid by the local Conklin store for bringing in left ears of coyotes. Bought many a plastic model kit from the Ben Franklin store at 2pm, paid for with ears we took that morning.

/pro-gun control
//still anti-coyote


Why? What use did they have for the ears? And what did you do with the rest of the coyotes - just leave the carcasses to rot?

19 Jan 2013 04:54 AM
Ilmarinen     

Nogale: Insatiable Jesus: I came up in NE, we used to get paid by the local Conklin store for bringing in left ears of coyotes. Bought many a plastic model kit from the Ben Franklin store at 2pm, paid for with ears we took that morning.

/pro-gun control
//still anti-coyote

Why? What use did they have for the ears? And what did you do with the rest of the coyotes - just leave the carcasses to rot?


A tally of ears is sometimes demanded as proof that the work is done.

19 Jan 2013 05:02 AM
cynicalbastard     

Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.


Your forefathers also spent enormous energy in pretending that the issue of slavery was a, not a problem, b, never going to be a problem, and c, anyone who said it was a problem was the problem. And clearcutting all the trees in an area was a really good way to provide farmland and would never backfire on them. And single-crop agriculture was the way to go, just kick more natives off land when the soil got exhausted.

19 Jan 2013 05:11 AM
Lerxst2k     

Andulamb: We kill off the cougars and the wolves and the bears, and then we biatch about all the deer.

We kill off the cougars and the wolves and the bears because they pose too great a risk to human life, and then because life is too boring we jump out of planes and off bridges and ski down mountains and drive well over the speed limit and run red lights and drink and smoke and inject and pop pills.

Humans are all kind of retarded.


I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

19 Jan 2013 05:14 AM
Insatiable Jesus     

cynicalbastard: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Your forefathers also spent enormous energy in pretending that the issue of slavery was a, not a problem, b, never going to be a problem, and c, anyone who said it was a problem was the problem. And clearcutting all the trees in an area was a really good way to provide farmland and would never backfire on them. And single-crop agriculture was the way to go, just kick more natives off land when the soil got exhausted.


Nebraska was NEVER a slave state.

19 Jan 2013 05:20 AM
david_gaithersburg     

hundreddollarman: WIth AR-15s, amirite?


.
Nah, an AR-15 is more designed for killing so-called-fascists-progressives from a distance. Don't want to risk getting to close to those diseased things.

19 Jan 2013 05:20 AM
Omahawg     

Insatiable Jesus: cynicalbastard: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Your forefathers also spent enormous energy in pretending that the issue of slavery was a, not a problem, b, never going to be a problem, and c, anyone who said it was a problem was the problem. And clearcutting all the trees in an area was a really good way to provide farmland and would never backfire on them. And single-crop agriculture was the way to go, just kick more natives off land when the soil got exhausted.

Nebraska was NEVER a slave state.


no, it was a slave territory. nebraska city, especially. not like us good iowans. no, never like us you backwards cornshuckers. now go bow down to lincoln and worship your tom osborne god, freak

19 Jan 2013 05:43 AM
SwiftFox     

cynicalbastard: Insatiable Jesus: A mountain lion is a predator. A predator which will prey upon humans, given the chance. The more mountain lions, the more chances of attacks. Our forefathers spent enormous energy in ridding this country of predators, to let them come back is to pretend you know something that they did not.

Your forefathers also spent enormous energy in pretending that the issue of slavery was a, not a problem, b, never going to be a problem, and c, anyone who said it was a problem was the problem. And clearcutting all the trees in an area was a really good way to provide farmland and would never backfire on them. And single-crop agriculture was the way to go, just kick more natives off land when the soil got exhausted.


Not bad, cynicalbastard. I'd give that IJ's score times three, whatever that was.

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19 Jan 2013 06:25 AM
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19 Jan 2013 06:37 AM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost    [TotalFark]  

Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.


22 is the number of cats living in the one region, not the entire state. Depending on the size of the area, it could be a problem.
Before you work up too much outrage, you might want to finish the article.

19 Jan 2013 07:47 AM
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19 Jan 2013 07:49 AM
Rat     
I expect uncle Jimbo is gonna find them an imminent threat.

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19 Jan 2013 08:44 AM
onyxruby     

Moriel: 22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.


Cougars are different from wolves, bears and most other predators in that can and will actively hunt humans. By way of point there have been only 2 cases of wolves killing humans in all of North America ever. Cougars average just under one human kill per year.

This doesn't take into account all of the pets and livestock that they kill. In fact a mass disappearance of pets is usually one of the first signs that a cougar has moved into an area. It's more of a problem when cougars start moving back into suburban areas (I have personally had a sighting of one that was DNR confirmed in the Twin Cities). Practical advice like this is why people get excited about cougars and police officers shoot cougars near schools on sight.

If you live in potential lion territory

Don't allow children to play alone outdoors or walk to or from the bus stop
Don't leave pets outdoors
Don't feed pets or other prey animals (such as raccoons and deer) outdoors, as both the food and the animals may attract lions
Don't go outdoors for long periods or at the same time every day

19 Jan 2013 08:48 AM
chuggernaught     

onyxruby: Moriel: 22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.

Cougars are different from wolves, bears and most other predators in that can and will actively hunt humans. By way of point there have been only 2 cases of wolves killing humans in all of North America ever. Cougars average just under one human kill per year.

This doesn't take into account all of the pets and livestock that they kill. In fact a mass disappearance of pets is usually one of the first signs that a cougar has moved into an area. It's more of a problem when cougars start moving back into suburban areas (I have personally had a sighting of one that was DNR confirmed in the Twin Cities). Practical advice like this is why people get excited about cougars and police officers shoot cougars near schools on sight.

If you live in potential lion territory

Don't allow children to play alone outdoors or walk to or from the bus stop
Don't leave pets outdoors
Don't feed pets or other prey animals (such as raccoons and deer) outdoors, as both the food and the animals may attract lions
Don't go outdoors for long periods or at the same time every day


Mountain lions don't actively hunt humans. They actively hunt prey in their territories. Attacks on humans usually come from a person being in the wrong place at the wrong time and a hungry cat finding them. It's not like they intentionally prowl around neighborhoods looking for a human specifically.

19 Jan 2013 10:04 AM
onyxruby     

chuggernaught: Mountain lions don't actively hunt humans. They actively hunt prey in their territories. Attacks on humans usually come from a person being in the wrong place at the wrong time and a hungry cat finding them. It's not like they intentionally prowl around neighborhoods looking for a human specifically.


Very true, however if a human happens to be in that wrong place at the wrong time the mountain lion is /far/ more likely to attack than a bear or a wolf. The other problem is that male mountain lions have very large territories that can easily include metropolitan areas. You can be in their territory just by being in your backyard. When I saw mine it was in a suburban city of 70,000 just a block from my house.

19 Jan 2013 10:14 AM
BGates     
Mtn lion taste great.

Generally there are far more then people think.

19 Jan 2013 11:15 AM
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19 Jan 2013 12:44 PM
Moriel     

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.

22 is the number of cats living in the one region, not the entire state. Depending on the size of the area, it could be a problem.
Before you work up too much outrage, you might want to finish the article.


I did finish the article sweeheart. In fact, i quoted it.

But the article online today is very different from the article that was online last night.

From the current article, right at the top: Published Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 1:00 am / Updated at 12:45 pm

The new one is about 3 times longer and provides a lot more detail. The original claimed that there were 22 cougars in the whole state, not in one small porition, and the original article made no mention of biological studies or environmental impacts from wildfires. So apparently the real situation is very different from how it was originally presented. (Some editor needs to get reamed for letting the first article be published at all.)

Oh well. The new information tones down my reaction, but does not change my fundamental stance. Humanity still has no right to "manage" the populations of other species while refusing to manage its own. I reject anthropocentrism, in fact. Humanity is not inherently superior to other species and we have no more right to subjugate them than they have a right to subjugate us. The arrogance and narcissism of anthrpocentrism is what has led us to the brink of environmental catatrophe today, and this proposed cougar hunting is just another small example.

19 Jan 2013 02:32 PM
Thorny     

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.

22 is the number of cats living in the one region, not the entire state. Depending on the size of the area, it could be a problem.
Before you work up too much outrage, you might want to finish the article.


The region in question is the only one in the state where there are females so there might be less than 10 female mountain lions in the state.

19 Jan 2013 08:05 PM
Thorny     

Moriel: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Moriel: From the Article:
Sam Wilson, Game and Parks carnivore manager, told commissioners at their meeting Friday in Omaha that the state's estimated permanent population of 22 cats is large enough for a "limited harvest."

22?

22?

Twenty farking Two ?!?!?

22 cougars in the entire state. 1,855,525 humans. But it's the cougars that are out of control and need to be slaughtered? BULLshiat!

Anyone who murders a cougar in Nebraska is a monster who deserves the death penalty for it.

22 is the number of cats living in the one region, not the entire state. Depending on the size of the area, it could be a problem.
Before you work up too much outrage, you might want to finish the article.

I did finish the article sweeheart. In fact, i quoted it.

But the article online today is very different from the article that was online last night.

From the current article, right at the top: Published Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 1:00 am / Updated at 12:45 pm

The new one is about 3 times longer and provides a lot more detail. The original claimed that there were 22 cougars in the whole state, not in one small porition, and the original article made no mention of biological studies or environmental impacts from wildfires. So apparently the real situation is very different from how it was originally presented. (Some editor needs to get reamed for letting the first article be published at all.)

Oh well. The new information tones down my reaction, but does not change my fundamental stance. Humanity still has no right to "manage" the populations of other species while refusing to manage its own. I reject anthropocentrism, in fact. Humanity is not inherently superior to other species and we have no more right to subjugate them than they have a right to subjugate us. The arrogance and narcissism of anthrpocentrism is what has led us to the brink of environmental catatrophe today, and this proposed cougar hunting is just another small example.


Eh, actually the new information makes it worse. Mountain lions are not old growth forest specialists. Deer do best in early forest succession. They want to open up hunting on mountain lions right before deer are likely to have a population explosion.

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