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   Counties' plan to end homelessness starts with evicting families out of their homes

19 Jan 2013 07:41 PM   |   7187 clicks   |   Baltimore Sun
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simplicimus     
"...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

19 Jan 2013 04:17 PM
PhiloeBedoe    [TotalFark]  
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19 Jan 2013 04:46 PM
xanadian    [TotalFark]  
FTFA: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

"Beware of the Leopard."

19 Jan 2013 05:14 PM
fusillade762    [TotalFark]  

simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.


Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

19 Jan 2013 06:26 PM
gameshowhost     

fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?


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It's a beautification project.

19 Jan 2013 07:27 PM
RedPhoenix122    [TotalFark]  
Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.

19 Jan 2013 07:43 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores     

gameshowhost: It's a beautification project.


Howard County. Explains it all.

19 Jan 2013 07:44 PM
simplicimus     

RedPhoenix122: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.


Hitchhiker Guide's reference?

19 Jan 2013 07:44 PM
Molavian     

simplicimus: RedPhoenix122: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.

Hitchhiker Guide's reference?


Go up a few more posts, too.

19 Jan 2013 07:45 PM
Gyrfalcon     

RedPhoenix122: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.


Too bad the stairs have gone.

19 Jan 2013 07:45 PM
namegoeshere     
You've got to build bypasses.

19 Jan 2013 07:50 PM
jehovahs witness protection     
They did this to cut down on tornado threats.

19 Jan 2013 07:51 PM
BalugaJoe     

Molavian: simplicimus: RedPhoenix122: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.

Hitchhiker Guide's reference?

Go up a few more posts, too.


Behind a locked door with a sign that says "Beware of Tiger"

19 Jan 2013 07:53 PM
ComaToast     
It's a good business model. This will build a steady base of repeat customers. Duh!

19 Jan 2013 07:58 PM
Feral_and_Preposterous     

fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?


50 at most?

Melodramatic much?

19 Jan 2013 07:59 PM
SpdrJay     
They read the plans upside-down.

19 Jan 2013 08:04 PM
barc0001     

gameshowhost: fusillade762: simplicimus: "
It's a beautification project.


Oh, there will be a PROJECT after this is complete, believe that. $5 says it makes the current mobile park look like a wealthy suburb on the hillside by comparison once the "chronically homeless" have been using it for a couple of years.

19 Jan 2013 08:05 PM
DarthBart     

gameshowhost: fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

 
It's a beautification project.


The only thing that will beautify North Laurel is something in the 10-15kt range. Maybe arrange it so the fallout lands in Dundalk, hon.

19 Jan 2013 08:06 PM
OptimusHime     
Probably not the worst story about homeless to be associated with the area...

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19 Jan 2013 08:06 PM
Canned Tamales     

Feral_and_Preposterous: fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

50 at most?

Melodramatic much?


FROM THE ARTICLE: The county Housing Commission acquired the land at the 5.5-acre mobile home park in September from Atapco Properties, and plans to build between 33 and 50 one-room apartments for the chronically homeless.

The efficiency style apartments will house one person each and will include space for a fold out couch and a desk that will serve as a dresser. The apartments also will also have a small kitchenette and bathroom.


Illiterate Dumbass, much?

Also from the article: The land, valued at $1.6 million, was given to the Housing Commission by Atapco in exchange for an adjustment to its MIHU (Moderate Income Housing Unit) requirements for the Howard Square Development on Route 1, according to Tom Carbo, executive director of the Housing Commission.

So, they are also getting to build LESS "moderate income" housing on their other project. Meaning more homes for the affluent, more homes for the chronically homeless, and LESS homes for average working people. Dump the homeless where the working poor(or at least, non-homeless poor) used to live, get rid of the working poor and welfare cases any way you can, and build new shiat for everyone else so you can keep hiding the problems.

Sounds about right.

19 Jan 2013 08:07 PM
gameshowhost     
"The meeting became tense at times, as residents yelled at county officials demanding to know why the community was not notified about the project before the land was acquired in September."

LOOK. We're giving you the incentive to own your own property. Why do you hate America?

19 Jan 2013 08:07 PM
Kevin72    [TotalFark]  
Subby: Howard County is one county. Try "county's plan". You can use counties' plan if it was a plan shared by a group of two or more counties.
Love,
Kevin.

That said, it was a terribly stupid and wrongheaded plan and deserves to be mocked on FARK. Well done, good find, Subby.

19 Jan 2013 08:10 PM
Loren     
In other words, the mobile home park was given to them as a bribe to get what else the developer wanted.

19 Jan 2013 08:10 PM
EvilEgg    [TotalFark]  

barc0001: gameshowhost: fusillade762: simplicimus: "
It's a beautification project.

Oh, there will be a PROJECT after this is complete, believe that. $5 says it makes the current mobile park look like a wealthy suburb on the hillside by comparison once the "chronically homeless" have been using it for a couple of years.


Yes, there is generally an underlying cause for chronic homelessness. Mental illness, drug addiction, or both. Upstanding hardworking people may find themselves homeless, but rarely is that chronic.

19 Jan 2013 08:10 PM
JWideman     

Feral_and_Preposterous: fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

50 at most?

Melodramatic much?


Not RTFA much?

19 Jan 2013 08:12 PM
Jimmysolson     
Nice touch, the closing of the park on Nov.15 just before the holidays.

19 Jan 2013 08:25 PM
Huggermugger     
I live in Maryland and have been involved in local politics regarding 'affordable' housing, and I can assure you that rich people shriek and scream just as much about not having been informed in advance about proposed projects.

Of course, the difference is that the rich ones get listened to by local officials, since they remind everyone how much they pay in property taxes. The thing that rich people who own property hate more than anything, whatsoever, is having poor people living anywhere nearby; even five miles away makes them nervous.

However, I like the idea of this type of housing for the homeless, I just wish that there was much, much more of it available. And there's nothing wrong, per se, with trailer parks, as long as they're maintained above hovel standards.

/used to live in Laurel
//it's the armpit of the DC Metro area
///well, one of them

19 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
gameshowhost     

Jimmysolson: Nice touch, the closing of the park on Nov.15 just before the holidays.


I see a great opportunity to reenact The Passion Of The Christ, in protest.

19 Jan 2013 08:29 PM
KimNorth     
Well to be fair those were fake families they kick out of the trailer park, just like thier fake teeth.

19 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
Feral_and_Preposterous     

Canned Tamales: Feral_and_Preposterous: fusillade762: simplicimus:


I am assuming that the county was not lying about: "Carbo assured residents that the project is in the "early stages," and that the county will provide adequate relocation assistance to Beechcrest residents."

I do realize believing the government is probably a bad idea, but if they actually do provide adequate assistance AND create spots for up to 50 more people to live, then it's a gain and not a loss.

19 Jan 2013 08:35 PM
KimNorth     

Canned Tamales: Feral_and_Preposterous: fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

50 at most?

Melodramatic much?

FROM THE ARTICLE: The county Housing Commission acquired the land at the 5.5-acre mobile home park in September from Atapco Properties, and plans to build between 33 and 50 one-room apartments for the chronically homeless.

The efficiency style apartments will house one person each and will include space for a fold out couch and a desk that will serve as a dresser. The apartments also will also have a small kitchenette and bathroom.

Illiterate Dumbass, much?

Also from the article: The land, valued at $1.6 million, was given to the Housing Commission by Atapco in exchange for an adjustment to its MIHU (Moderate Income Housing Unit) requirements for the Howard Square Development on Route 1, according to Tom Carbo, executive director of the Housing Commission.

So, they are also getting to build LESS "moderate income" housing on their other project. Meaning more homes for the affluent, more homes for the chronically homeless, and LESS homes for average working people. Dump the homeless where the working poor(or at least, non-homeless poor) used to live, get rid of the working poor and welfare cases any way you can, and build new shiat for everyone else so you can keep hiding the problems.

Sounds about right.


Yep, tell the middle class and working poor to bend over and suck in.

19 Jan 2013 08:36 PM
EngineerAU     
Aren't mobile homes suppose to be, well, mobile?

19 Jan 2013 08:39 PM
phrawgh     
Everyone biatches about our 'do nothing' politicians and government. Here, critics, here, at least somebody is trying to so something. You have to start somewhere.

19 Jan 2013 08:41 PM
simplicimus     

EngineerAU: Aren't mobile homes suppose to be, well, mobile?


Yeah, but costly to move.

19 Jan 2013 08:43 PM
ExcaliburPrime111     
There are some facts missing, or maybe I just don't know obvious things:

1. Do the trailer park people currently living on the site of the newly proposed apartment project own their trailers? Do they rent the trailers? Do they have long-term contracts with the owners of that land regarding their residence at the site?

2. If plans go ahead to build the new low-income housing, when would that start and what assistance, if any, is given to the current occupants?

This plan is probably a good idea to reduce homelessness that is being blown out of proportion, but the county needs to do a better job in communicating their plans so as not to upset anyone.

19 Jan 2013 08:45 PM
Worldwalker     

fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?


Note that they mentioned the apartments will be owned by a religious group, too.

So they're evicting 90+ people, handing the land over to a religious group, and paying said group to house 33-50 people. Kinda makes you go hmmmmm....

19 Jan 2013 08:47 PM
LavenderWolf     
"Mobile home" parks are just about the one place I'll have very little sympathy for this kind of thing.

The city legally acquired the property, and it is theirs to do with as they please, supposing they don't break any laws or contracts involved.

The "homes" there are clearly a bunch of shiatholes. Yes, let's fight for our right to keep our mobile homes in this shiathole, nevermind that we can hire someone to move it (individual homes) fairly cheap.

Also, nevermind that while the property is valued at 1.6M it will likely cost at least half of that to clean up after the disgusting mess left by the tenants. Two pictures in the article, and I guarantee that they're the only two that were photogenic enough, and they both show squalid living conditions.

The tenants are also getting compensation of some kind - which they do not in any sense deserve. Since when do people get paid to leave their rental property? All a landowner has to do is not renew leases, and tell at-will renters to GTFO in 30 days or less. You don't get compensation when a private landlord doesn't renew your lease, why the hell should this be any different?

Also note that each of the 1 bedroom apartments will be larger than any of the mobile "homes" in this park (At least, unless they're building micro-apartments, which is highly doubtful). 33-50 apartments, each bigger than any of the 38 mobile "homes" in the park.

19 Jan 2013 08:50 PM
smitty04     
The chronically homeless will always be living on the streets, it is a mental issue.
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The government pays for his apartment but he chooses to live in the streets.

19 Jan 2013 08:55 PM
LavenderWolf     

ExcaliburPrime111: There are some facts missing, or maybe I just don't know obvious things:

1. Do the trailer park people currently living on the site of the newly proposed apartment project own their trailers? Do they rent the trailers? Do they have long-term contracts with the owners of that land regarding their residence at the site?

2. If plans go ahead to build the new low-income housing, when would that start and what assistance, if any, is given to the current occupants?

This plan is probably a good idea to reduce homelessness that is being blown out of proportion, but the county needs to do a better job in communicating their plans so as not to upset anyone.


1. Mobile homes are usually owned by the occupant, on rented land. Standard rental laws apply to that land. Usually they are on a month-to-month rent/lease agreement, but by-the-season rates are somewhat common, but usually in actual vacation trailer parks, not "We live here all year" trailer parks.

2. The current occupants will be receiving a "compensation" of some kind (which the article does not specify, it may not yet be decided on, considering they have until NOV 15th to move). Not that they have any legal basis to demand any such thing. Assuming that, since there is such advanced notice (Still over 9 months until they are kicked out) that they're simply not renewing leases.


/I have a great deal of disgust at trailer parks.
//If I could ever find one where it's obvious that the people inside care about their surroundings, that might change.

19 Jan 2013 08:56 PM
JWideman     

Feral_and_Preposterous: Canned Tamales: Feral_and_Preposterous: fusillade762: simplicimus:

I am assuming that the county was not lying about: "Carbo assured residents that the project is in the "early stages," and that the county will provide adequate relocation assistance to Beechcrest residents."

I do realize believing the government is probably a bad idea, but if they actually do provide adequate assistance AND create spots for up to 50 more people to live, then it's a gain and not a loss.


I'm going to take a wild guess and say the "assistance" will be a bus ticket to the next county. As for the apartment complex... it will never get built. The land will be sold yet again to a developer.

19 Jan 2013 09:02 PM
phrawgh     

smitty04: The chronically homeless will always be living on the streets, it is a mental issue their choice.


/ftfy

19 Jan 2013 09:08 PM
jtown     

BalugaJoe: Molavian: simplicimus: RedPhoenix122: Residents living in and around North Laurel's Beechcrest Mobile Home Park lashed out at Howard County officials Thursday, saying they were not properly notified of the county's plans to build an apartment complex for the chronically homeless.

There's no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at the local planning department.

Hitchhiker Guide's reference?

Go up a few more posts, too.

Behind a locked door with a sign that says "Beware of Tiger"


Go sit in the corner, facing the wall.

19 Jan 2013 09:14 PM
Stoker     
A thieving land grab if I ever saw one.

19 Jan 2013 09:16 PM
Another Government Employee     
$5 says the financing for the replacement housing "runs into difficulty" just as soon as the land is cleared.

19 Jan 2013 09:21 PM
Rik01    [TotalFark]  
My city, during it's period of rapid growth some years ago, bought out a small mobile home park consisting of about 10 units. Nestled in the woods off the main highway, it was a comfortable little place surrounded by wild woods and had been there for decades. No frills. The main road into the place was dirt. No clubhouse, no rec center and the majority of the units used wells for water.

It was comfortably kept by the residents, most of which had lived there for years. They weren't happy about having to relocate, but no one really gave a shiat about maybe 20 people. Not when the land values in the area quadrupled nearly over night.

The land three miles east of them had been sold and developed into a mall, a strip plaza, a Walmart, Sam's, a couple of very high end lawyers offices, an exclusive community and a high end 'retirement' home.

Basically, these folks were toast.

Over two years, the park emptied out, until finially there was one solitary mobile home there and one day, it was gone.

That was about three years ago. The place is still undeveloped, especially since the housing bubble burst. All that's there now are the cement pads and capped well heads with weeds taking over the previously small, nicely kept lawns.

The only winner was the previous owner of the land.

It had been a nice little place. Comfortable, unlike the major mobile home parks in the area with mandatory park groomed lawns, paved roads, rec centers, club houses and rules upon rules to follow.

Actually, I kind of miss it.

Decades ago, my city passed laws concerning mobile homes. You could no longer buy an acre of land and put one in place. You had to have a minimum of 5 acres -- unless you were building a mobile home park. Then you could cram as many in as possible.
But, back then, an acre of land was about $5000. Today an undeveloped acre starts at about $80,000.

19 Jan 2013 09:25 PM
Zombie Butler     

Worldwalker: fusillade762: simplicimus: "...plans to build between 33 and 50"
Good to see they've worked out the details.

Also from TFA:

About 90 residents attended Thursday's meeting

So they're going to relocate at least 90 people (possibly many more) to house 50 (at most)?

Note that they mentioned the apartments will be owned by a religious group, too.

So they're evicting 90+ people, handing the land over to a religious group, and paying said group to house 33-50 people. Kinda makes you go hmmmmm....


Dear Gods in heaven missed that part. Sick and sad.

19 Jan 2013 09:27 PM
smitty04     
It happens everywhere.

MANCHESTER, KY- When a Florida company said in 2009 it planned to build a factory in Clay County and hire 1,400 people, it seemed almost too good to be true.
The city bought a $900,000 site for the factory and incurred fees for engineering and other work, but the company didn't come.

Now, the city is being sued for $500,000 in unpaid bills for work companies did at the site, and is still paying for the land, which sits largely empty, eroding and, at this point, unneeded

19 Jan 2013 09:36 PM
CasperImproved     
"We are the Howard County Housing Commission, we provide affordable housing," Carbo said. "We don't make people homeless."

How sad is it when the local government states these things.... and everyone knows better?

19 Jan 2013 09:42 PM
PsiChick     

phrawgh: smitty04: The chronically homeless will always be living on the streets, it is a mental issue their choice.

/ftfy


Erm, they never actually  chose to have the voices in their heads telling them it's a great idea to wander off and look for the Lost Orb of Phantasia.

19 Jan 2013 09:53 PM
phrawgh     

PsiChick: phrawgh: smitty04: The chronically homeless will always be living on the streets, it is a mental issue their choice.

/ftfy

Erm, they never actually  chose to have the voices in their heads telling them it's a great idea to wander off and look for the Lost Orb of Phantasia.


If you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

19 Jan 2013 09:54 PM
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