And it's nobody's business but the Russians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCxCRI 2Qv6U

To love is to suffer...

To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

Now you've done it. Listen... you hear that? Thats the sound of 800 comments coming, debating the role of each individual nation on both sides of the conflict. And none of them right.

"Those cannot be your only shoes. What am I saying? It's Russia. People probably come from miles around just to get their picture taken in those. "

nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

They were the ones who saved us from the Nazi.

Or perhaps Hitler was trying to save us from Stalin!

Did ya ever think of that, history?? Huh?

Krymson Tyde: And it's nobody's business but the Russians.

*shakes tiny fist*

Eine zweite Chance!  Vorwärts nach Stalingrad!  Marschieren!!

Man, I bet that is an ugly city today. Completely destroyed in WWII and rebuilt in the Soviet 'style'.

nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.



/nyet-nyet Soviet

Ow! That was my feelings!: Man, I bet that is an ugly city today. Completely destroyed in WWII and rebuilt in the Soviet 'style'.

Russia has nice looking cities?

/I mean they have some nice individual buildings
//Kiev is nice enough I guess

Slaxl: nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

Now you've done it. Listen... you hear that? Thats the sound of 800 comments coming, debating the role of each individual nation on both sides of the conflict. And none of them right.

kinda like The Stigg and ducks.

Zombie DJ: "Those cannot be your only shoes. What am I saying? It's Russia. People probably come from miles around just to get their picture taken in those. "

Thanks for that, Sterling.

Better tell Mr. Hilter.

/not much fun in Stalingrad, no.

ha-ha-guy: Ow! That was my feelings!: Man, I bet that is an ugly city today. Completely destroyed in WWII and rebuilt in the Soviet 'style'.

Russia has nice looking cities?

/I mean they have some nice individual buildings
//Kiev is nice enough I guess


Never been, but I doubt it. Kiev is in the Ukraine.  Accidently refered to a Ukrainenian(sp) girl as Russian once, oh boy did she get pissed.

Well, Istanbul was once Constantinople...

Stop changing city names Russia! It gets confusing when I'm making plans to never visit you.

nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

Without the Soviets? Easy.  Stalin was incredibly incompetent in matters of strategy and his pruges of the his officer corps left him with a nigh-incompetent fighting force at the beginning of the war.   Without Russia?  No chance.  The landmass and population Mother Russia was a great black hole that sucked in the entire Wehrmacht and bogged it down, and Old Man Winter in all its Russian glory was the executioner.

brandied: Well, Istanbul was once Constantinople...

Link

Ow! That was my feelings!: Man, I bet that is an ugly city today. Completely destroyed in WWII and rebuilt in the Soviet 'style'.

Brutalism everywhere.

Just in case the Germans try to invade again.

Why'd they change it? I can't say.

Anybody mention that even old New York was once New Amsterdam?

/maybe they liked it better that way.

pop quiz, what's 1+1+4?

What?  No "Istanbul not Constantinople" references yet?

You're failing, Fark.

snark

HenryFnord: pop quiz, what's 1+1+4?

It's 5 according to the AP style manual and that's the story I am sticking to.

d23: What?  No "Istanbul not Constantinople" references yet?

You're failing, Fark.

snark

Did you miss the very first thing typed in this thread?

80% of the boys born in 1923 were gone at wars end. Wow, that is unbelievable.

Krymson Tyde: And it's nobody's business but the Russians.

My favorite version

Lionel Mandrake: d23: What?  No "Istanbul not Constantinople" references yet?

You're failing, Fark.

snark

Did you miss the very first thing typed in this thread?

did you miss the word "snark?"

d23: HenryFnord: pop quiz, what's 1+1+4?

It's 5 according to the AP style manual and that's the story I am sticking to.

Given that the Battle of Stalingrad was fought between July 42 and Feb 43, where does 9 May come in as anything other than an additional day?

Ow! That was my feelings!: brandied: Well, Istanbul was once Constantinople...


Link

Link

"Lenin was better"

/meh

HenryFnord: pop quiz, what's 1+1+4?

I guess I didn't grasp that May 9 Victory Day and the battle commemoration day were not the same day.

/subby, owning it

Ow! That was my feelings!: Man, I bet that is an ugly city today. Completely destroyed in WWII and rebuilt in the Soviet 'style'.

No, city builds YOU.

Ow! That was my feelings!: Never been, but I doubt it. Kiev is in the Ukraine.  Accidently refered to a Ukrainenian(sp) girl as Russian once, oh boy did she get pissed.

It was Soviet though and had its post war rebuilding done by the Soviets though.

Whoops! I was meant to be in the previous comment.

Slaxl: nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

Now you've done it. Listen... you hear that? Thats the sound of 800 comments coming, debating the role of each individual nation on both sides of the conflict. And none of them right.

If it wasn't for Luxemborg...

St. Petersburg (no, not the one in Florida) is still part of surrounded by Leningrad oblast.

Only the Mongols are allowed to successfully invade Russia in winter. Everyone else can fark right off.

AbiNormal: [0363a8f.netsolhost.com image 600x450]

russian female soldiers versus female idf troops.

battlefield: bathtub full of honey

weapon of choice:

Germany never had a chance to winn WWII, even without the USSR.  No matter what, by Aug 1945 the US/UK have nuclear weapons.

All2morrowsparTs: Slaxl: nekom: To be fair, it was a pretty damned epic battle.  Hard to imagine an allied victory in WW2 without the Soviets.

Now you've done it. Listen... you hear that? Thats the sound of 800 comments coming, debating the role of each individual nation on both sides of the conflict. And none of them right.

If it wasn't for Luxemborg...

The Nukaluk tribe in the remote highlands of Papua-New Guinea were vital to the Allies victory. They ate a lot of Japanese pilots. Sure, they ate some Americans and Australians too. But they ate more Japanese, and without that effort, the Japanese would own San Francisco.

d23: Lionel Mandrake: d23: What?  No "Istanbul not Constantinople" references yet?

You're failing, Fark.

snark

Did you miss the very first thing typed in this thread?

did you miss the word "snark?"

You need to work on your snark-foo.

I was at the war memorial in Stalingrad and some guy asked me to take his photo in front of it. He was a grizzly old Russian. i guess he was a soldier or conscript. Anyhow, he was in the frame but kind of blurry so I asked him to take one step back. As soon as he did, some old commissar appeared and shot him.

But it was a hell of a great photo.

CygnusDarius: AbiNormal: [0363a8f.netsolhost.com image 600x450]

russian female soldiers versus female idf troops.

battlefield: bathtub full of honey

weapon of choice:  My penis

ikonoqlast: Germany never had a chance to winn WWII, even without the USSR.  No matter what, by Aug 1945 the US/UK have nuclear weapons.

But without the Russians taking up the majority of Germany's attention, and therefore industrial capacity, maybe the Germans have nuclear weapons sooner.

Eh, just call it Kingstown already.

This is not Kiev
This is not Leningrad
This is STALINGRAD, it carries the name of the Boss.

I'm just shocked the Russians haven't changed Moscow to Putingrad yet.